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BeenBurned said:
Hmm. It's interesting that the seller provided a "copy and paste" of part of a guide written by someone whose guides tend to have inaccurate, incomplete and obsolete information.

That guide ( http://www.ebay.com/gds/Authentic-v...-Coach-Creed-Serial-/10000000011701556/g.html ) also refers to Coach "Leatherwear," a spelling that would only be on fakes.

Methinks the seller of the bag on etsy, TheAftCabin should find a more accurate guide to quote!

That said, I think the bag in the listing is authentic. Other opinions are welcome.
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I agree, that "guide" by MRHARLEY747 is loaded with major mistakes and incorrect dates and used to be even WORSE. The original one from a few years back had almost all the dates off by at least 7 to 10 years. And the "writer" pulled the same cwap so many other self-anointed experts have done - Copied & Pasted a bunch of incorrect information from an earlier guide that I found posted at another website!

So not only did he, she or it steal the contents and claim it as their own (like a few other plagarizing thieves I could mention), but never even bothered to do a stick of basic research which would have shown what a steaming pile of horse dung that guide and the one they copied it from really are. That hot mess should be removed from Ebay and blasted back into electrons. :pout:
 
#12,964
whateve said:
I believe the Willis was introduced in 1991, so there shouldn't be any with NYC creeds. The bag in this listing looks authentic. Creeds in 1994 and 1995, and sometimes even 1996, have the original creed wording and leatherware cartouche, as different factories transitioned to the new creeds at different times. Most early 1994 creeds will have the old wording. Any that don't should be looked at by an expert.
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The Willis from what I've seen was actually introduced some time in mid-1993. It doesn't appear at all in the Spring 1993 catalogs, and it's listed as "New" in the Fall 1993 catalog..
 
#12,966
Hyacinth said:
The Willis from what I've seen was actually introduced some time in mid-1993. It doesn't appear at all in the Spring 1993 catalogs, and it's listed as "New" in the Fall 1993 catalog..
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Thanks. I'll add that to my files. I was going off a flyer that said the dowel was introduced in 1991, showing a picture of a Willis.
 
#12,967
LondonUK said:
Okay, as an example I found this one:

Item 291688798372
Seller thompsonpickett
Vintage coach Willis bag


http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-COA...798372?hash=item43ea01d8a4:g:~WkAAOSwl9BWHne7


The creed has a 1994 creed by the stamp says coach leatherware? The only 1994. I have seen don't have the leatheware on them. Was the willis made prior to 1994. Would there ever be any with a made in New York city creed?
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My guess would be the C plant in early 1994 based on the creed fonts, but that's JUST a guess.
 
#12,970
Hyacinth said:
I agree, that "guide" by MRHARLEY747 is loaded with major mistakes and incorrect dates and used to be even WORSE. The original one from a few years back had almost all the dates off by at least 7 to 10 years. And the "writer" pulled the same cwap so many other self-anointed experts have done - Copied & Pasted a bunch of incorrect information from an earlier guide that I found posted at another website!

So not only did he, she or it steal the contents and claim it as their own (like a few other plagarizing thieves I could mention), but never even bothered to do a stick of basic research which would have shown what a steaming pile of horse dung that guide and the one they copied it from really are. That hot mess should be removed from Ebay and blasted back into electrons. :pout:
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Yet if you look at mrharley747 guide page, it shows that 48 of 49 people found it helpful. Way back when you could vote, I must have been the only voter who did NOT find it helpful!


  • Authentic vs Fake: History of the Coach Creed-Serial #
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  • 48 of 49 people found this guide helpful

 
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Once again, I don't know what I would do without all of you wonderful authenticators. I'm so grateful to have this resource.

Could you please tell me if this key chain is authentic or not? Thank you in advance.
 

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Good evening all. I hope that your weekends were good to you.

My youngest came up from the city on Friday to announce that in order to help her save for med school, "we" needed to start paring down on my "collection" and that she would magnanimously be more than happy to sell things off. She even reported that during her last few visits that she had managed to take inventory of the 200+ items she found in the workshop and in the bins in the storage loft and thought that she'd begin with the "MADE IN NEW YORK CITY USA" pieces. She was even "willing" to let me set aside all the pre-creed item. How generous of her. But maybe it is time for some of those treasures to be returned to circulation and put back to good use.

I told her that I didn't recall the provenance of many of the bags in that category as they were obtained from any number of sources. So now I've been assigned to get them authenticated for her, though she's providing the photos to assist in this effort. I've three items I'd like expert input on tonight.

Here's the first one. I believe that it was called a Flight Bag, but don't have the style number written down anywhere. I think that the color was called mocha though. It is 15" wide x 9" tall x 6" deep with 8-1/2 drop straps.

Thanks once again for sharing your knowledge and expertise.
 

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Onto the second one.

Staying with the same theme, I think that this is a style 9706 Skinny Flight Bag, but I could be mistaken. The color appears to be tabac. It measures 12-3/4" wide x 8-1/2" high x 3-3/4" deep and has 5-1/2" drop handles. I need to find the removable strap which I recall was a slender non-adjustable on like on the early Station, Convertible Clutch, and Pocket Purses.

Please let me know if my identification is accurate and whether the bag passes muster.

Thank you.
 

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#12,975
BeenBurned said:
Yet if you look at mrharley747 guide page, it shows that 48 of 49 people found it helpful. Way back when you could vote, I must have been the only voter who did NOT find it helpful!


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So there are at least 48 other gullible people out there. And 1500 voters who found the Salearea Guides helpful. Shows there are still some intelligent people left on Ebay. :graucho:
 
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