Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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#13,186
Morrigan3 said:
Hi, this is my first post, so I hope I'm putting this in the correct place. I had my ebay account flagged for listing a vintage 9035 brown, USA made, bag. I had it listed as Ergo Hobo brown large shopper.
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Yes, it was asked about already, go back a page:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...e-before-posting-889527-879.html#post29894425

It's DEFINITELY fake. Even though the listing seems to have been removed, what I can see just in the 2 photos are more than enough to prove it, and pictures of the rest of the bag would probably add more proof. I didn't respond to the original post but there was no need to.

All Coaches, even older styles, are highly faked and really should be authenticated by experts before being bought or sold. We're happy to do that here at no charge as long as the poster follows forum rules - no mention of your Ebay ID or store, and no links back to your listings. Post the photos on their own and we'll tell you if they're genuine or not. It's much better than risking having your selling privileges resatricted by Ebay.
 
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#13,187
Lucylu29 said:
Ergo shopper
List #: 322019296924
Seller: 3morrigan3
https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/322019296924

I am a bit new here and just started reading this thread after I purchased this bag this evening on eBay. Now I'm a bit worried because the serial number in my he picture the seller sent me has three dashes and I'm not sure if that happens on authentic bags. Also I read the link about deciphering the creed and saw that the prefix D8J is commonly used on fakes. I appreciate any answers you can give me.
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Lucylu29 said:
Oops, forgot to attach the picture of the creed and now am having problems uploading it.
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BeenBurned said:
The seller's pictures aren't adequate for authentication.

Where did you see the creed and serial number. The seller has 6 pictures of one side of the bag, 3 pictures of the other and no pictures showing the inside, the creed, the hardware or any other parts!
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Lucylu29 said:
here is the creed for the Ergo shopper.
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whateve said:
That creed is fake. Ask the seller to cancel the sale.
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Hmm. Sorry Morrigan3. It's not letting me include you in the multiquote. Unfortunately, the listing you posted was for a counterfeit Coach bag and ebay removed the listing.

It's a good idea to verify authenticity of any item that you didn't personally purchase directly from an authorized retailer, i.e., Macy's, Bloomingdales, Coach, etc.

ETA: And yet again, Hyacinth's fingers are faster than mine.
 
#13,188
Hyacinth said:
Yes, it was asked about already, go back a page:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...e-before-posting-889527-879.html#post29894425

It's DEFINITELY fake. Even though the listing seems to have been removed, what I can see just in the 2 photos are more than enough to prove it, and pictures of the rest of the bag would probably add more proof. I didn't respond to the original post but there was no need to.

All Coaches, even older styles, are highly faked and really should be authenticated by experts before being bought or sold. We're happy to do that here at no charge as long as the poster follows forum rules - no mention of your Ebay ID or store, and no links back to your listings. Post the photos on their own and we'll tell you if they're genuine or not. It's much better than risking having your selling privileges resatricted by Ebay.
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Thank you for responding. And the previous post was from the buyer who flagged me. I didn't post my Ebay ID, but she did, I don't even mind. i just want to know what specifically is a *flag* to you on this .I initially send her the wrong creed, one for a large black messenger bag I restored. She had already purchased the item, and then questioned it, I apologized and sent her the correct creed. I refunded her as soon as she requested it today, not because I believe it to be fake, but to re-list it. I've seen many Creed #'s with dashes, so all of those are fakes?
I've read so much conflicting information on deciphering the codes, is there an up to date info source on USA made Vintage coach serial numbers?
 
#13,189
Morrigan3 said:
Thank you for responding. And the previous post was from the buyer who flagged me. I didn't post my Ebay ID, but she did, I don't even mind. i just want to know what specifically is a *flag* to you on this .I initially send her the wrong creed, one for a large black messenger bag I restored. She had already purchased the item, and then questioned it, I apologized and sent her the correct creed. I refunded her as soon as she requested it today, not because I believe it to be fake, but to re-list it. I've seen many Creed #'s with dashes, so all of those are fakes?
I've read so much conflicting information on deciphering the codes, is there an up to date info source on USA made Vintage coach serial numbers?
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Yes, this is the source we trust: http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Serial-Numbers-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000034886433/g.html
There is a series of guides by the same author.
Your creed is fake for many reasons. It is supposed to have a dash in the middle between the two sets of numbers, and in some cases it is okay to have a dash after "No." but those extra dashes are never okay. The font used in your creed is wrong. The stamping doesn't appear to have been done with the type of equipment Coach used. The digit "J" is in the position to indicate the factory where the bag was produced. However, the J factory wasn't used to make bags.
 
#13,190
whateve said:
Yes, this is the source we trust: http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Serial-Numbers-the-Basic-Facts-/10000000034886433/g.html
There is a series of guides by the same author.
Your creed is fake for many reasons. It is supposed to have a dash in the middle between the two sets of numbers, and in some cases it is okay to have a dash after "No." but those extra dashes are never okay. The font used in your creed is wrong. The stamping doesn't appear to have been done with the type of equipment Coach used. The digit "J" is in the position to indicate the factory where the bag was produced. However, the J factory wasn't used to make bags.
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Thank you. I've read that article several times, guess I need to read it a few more. Is there a published factory listing, based on the letters? I purchased Coach retail in the 90's (for myself) so I'm pretty shocked (and embarrassed) this bag looks so similar to my originals.
I got burned on a newer Patchwork Coach, it's not fun. :(

I'm asking so many questions because I just purchased a large lot of purses at an estate/ moving sale, and did not expect fakes! I've also picked a few up at goodwill and consignment stores.
I don't want to carry or sell fakes! Can I post them on this site, or can you direct me to a quality authentication source?

Thank you for your help.
 
#13,191
Morrigan3 said:
Thank you. I've read that article several times, guess I need to read it a few more. Is there a published factory listing, based on the letters? I purchased Coach retail in the 90's (for myself) so I'm pretty shocked (and embarrassed) this bag looks so similar to my originals.
I got burned on a newer Patchwork Coach, it's not fun. :(

I'm asking so many questions because I just purchased a large lot of purses at an estate/ moving sale, and did not expect fakes! I've also picked a few up at goodwill and consignment stores.
I don't want to carry or sell fakes! Can I post them on this site, or can you direct me to a quality authentication source?

Thank you for your help.
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there is not a published list of the factory codes. That was discussed on here recently. We don't like to provide too much information that would help counterfeiters make better fakes.

You are welcome to post pictures here of your items for authentication before you list them. You aren't allowed to post links to your listings. The first post of this thread tells what we need.
 
#13,192
whateve said:
there is not a published list of the factory codes. That was discussed on here recently. We don't like to provide too much information that would help counterfeiters make better fakes.

You are welcome to post pictures here of your items for authentication before you list them. You aren't allowed to post links to your listings. The first post of this thread tells what we need.
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No links! I'm not listing anything without prior authentications, blessings & praises. :)
Ok, the deterring counterfeiters thing makes sense, couldn't figure out why the serial numbers were so cryptic!
 
#13,196
Hello Ladies,

Please authenicate these items:

Item: COACH N0. J9V-9170 CROSS BODY NATURAL GLOVE TANNED COWHIDE BLACK HANDBAG
Listing #: 322017243059
Seller: laststopdore
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/322017243059?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: Not a great creed picture! Is this a Coach Classic Pouch?

Item: COACH Vintage Brown Leather Legacy Crescent Hobo Shoulder Bag #9718 w Box USA EC
Listing #: 151968083438
Seller: suburabancoutre2009
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vinta...083438?hash=item236200edee:g:xLUAAOSwnLdWrR0U
Comments: Missing turnlock fastplate. Please provide item's name.

Item: Vintage Precreed Bonnie Cashin Double Sided Courier Coach Purse Black Leather Ba
Listing #: 111895186981
Seller: oaktreevintage
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111895186981?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: Please provide item's name

Item: vtg Coach Bonnie Cashin Courier Messenger Bag Tan 8920 pre-creed tongue flap NYC
Listing #: 141822376325
Seller: joeirrelevant
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141822376325?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: Please provide item's name

Thanks in advance! :flowers:
 
#13,197
LadyEdwards said:
Hello Ladies,

Please authenicate these items:

Item: COACH N0. J9V-9170 CROSS BODY NATURAL GLOVE TANNED COWHIDE BLACK HANDBAG
Listing #: 322017243059
Seller: laststopdore
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/322017243059?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: Not a great creed picture! Is this a Coach Classic Pouch?

Item: COACH Vintage Brown Leather Legacy Crescent Hobo Shoulder Bag #9718 w Box USA EC
Listing #: 151968083438
Seller: suburabancoutre2009
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vinta...083438?hash=item236200edee:g:xLUAAOSwnLdWrR0U
Comments: Missing turnlock fastplate. Please provide item's name.

Item: Vintage Precreed Bonnie Cashin Double Sided Courier Coach Purse Black Leather Ba
Listing #: 111895186981
Seller: oaktreevintage
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111895186981?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: Please provide item's name

Item: vtg Coach Bonnie Cashin Courier Messenger Bag Tan 8920 pre-creed tongue flap NYC
Listing #: 141822376325
Seller: joeirrelevant
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141822376325?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Comments: Please provide item's name

Thanks in advance! :flowers:
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All are fine. The first one has a V Mexico creed if anyone wants to add that to their files. Yes, it is a classic pouch.

Second one: the seller is correct about the name, Legacy Crescent.
Third one: I have no idea what the official name is, but double courier sounds like a good guess.
Last one is a large courier pouch. Seller has correct style number.
 
#13,198
whateve said:
All are fine. The first one has a V Mexico creed if anyone wants to add that to their files. Yes, it is a classic pouch.

Second one: the seller is correct about the name, Legacy Crescent.
Third one: I have no idea what the official name is, but double courier sounds like a good guess.
Last one is a large courier pouch. Seller has correct style number.
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Thank you whateve, especially for the confirmation on the plant code on number one!
 
#13,199
Lucylu29 said:
Ergo shopper
List #: 322019296924
Seller: 3morrigan3
https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/322019296924

I am a bit new here and just started reading this thread after I purchased this bag this evening on eBay. Now I'm a bit worried because the serial number in my he picture the seller sent me has three dashes and I'm not sure if that happens on authentic bags. Also I read the link about deciphering the creed and saw that the prefix D8J is commonly used on fakes. I appreciate any answers you can give me.
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post any pics you may have of the bag:D
 
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