Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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Thank you and be safe!

 

[catthecurious]

yes, fake.

thanks, whateve, reporting.

 

[whateve]

Item: Coach Black Checkbook
Seller: None(found it while helping a friend clear out a house).
Comments: I am weary of this because of the lining. The stitching also looks a bit crude. The checkbook is removable.

Thank you in advance!

I have several concerns. The style is similar to a few Coach styles, 4730 and 4859, and there may be others that I don't know about. (Later of 4730 versions don't have snap visible on exterior.) The flap on yours hangs over more than half of the top, unlike either of these styles, and seems an odd shape, too rounded.

I can't remember ever seeing a Fiocchi snap on a Coach item.

Neither of the styles I'm comparing to have a pen loop on the main wallet. Coach often put the pen loop on the checkbook cover instead. It bothers me that the pen loop isn't centered.

Your wallet has the leather cut across to the end even with the top of the zipper. The authentic wallets I've seen with a zipper like this don't have a break in the leather at this place. To me, this is a major problem. It is sloppy design, not something I would expect. I've attached a picture of an authentic zipper. Is there a zipper stop at the other end of the zipper?

Every style 4730 I've seen has no lining, just leather. Later styles had fabric lining. I've never seen the lining in your wallet. It has no logo, which is highly unusual for Coach. Again, a major problem.

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach Black Checkbook
Seller: None(found it while helping a friend clear out a house).
Comments: I am weary of this because of the lining. The stitching also looks a bit crude. The checkbook is removable.

Thank you in advance!

I have several concerns. The style is similar to a few Coach styles, 4730 and 4859, and there may be others that I don't know about. (Later of 4730 versions don't have snap visible on exterior.) The flap on yours hangs over more than half of the top, unlike either of these styles, and seems an odd shape, too rounded.

I can't remember ever seeing a Fiocchi snap on a Coach item.

Neither of the styles I'm comparing to have a pen loop on the main wallet. Coach often put the pen loop on the checkbook cover instead. It bothers me that the pen loop isn't centered.

Your wallet has the leather cut across to the end even with the top of the zipper. The authentic wallets I've seen with a zipper like this don't have a break in the leather at this place. To me, this is a major problem. It is sloppy design, not something I would expect. I've attached a picture of an authentic zipper. Is there a zipper stop at the other end of the zipper?

Every style 4730 I've seen has no lining, just leather. Later styles had fabric lining. I've never seen the lining in your wallet. It has no logo, which is highly unusual for Coach. Again, a major problem.

The wallet is fake.

 

[JOODLZ]

Could someone please authenticate this Coach bag?
From a local thrift…not GW for once!
Approx. 6.75"w x 5.75"h x 1.25"d. Strap 23.75 to rings.
1998 Abbie Zip #9017, yes? My Abbie family is growing…this makes 7.
Thanks in advance, as always!

 

[Hyacinth]

Could someone please authenticate this Coach bag?
From a local thrift…not GW for once!
Approx. 6.75"w x 5.75"h x 1.25"d. Strap 23.75 to rings.
1998 Abbie Zip #9017, yes? My Abbie family is growing…this makes 7.
Thanks in advance, as always!

Looks OK to me!

 

[BlkMedusaHair]

Item: Coach Black Vachetta Leather Madeline Large Tote Handbag M0773-11554, Excellent
Listing number: 111905173679
Seller: marcku
Link:http://m.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Black-V...0773-11554-Excellent-/111905173679?nav=SEARCH

My next silver and black coach that I'm eyeing on. Is this ok to bid? Thank you all for the help on authentication!

 

[missbaltimore]

Hello everyone-- Could someone please authenticate these two items for me? Both from my local thrift store.

Coach Legacy Small Pocket Zip 9136
9" long x 7" tall x 2.5" deep

 

[missbaltimore]

And the second:

Coach Soho Buckle Front Clutch or Wallet.
7 3/4" long x 4 1/4" tall.
Comment: There is no embossed or stamped Coach lozenge on the inside corner like I am used to seeing on wallets but the inner seam tag would suggest MFF so I'm guessing it is alright?

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach Black Vachetta Leather Madeline Large Tote Handbag M0773-11554, Excellent
Listing number: 111905173679
Seller: marcku
Link:http://m.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Black-V...0773-11554-Excellent-/111905173679?nav=SEARCH

My next silver and black coach that I'm eyeing on. Is this ok to bid? Thank you all for the help on authentication!

I don't see any problems but I can't read the creed.

Hello everyone-- Could someone please authenticate these two items for me? Both from my local thrust store.

Coach Legacy Small Pocket Zip 9136
9" long x 7" tall x 2.5" deep

Authentic.

And the second:

Coach Soho Buckle Front Clutch or Wallet.
7 3/4" long x 4 1/4" tall.
Comment: There is no embossed or stamped Coach lozenge on the inside corner like I am used to seeing on wallets but the inner seam tag would suggest MFF so I'm guessing it is alright?

The wallet looks good. It might have been a checkbook wallet that lost its insert.

 

[hitt]

The wallet is fake.

DING DING DING! I knew it. I had my suspicions but that lining was too weird and it felt crude. Thank you(whateve) for the additional valuable photos/info.

Ah. There was mention about Coach not having Fiocchi snaps and I swear I've seen it on at least one of the wallets I have purchased(second hand).

Now I am second guessing this wallet!

 

[whateve]

DING DING DING! I knew it. I had my suspicions but that lining was too weird and it felt crude. Thank you(whateve) for the additional valuable photos/info.

Ah. There was mention about Coach not having Fiocchi snaps and I swear I've seen it on at least one of the wallets I have purchased(second hand).

Now I am second guessing this wallet!

Again, the lining is a big red flag. Bonnie Cashin era wallets might have random linings like that, but this isn't one of those. The zippered compartment at the end is weird. That's not the way Coach would have done it. I'd have to say it is fake.

ETA: Coach wallets don't come with hangtags.

 

[BlkMedusaHair]

I don't see any problems but I can't read the creed.

Oh, ok. I just asked the seller for a pic. Thanks for catching that for me!

 

[Hyacinth]

DING DING DING! I knew it. I had my suspicions but that lining was too weird and it felt crude. Thank you(whateve) for the additional valuable photos/info.

Ah. There was mention about Coach not having Fiocchi snaps and I swear I've seen it on at least one of the wallets I have purchased(second hand).

Now I am second guessing this wallet!

Fiocchi snaps on Coach wallets do not mean they're fake. I have wallets from both the Madison and Gramercy lines - the originals, not the recent styles - that have Fiocchi snaps. They are or were a major Italian manufacturer of snaps although their primary product is ammunition. I've seen their snaps in quite a few brands, especially Italian-made styles. And I'm sure that, just like YKK zippers, real and fake versions are found in both real and fake items.

"At the beginning of 20th century, Fiocchi introduced a product diversification and successfully entered a new field of activity -snaps- made using scraps left after cartridge production. This brought to the creation of Fiocchi Snaps in 1903. Snaps business assumed an important role to counterbalance the trend of the ammunition market and at the end of 80's was so attractive that, upon Fiocchi's decision to focus on ammunition as its core business, the snaps factory was taken over by the European leader in this field..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiocchi_Munizioni#Products

https://www.google.com/search?q=fio...2&ved=0ahUKEwjH9-qEgYXLAhWIwiYKHfEvDIkQsAQIGw
(interesting juxtaposition of products, eh?)

HITT, what I haven't seen before is that lining in your wallet. Without knowing, or hearing from someone else here, that it's been used in genuine Coach wallets, I can't give an opinion. Your wallet is a generic style that could have been made by anyone at any time. Waiting for more opinions...

ETA - I'll accept Whateve's feelings on this one.

 

[whateve]

Fiocchi snaps on Coach wallets do not mean they're fake. I have wallets from both the Madison and Gramercy lines - the originals, not the recent styles - that have Fiocchi snaps. They're a major Italian manufacturer of fasteners and their hardware is found in quite a few brands, especially Italian-made styles. And I'm sure that, just like YKK zippers, real and fake versions are found in both real and fake items.

HITT, what I haven't seen before is that lining in your wallet. Without knowing, or hearing from someone else here, that it's been used in genuine Coach wallets, I can't give an opinion. Your wallet is a generic style that could have been made by anyone at any time. Waiting for more opinions...

ETA - I'll accept Whateve's feelings on this one.

Besides the lining, the placement of that zipped pocket makes no sense. Coach would put a kisslock at the end. If they wanted to have a zipped pocket there, the zipper would have been on the back, not at the end.

 

[Hyacinth]

Besides the lining, the placement of that zipped pocket makes no sense. Coach would put a kisslock at the end. If they wanted to have a zipped pocket there, the zipper would have been on the back, not at the end.

True. I thought at first it might have been a man's wallet, but have never seen that kind of design in any Coach catalog.