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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#9,181
BeenBurned said:
item 161822064477
Seller pushkaus
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...ass-Hangtag-/161822064477?hash=item25ad58bf5d

Comments: Do we even know that the coin purse is Coach? THe only thing with "Coach" is the fake hangtag! Plus, with a silver chain and keyring and fake gold/brass hangtag.....

ETA: Note that she uses "authentic" for the few genuine items and omits the word on others.

She also has this fake:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gen...t-Condition-/151801686976?hash=item235815ebc0

and although she doesn't show the creed, the invalid prefix of J4K is telling:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-COA...AG-j4k-9812-/161735878609?hash=item25a835a7d1
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The genuine Coin Purses don't have the Coach name anywhere on them either, although a few may have the country of origin stamped on the bottom. There's nothing to say it's fake besides having an obviously fake hangtag. The only provable fake of that style I've ever seen had the hole for the hangtag chain on the right side instead of the left.

The other two are definitely fake and are listed in Part 1 and/or Part 2 of the Daria48 Fake Numbers list at Ebay as well as my lists here at tPF:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-Part-2-/10000000179041909/g.html
 
#9,182
Zealous said:
Thank you, Hyacinth!

Do you (or anyone) know what style it is? My searches have come up with inconsistencies.
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And if you're search has come up with inconsistencies, maybe you're searching Google using the last 4 numbers? As I've explained in several of the Salearea Guides, that doesn't work with vintage bags.
 
#9,183
BeenBurned said:
item 161822064477
Seller pushkaus
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...ass-Hangtag-/161822064477?hash=item25ad58bf5d

Comments: Do we even know that the coin purse is Coach? THe only thing with "Coach" is the fake hangtag! Plus, with a silver chain and keyring and fake gold/brass hangtag.....

ETA: Note that she uses "authentic" for the few genuine items and omits the word on others.

She also has this fake:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gen...t-Condition-/151801686976?hash=item235815ebc0

and although she doesn't show the creed, the invalid prefix of J4K is telling:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-COA...AG-j4k-9812-/161735878609?hash=item25a835a7d1
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Unfortunately for us, Coach made some of these city bag fobs without any Coach markings other than the leather hangtag. I have two that were both bought on ebay, one of which has a logo and a "made in" stamp and the other which doesn't, yet I believe they are both authentic. Both of mine have identical chains and rings. The one without markings is an unusual color that Coach made for a short time and has nickel hardware which furthers my belief it is authentic, and I believe it is older than the one with the "made in China" stamp.

For some reason the link didn't work. Here it is again, in case it works this time: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161822064477?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=161822064477&_rdc=1

The hangtag is definitely fake. The chain and keyring aren't right for this style. As for the leather case, the eyelet ring looks thicker than those on the cases I own.

I think it is reportable for these reasons. Here is a picture showing what the chain and ring should look like.
 

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#9,184
Hyacinth said:
And if you're search has come up with inconsistencies, maybe you're searching Google using the last 4 numbers? As I've explained in several of the Salearea Guides, that doesn't work with vintage bags.
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Yes, your work in the Salearea guides has been a wealth of info for me that I reference quite often. Actually, that's where I read about the 8-digit, no-hyphen serial number & then had hope for my bag's authenticity. :)

With this particular bag, I found a few online but they had been labeled with generic or incorrect style names.

Thanks for your response & good evening!
 
#9,185
BeenBurned said:
item 161822064477
Seller pushkaus
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...ass-Hangtag-/161822064477?hash=item25ad58bf5d

Comments: Do we even know that the coin purse is Coach? THe only thing with "Coach" is the fake hangtag! Plus, with a silver chain and keyring and fake gold/brass hangtag.....

ETA: Note that she uses "authentic" for the few genuine items and omits the word on others.

She also has this fake:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gen...t-Condition-/151801686976?hash=item235815ebc0

and although she doesn't show the creed, the invalid prefix of J4K is telling:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-COA...AG-j4k-9812-/161735878609?hash=item25a835a7d1
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Hyacinth said:
The genuine Coin Purses don't have the Coach name anywhere on them either, although a few may have the country of origin stamped on the bottom. There's nothing to say it's fake besides having an obviously fake hangtag. The only provable fake of that style I've ever seen had the hole for the hangtag chain on the right side instead of the left.

The other two are definitely fake and are listed in Part 1 and/or Part 2 of the Daria48 Fake Numbers list at Ebay as well as my lists here at tPF:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-Part-2-/10000000179041909/g.html
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whateve said:
Unfortunately for us, Coach made some of these city bag fobs without any Coach markings other than the leather hangtag. I have two that were both bought on ebay, one of which has a logo and a "made in" stamp and the other which doesn't, yet I believe they are both authentic. Both of mine have identical chains and rings. The one without markings is an unusual color that Coach made for a short time and has nickel hardware which furthers my belief it is authentic, and I believe it is older than the one with the "made in China" stamp.

For some reason the link didn't work. Here it is again, in case it works this time: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161822064477?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=161822064477&_rdc=1

The hangtag is definitely fake. The chain and keyring aren't right for this style. As for the leather case, the eyelet ring looks thicker than those on the cases I own.

I think it is reportable for these reasons. Here is a picture showing what the chain and ring should look like.
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Thanks, ladies. I've also had a couple of those items over the years and I know they had minimal or no markings.

I guess my question should have been phrased, "is there anything you see that proves it to be fake?" But I guess the answer to that is also no.
 
#9,186
BeenBurned said:
Thanks, ladies. I've also had a couple of those items over the years and I know they had minimal or no markings.

I guess my question should have been phrased, "is there anything you see that proves it to be fake?" But I guess the answer to that is also no.
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I think you can still report it. As long as there is one thing in the listing that isn't authentic (the hangtag), the seller isn't allowed to sell it as it is.

Remember that seller who made those Frankenstein creations with parts of genuine Coach items? I reported those and explained that they were never sold as they were being represented in the listings, and they were removed.
 
#9,187
_purseaddict_ said:
Hello. Could you please help me to check if this is genuine stewardess bag before I buy? Thank you so much for your time.

Item Name: Brown Coach Stewardess
Item Number: 161818174278
Seller ID: t.roll76
LINK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-COA...Satchel-Bag-/161818174278?hash=item25ad1d6346

Item Name: Black Coach Stewardess
Item Number: 221879476852
Seller ID: melissasgracie
LINK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Authe...25-USA-Made-/221879476852?hash=item33a90c2274


Item Name: Red Coach Stewardess
Item Number: 201422834486
Seller ID: bgaines3d24
LINK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-Coach-...ag-F2p-9718-/201422834486?hash=item2ee5bc8b36
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Hyacinth said:
1- I'm NOT comfortable with that creed and serial number.



2, 3, 4, 5, 6- look ok
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_purseaddict_ said:
Thank you Hyacinth. I will skip #3 in that case. #1 bought so wish me luck on bidding #2! [emoji13]
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Hi again. Sorry my last post was wrong. I am now bidding on #1. Really hoping I will be the next owner. May I know around what year bag #1 was made? I would love to sound more knowledgeable when I show the bag
(or brag[emoji13]) to my sisters. Thank you.
 
#9,191
Catbird9 said:
And this one too please:

Item: VINTAGE BONNIE CASHIN ERA COACH 1908 Brown Leather Crossbody Flap USA Purse Bag
Listing: 151804550503
Seller: onemanstreasurestore
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-BON...dd2d22&pid=100167&rk=1&rkt=15&sd=201424176541

Thank you!
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It may be genuine, although I'm not sure of the style, possibly a Convertible Clutch, style 9635. But it absolutely is NOT "CASHIN-ERA"! It was made after 1987, and Cashin ended her connections with Coach in 1974. This one dates from between 1988 and maybe 1990-91. Please don't believe any dates posted in listings by this seller.

I think we've pretty much come to the conclusion that no genuine Cashin-era bags, meaning they would have to have been made no later than 1974, would EVER have creeds with serial numbers, and most likely wouldn't have creed stamps at all.


EDITED TO ADD - seller " onemanstreasurestore " doesn't have a good record for telling real from fake either. I'd recommend looking elsewhere:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...coach-fakes-here-824098-119.html#post27796084

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...coach-fakes-here-824098-120.html#post27797245

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...coach-fakes-here-824098-120.html#post27798452
 
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#9,192
Hyacinth said:
Not easy, also very expensive. And ALWAYS ask here before you bid! A HUGE percentage of bags that are listed as Bonnie Cashin" or "Cashin-era" have absolutely NO connection to Cashin. Many sellers are clueless as to Cashin, her designs, and when their items were actually made, and of course, some sellers deliberately mislead buyers by using Cashin's name for much newer items. I've seen bage made in the last 15 years described as "Cashin" and not just the tribute bags we mentioned. My guess is that maybe only one-fourth, if that, of the bags listed as "Cashin" have ANY connection at all to that designer. For instance, Cashin ended her connection with Coach in 1974, so any bags with a stamped creed and especially with a serial number is NOT a Cashin-Era bag.

There are people here in this thread and at the Vintage Coach Photos and Chat Club in the Clubhouse section of the main Coach forum who can give you a lot of good information on how to collect the Real Thing.
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-clubhouse/vintage-coach-photos-and-chat-857690.html

Bookmark or Save that link, and DON'T get involved with collecting vintage or especially Cashin bags without checking here first. There are misleading ads, fakes, and hidden problems that our vintage specialists like Whateve will be able to point out. And do some research on the subject before you start collecting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Cashin

http://vintagefashionguild.org/label-resource/cashin-bonnie/

http://libapps.libraries.uc.edu/blogs/bonnie-cashin/
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Thanks for very interesting link! After I saw vintage thread, I don't think I can collect 2/3 only - as planned. My plan was max 2/3 of each Vtg from Dooney/Coach/other brand [emoji33]
 
#9,193
Catbird9 said:
Please authenticate:

Item: Vintage EXCELLENT Condition Red Leather COACH Stewardess Cross Body Bag
Listing number:321860110893
Seller: coolaroni
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-EXC...ss-Body-Bag-/321860110893?hash=item4af05b8a2d
Comments: Thanks in advance!
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You seem to have hit the jackpot when it comes to sellers who don't even know what they're selling. :graucho:

It's NOT a Stewardess Bag - not even close. It looks like a Spectator bag style 9795 from around 1987. It's genuine.
 
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