Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[whateve]

Hi Everyone

This fake came up up in one my searches, kindly verify before I report. TIA!

Item: COACH SONOMA flap brown NATURAL GRAIN LEATHER shoulder BAG MADE IN USA 4919
Listing number: 131744320689
Seller: lovelyfabulous
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-SONOM...-shoulder-BAG-MADE-IN-USA-4919-/131744320689?

Wrong lining, wrong creed wording. I don't have any records of the R plant being used in the US, and not in 1996. The first use I have of it is Thailand in 2000.

 

[LondonUK]

It looks a bit odd but it might just be overstuffed. There is nothing to prove it is fake. Personally I wouldn't buy from a seller who doesn't post clear creed pictures. I understand that you only get 5 pictures on etsy but one of them should be a creed picture.

That is what irritates me the most, I've been looking at so many coach handbags and hardly any have the creed stamp or a partial you can't read. People research before listing stuff, the creed is mandatory when listing a bag. I'm so tired of emailing asking for a creed photo.

 

[Sonoma]

Hi Everyone

This fake came up up in one my searches, kindly verify before I report. TIA!

Item: COACH SONOMA flap brown NATURAL GRAIN LEATHER shoulder BAG MADE IN USA 4919
Listing number: 131744320689
Seller: lovelyfabulous
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-SONOM...-shoulder-BAG-MADE-IN-USA-4919-/131744320689?

Wrong lining, wrong creed wording. I don't have any records of the R plant being used in the US, and not in 1996. The first use I have of it is Thailand in 2000.

Thanks whateve, I'll report it.

 

[Hyacinth]

Looks authentic to me

Welcome to tPF.

Please read the first post in this thread for the guidelines for posting. Most of the authentication posts at tPF have specific rules for each brand and it's important to read them before posting in the threads. There's usually a requirement of how many posts someone has to have made before posting authentication opinions, here in the Coach forum it's 500 posts.

That's why the title of this thread says "AUTHENTICATE This COACH *Read 1st Page BEFORE posting"

Thanks!

 

[peachpi]

Hello,

Requesting input on authenticity for this bag. Pictures posted on pinterest, since an error message was received in trying to upload here. Thanks.

https://www.pinterest.com/PeachPiVintage/vintage-coach-xl-duffle/

https://www.pinterest.com/PeachPiVintage/vintage-coach-xl-duffle/

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello,

Requesting input on authenticity for this bag. Pictures posted on pinterest, since an error message was received in trying to upload here. Thanks.

https://www.pinterest.com/PeachPiVintage/vintage-coach-xl-duffle/

https://www.pinterest.com/PeachPiVintage/vintage-coach-xl-duffle/

DAMN, I HATE sites that require a membership login just to see their pages.

Sorry, that bag is counterfeit. I'm seeing problems both inside and outside, and those details don't match other 9085s with the same plant, month and year codes.

As always, more opinions are welcome.

 

[whateve]

Hello,

Requesting input on authenticity for this bag. Pictures posted on pinterest, since an error message was received in trying to upload here. Thanks.

https://www.pinterest.com/PeachPiVintage/vintage-coach-xl-duffle/

https://www.pinterest.com/PeachPiVintage/vintage-coach-xl-duffle/

DAMN, I HATE sites that require a membership login just to see their pages.

Sorry, that bag is counterfeit. I'm seeing problems both inside and outside, and those details don't match other 9085s with the same plant, month and year codes.

As always, more opinions are welcome.

I agree it's fake.

 

[BlkMedusaHair]

Item: ~COACH~ EUC!! Black w/Nickel HW "Rambler" Flap Shoulder Bag
Listing number:281955348544
Seller: mcatin
Link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/COACH-EUC-Black-w-Nickel-HW-Rambler-Flap-Shoulder-Bag-/281955348544?nav=SEARCH

Item: COACH Purse # J0C-9061 Black Ramblers Legacy Flap Bag ~ VINTAGE
Listing number:252306035306
Seller: bonny0904
Link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Purse-J...acy-Flap-Bag-VINTAGE-/252306035306?nav=SEARCH

Please authenticate these bags before I bid! Thank you!

May I please have one of you look these bags? Thanks, Hyancinth, whateve, and BeenBurned!

 

[whateve]

Item: ~COACH~ EUC!! Black w/Nickel HW "Rambler" Flap Shoulder Bag
Listing number:281955348544
Seller: mcatin
Link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/COACH-EUC-Black-w-Nickel-HW-Rambler-Flap-Shoulder-Bag-/281955348544?nav=SEARCH

Item: COACH Purse # J0C-9061 Black Ramblers Legacy Flap Bag ~ VINTAGE
Listing number:252306035306
Seller: bonny0904
Link: http://m.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Purse-J...acy-Flap-Bag-VINTAGE-/252306035306?nav=SEARCH

Please authenticate these bags before I bid! Thank you!

May I please have one of you look these bags? Thanks, Hyancinth, whateve, and BeenBurned!

Sorry I missed your request. They're fine.

 

[peachpi]

Hello,
Is this an authentic Coach Duffle? Any reply is appreciated.

Item: Coach 9085
Listing number: 151998567161
Seller: downtown-ville
Link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Comments: This was on our watch list, and it happens to have the same No. as the other purse that auth/info. was requested

Thank you

 

[Catbird9]

DAMN, I HATE sites that require a membership login just to see their pages.

Sorry, that bag is counterfeit. I'm seeing problems both inside and outside, and those details don't match other 9085s with the same plant, month and year codes.

As always, more opinions are welcome.

I agree, Pinterest stinks.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello,
Is this an authentic Coach Duffle? Any reply is appreciated.

Item: Coach 9085
Listing number: 151998567161
Seller: downtown-ville
Link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Comments: This was on our watch list, and it happens to have the same No. as the other purse that auth/info. was requested

Thank you

Yes, the one in listing 151998567161 is authentic.

 

[peachpi]

DAMN, I HATE sites that require a membership login just to see their pages.

Sorry, that bag is counterfeit. I'm seeing problems both inside and outside, and those details don't match other 9085s with the same plant, month and year codes.

As always, more opinions are welcome.

Thank you, any elaboration on the problems and details that don't match? Thanks for your time. Hopefully, I will be able to link pictures directly on this website soon.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you, any elaboration on the problems and details that don't match? Thanks for your time. Hopefully, I will be able to link pictures directly on this website soon.

The serial number stamp used by the D plant from 1994 to the end of the decade was very distinctive and was never changed for almost 5 years (the CREED stamp did change in 1995 to the newer wording but the original SERIAL stamp assigned to them in early 1994 stayed the same until the end of 1998 when it was replaced or supplemented with serial stamp mechanisms inherited from closed or deactivated plants)

The green bag's creed and serial stamps are fake, the tan bag's stamps are genuine. Compare the details and shapes of the digits and logo VERY carefully. There's also a difference in one detail on the outside of the bag - Coach always kept details like seaming and trim identical among bags of the same style. An area of the picture of the green bag's base is enlarged to show details, the quality of the stitching itself is poor compared to the real one but that's not the only problem.

And yes, such small details DO make a huge difference in authenticity.

 

[BeenBurned]

So this is interesting, I found a station type bag on etsy but dodgy creed photo. I asked the seller for a photo which she said she would send a few min ago and now the bag is pulled.

Etsy
Hollister54
https://www.etsy.com/listing/261826956/90s-authentic-coach-small-briefcase-in-a

I can't tell anything from those photos. The listing was sold, not pulled.

Can an etsy seller mark a bag as sold? I just find it odd the bag was listed for ages and as soon as I ask for a better photo of the creed 3 minutes later it's sold? Do you recognize that bag at at as it looks like a type of station bag but it's not. The listing says it was made in the 90's but I've never seen one.

I don't think an etsy seller can mark an item as sold. They can deactivate it but I don't think it would say sold.

I can't tell for sure if there are problems. The shape of the tab might be a little off and the handle might have a little higher drop than it should. Station bags were made in the 90s. I don't know what you mean by your comment. The last picture is of a Dooney for some reason.

It looks a bit odd but it might just be overstuffed. There is nothing to prove it is fake. Personally I wouldn't buy from a seller who doesn't post clear creed pictures. I understand that you only get 5 pictures on etsy but one of them should be a creed picture.

While I agree that the pictures of the bag in the listing don't show enough to prove (or disprove) authenticity, I agree that something is sketchy about the seller (and her creeds). Although it could be the angle the picture was taken, the creed doesn't look like there are enough lines of text for what it should say.

And additional listings from hollister54 also lack pictures and details necessary for both buyers to make educated buying decisions but also for the seller to prove her honesty. It almost looks as though she makes an effort to purposely make the creeds illegible.

Personally, I'd prefer to buy from a seller who shows what needs to be shown in the first place.