Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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Thank you and be safe!

 

[whateve]

Thank you for giving it so much of your attention, whateve. Always very much appreciated!! I'm starting to believe that it is my mission to help rid my local world of the fakes!!

You're welcome! I'm sorry you're having such rotten luck lately!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi again everyone! This is my most recent find & hope it is better than the last one

It is just under 8 inches tall by 11.5 wide x just over 4 inches deep. USA.

Hope your day is wonderful and many thanks in advance!

I have concerns again! The details of the bag look fine, although it looks like one of the rivets is silver (it might have been replaced.) Any creed that starts with a J always needs special attention. The J4D prefix has been seen on a lot of fakes. In my files, the D plant was still using the old format creed with "made in the United States" across the bottom in 1994. Your creed has the too long underline on "No.", the enlarged "o" in "No.", the font we've seen on other fakes, and the letters in the words "United States" are squished.

ETA: I think your pocket might be too long.

I agree with Whateve. And again, we can't emphasize too much how important it is to use extreme caution with any bags with J month prefixes and year codes from the mid to late 1990s. There were 2 main creeds used but only one style of serial number, with blocky numbers and often with some overstamping lines.

Like Whateve pointed out, the underlining under the small "o" should also be much shorter. While a few plants later in the decade started using a longer underline, the earlier serials usually had a much shorter one, almost a dot rather than a line. This is what a real J4D- creed and serial should look like (I know it's hard to read the year code but it IS a "4") and there's another one with an H month code that's a bit clearer:

 

[fuzzymummy]

The second character in a creed is always a number, so if you see a letter there, the creed isn't authentic. The zero in this case, stands for the year 2000. It's explained in the Salearea guides.

I think I bought a Sonoma or something a year or so ago that had the letter and number transposed. It was ruled authentic by the forum.

 

[whateve]

I think I bought a Sonoma or something a year or so ago that had the letter and number transposed. It was ruled authentic by the forum.

Yes, I forgot to mention there were exceptions, just like with everything associated with Coach.

 

[maramd]

Please authenticate the poor "scrappy" bag! Thank you.

Coach Purse - No. 020-4141 - Scraps and Scratches
Item 371245104953
Seller jonesg975gail
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371245104953?_trksid=p2059210.m2748.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[whateve]

Please authenticate the poor "scrappy" bag! Thank you.

Coach Purse - No. 020-4141 - Scraps and Scratches
Item 371245104953
Seller jonesg975gail
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371245104953?_trksid=p2059210.m2748.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

lol! The seller didn't want to make it attractive, did she? I thought it would be in pieces with that title! It is authentic.

 

[Two.time.bags]

Anyone know where I can get a Bally authenticated, please?

 

[maramd]

lol! The seller didn't want to make it attractive, did she? I thought it would be in pieces with that title! It is authentic.

Thank you! Massive rehab project!

 

[maramd]

While we are on the J creed...is there enough info in the photos to authenticate or authentifake this bag?

Coach Brown Leather Purse Shoulder Handbag Cross Hand Bag
Item 221671944967
Seller dana20774
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221671944967?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Same seller has this one too:
Item 221671949707
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221671949707?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Thanks.

 

[MyPandaxox]

I need help authenticating this one, please.

Coach signature Light blue Tote Hobo


Item # 301480610685
Seller:Xproject88


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-COACH-S...685?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4631a50b7d




The reason I'm so afraid is that she lives in TX and receipt is from Jacksonville, FL...and quite fancy. Lately, I've seen many fakes mixed in with real ones. I hope I'm wrong but something isn't sitting right. Please help.
Thank you so much.

 

[whateve]

I need help authenticating this one, please.

Coach signature Light blue Tote Hobo


Item # 301480610685
Seller:Xproject88


http://www.ebay.com/itm/NWT-COACH-S...685?pt=US_CSA_WH_Handbags&hash=item4631a50b7d




The reason I'm so afraid is that she lives in TX and receipt is from Jacksonville, FL...and quite fancy. Lately, I've seen many fakes mixed in with real ones. I hope I'm wrong but something isn't sitting right. Please help.
Thank you so much.

Coach's headquarters are in Jacksonville Florida. Nearly anything you order from Coach to be shipped to you will have the Jacksonville letterhead and look exactly like that one. In looking at the seller's listings, it appears that she orders most of her items directly from Coach factory online. I don't see anything wrong with the bag in the listing or her other items.

 

[MyPandaxox]

Coach's headquarters are in Jacksonville Florida. Nearly anything you order from Coach to be shipped to you will have the Jacksonville letterhead and look exactly like that one. In looking at the seller's listings, it appears that she orders most of her items directly from Coach factory online. I don't see anything wrong with the bag in the listing or her other items.

Thank you so much. You're the best!

 

[Hyacinth]

While we are on the J creed...is there enough info in the photos to authenticate or authentifake this bag?

Coach Brown Leather Purse Shoulder Handbag Cross Hand Bag
Item 221671944967
Seller dana20774
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221671944967?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Same seller has this one too:
Item 221671949707
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221671949707?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Thanks.

Both the Beaumont Satchel and the Soho Bleeker Bag seem ok.

 

[Flushpuppy]

Before I wash my new Slim Tote, I thought I'd try it out on this brown bag I picked up a few years ago online a few years ago, before I knew there even were fakes. I was reading here last night about the No on some creeds and that on fake ones the o can be too big. I happened to look at the creed on this bag, and got worried. Is it fake? This was taken while wet, FYI.

 

[Hyacinth]

Before I wash my new Slim Tote, I thought I'd try it out on this brown bag I picked up a few years ago online a few years ago, before I knew there even were fakes. I was reading here last night about the No on some creeds and that on fake ones the o can be too big. I happened to look at the creed on this bag, and got worried. Is it fake? This was taken while wet, FYI.

I'm sorry, but it's fake. The large O is just one problem. A much bigger one is that the plant code M is valid in that month and year only for Costa Rica, not the US. Also, that particular font used for the serial number wasn't used in 1994, and during that time period the Coach name in the cartouche on top of the creed stamp should be centered, not 2/3rds of the way up in the space.

Seeing the rest of the bag might show one or two other problem areas but even if there were no others, the invalid plant code would be enough to show it was counterfeit.

ETA - The details of what little I can see of the bag don't look right either. The panel right above the inside zipper pocket should be smooth leather, not suede. And style 4152 is a Bantam Bag which is a mini backpack with a snap tab across the top, like the pictures below.