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Hello all, please help me to authenticate this Compact Pouch, thanks!

Item: Compact Pouch 9620 in Mahogany
Site: Etsy
Seller: Bowsandsparrow

Just checking the creed with is the last photo.
I know some of the new ones have a dash after the "No" and this looks like one of those but just want to be sure.
Also "C1D" prefix, when was this produced please? Thx
Authentic, made in 2001.
 
Can someone please authenticate this bag for me? I think it’s the Greenwich satchel. It was given to me by a friend’s mom.
It measures approx 12” wide x 11” tall x 4” deep.

Thanks!
 

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Hello COACH experts! I would love help authenticating this bag, and if it is authentic, can you tell what year (ish)? I purchased it from an eBay seller (wish I had checked here first)! The leather is beautiful, heavy, and has certainly feels high quality but the "creed" number is different from others I've seen (LC64124) and when I posted on the Coach reddit, they sent me here ;). Many thanks in advance for your help!

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Hello COACH experts! I would love help authenticating this bag, and if it is authentic, can you tell what year (ish)? I purchased it from an eBay seller (wish I had checked here first)! The leather is beautiful, heavy, and has certainly feels high quality but the "creed" number is different from others I've seen (LC64124) and when I posted on the Coach reddit, they sent me here ;). Many thanks in advance for your help!

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Please post the seller ID and link to the listing as required per the yellow highlighted post at the top of each page as well as post 1 on page one of the thread.

The bag is fake.

Again, please post link to the listing and ebay seller ID.

ETA:
I looked up the Reddit post and have a couple of comments. I don't use Reddit and I'm not sure how it works and often can't tell who has knowledge and even identifying posters who is the OP vs. those who answer:

1. Dazzling-Ad9436 (who seems to be the OP and the person asking the question here) responded with a couple of fallacies:
CHAT GPT is AI and like Entrupy which uses AI to authenticate (and has a crappy record of accuracy), they are wrong.

“LC” codes often appear on Legacy Collection bags or special edition leather goods. These were often handcrafted and sold in limited runs.
Correct info: NEVER appear on Legacy Collection or special edition items.

• The creed text mentions it was handcrafted in the United States of completely natural glove-tanned cowhide, which is a hallmark of Coach’s high-end leather lines.
Correct info: Since the mid-90s, Coach has also been making bags in China and other countries. Although the text on the creed of the bag in question is on genuine bags, it is also on the vast majority of fakes.

• The style is consistent with Legacy or Classic Coach Leather Satchels or Totes from the early to mid-2000s.
Correct info: Although the style of the bag is similar to styles of bags made in 2003-2007, the creed is NOT consistent with the creeds on genuine bags from that era.
EDIT #2:

If you do a search on ebay for style 9550, you can see some examples of the actual style your bag is copying. 9550 is from 2004. Compare the differences.


Is this the listing?
Seller john49770

If so, the purchase was on March 26 and you have 30 days from receipt to file a claim for return.

The seller will have two choices:
1. Issue a full refund without return and you can dispose of bag
2. Pay for and give you a return shipping label. You get a full refund upon receipt of the return back to the seller
 
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Please post the seller ID and link to the listing as required per the yellow highlighted post at the top of each page as well as post 1 on page one of the thread.

The bag is fake.

Again, please post link to the listing and ebay seller ID.
Thanks for the response BeenBurned....bummer, though :(

Apologies for not posting the ebay link -- I thought since the purchase was in the past it wouldn't work but it looks like it's still up: https://www.ebay.com/itm/176936878579 (seller ID john49770). I should note that I've since cleaned and conditioned the leather, hence the difference in the look between my photos and the sellers.
 
This is the listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/126998634400?itmmeta=01JR9G0C5FXXAMQPQRJBZ7NCTM&hash=item1d91b55fa0:g:JFAAAeSw4Qhn2Fk0&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAAAwFkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1fZTRt/n9nw+cu89VXV4aP88gsRdOYYbxSpm7rcoD9GrQJI+8pfKvNj+DVyav3KmkhxCTGLLPRls/TPBAkGACTC2dv7MP0HmpIMd+ttxc6vv/G2yNGjPX5JxHSpCI3lIxEk46Wdb26wGKQUjQb3pnn1FSl45ImLR5m1QhznnQKC2dlQj5b7XXTqrOP5mI+/3EzxeLnSj9ypVuEv+ifdLVTRjELtZPO0jZfcOXja8rPg2w==|tkp:Bk9SR-7CgbDCZQ

Open a return for not as described, indicating counterfeit. The letter N is part of the problem. There are some exceptions in which there are valid mistakes when a N was used by a Coach factory in error, but this isn't one of them. The bigger problem is the R. That is supposed to represent the plant where the bag was made. The code R was not used to represent a plant in the US although the creed wording says the bag was made in the US. R was used for a plant in Thailand.

Hopefully the seller will do the right thing and accept the return, giving you a full refund and paying for return shipping. If she doesn't, you can escalate the case to ebay after enough time has passed. It should be decided in your favor.

Thanks! I did submit a return & it's winging its way back to the seller.
 
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Thanks for the response BeenBurned....bummer, though :(

Apologies for not posting the ebay link -- I thought since the purchase was in the past it wouldn't work but it looks like it's still up: https://www.ebay.com/itm/176936878579 (seller ID john49770). I should note that I've since cleaned and conditioned the leather, hence the difference in the look between my photos and the sellers.
Yes. I edited after finding the listing.

I still recommend a claim. You WILL win and get a refund. Any amount is too much for a fake.

I’m sorry you were fooled. But I’m glad you got the suggestion to post here.
 
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Hello, hello! If I could trouble someone to take a look at these:

Item: Vintage 1970s Coach Bonnie Cashin Thin Skinny Tote Brown Leather With Kiss Lock
Listing number: 405593288121
Seller and site where listed: ebay - Kaitiesriches
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/405593288121
Comments: I see this seller has some negative feedback, although I didn't see any quality issues with this particular bag. (But let me know if I missed something!)

Item: Vtg 60s Coach Bonnie Cashin Skinny Slim Tote Kisslock Coin British Tan Leather
Listing number: 166868959383
Seller and site where listed: ebay - Momma and Papa Bear Reselling Agora
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/166868959383
Comments: --

Item: Vintage 1970s Coach Bonnie Cashin Thin Skinny Tote Brown Leather With Kiss Lock
Listing number: 335881412302
Seller and site where listed: ebay - tmengleka
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/335881412302
Comments: I know color is hard to tell from listings, but do we think this is brown? Or maybe black?

Thanks in advance for your time!
 
Please and thank you for taking a look. I think this is the larger (than a Musette), a Carrier Bag. Style 9800. I have a musette bag in hand so when I get this one, I can compare. Seller's measurements:
Full Length:16"
Height:10"
Width:4.5"
The musette I have has a slip pocket inside, this one has a zip pocket inside. Does that tell you anything useful? Looks to be amazingly great condition, but no strap. I can't tell from the photos and description if it has a back pocket or not.
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/135679067806
Ebay, seller: sixtoedbojangles
Item: Vintage Coach 0205-927 Black Leather Briefcase Shoulder Bag Messenger USA

9800 Black Front.webp9800 Black Creed.webp9800 Carrier bag catalog picture 1988.webp
 
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