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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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bronzepursie said:
Hi Good afternoon Ladies. I'm wondering if this sellers bags are real, and if so i wonder if He/She is allowed to use the coach pictures from a brochure or ad? They are even putting their name on the pictures from the brochures? Is that ok to do? Thanks, just wondering. Seller is thepurplecocoon on etsy.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/ThePurpleCocoon?ref=nla_listing_details
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That seller's items and her unauthorized use of Coach's catalog pictures were discussed in the past.


In that post, I copied and pasted a section of terms DIRECTLY FROM COACH'S WEBSITE. (The red boldface is my doing to show the pertinent parts.)

They clearly disallow use for commercial purposes and putting one's own watermark on someone else's work is WRONG. (And using them in the listings on an online selling site IS commercial use!)

Terms of Use​

Copyright Information​

Tapestry, Inc. ("Coach") is the owner of the Coach brand. Coach owns www.coach.com ("the Site"). Coach owns or has rights to all of the wallpaper, icons, characters, artwork, images, graphics, music, text, software and other content of the Site (the "Content"), and all HTML, CGI and other code and scripts in any format used to implement the Site (the "Code"). The Content and Code of the Site is protected by copyright. You may not copy, modify, upload, download, transmit, re-publish, display for redistribution to third parties for commercial purposes, or otherwise distribute any Code or Content from the Site without the prior written agreement of Coach. You may not use the Content or Code from the Site for any purpose other than those set forth above. All names, logos and trademarks which appear on the Site are the property of Coach or are used by Coach under license. You may not use any of the foregoing for any purpose without the prior express written permission of Coach. Your failure to comply with these Terms of Use will constitute breach of contract and will violate Coach's copyright, trademark and other proprietary and industrial property rights. You may print in hard copy portions of this website with the sole intent of placing an order with Coach or for keeping store location, hours or phone number information. The use of any such material for any other reason, on any other website, or the modification, distribution, or republication of this material without prior written permission from Coach is strictly prohibited.



EDIT: @bronzepursie - may I ask if someone sent you here to ask about that seller's use of catalog pictures?
 
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BeenBurned said:
That seller's items and her unauthorized use of Coach's catalog pictures were discussed in the past.


In that post, I copied and pasted a section of terms DIRECTLY FROM COACH'S WEBSITE. (The red boldface is my doing to show the pertinent parts.)

They clearly disallow use for commercial purposes and putting one's own watermark on someone else's work is WRONG. (And using them in the listings on an online selling site IS commercial use!)

Terms of Use​

Copyright Information​

Tapestry, Inc. ("Coach") is the owner of the Coach brand. Coach owns www.coach.com ("the Site"). Coach owns or has rights to all of the wallpaper, icons, characters, artwork, images, graphics, music, text, software and other content of the Site (the "Content"), and all HTML, CGI and other code and scripts in any format used to implement the Site (the "Code"). The Content and Code of the Site is protected by copyright. You may not copy, modify, upload, download, transmit, re-publish, display for redistribution to third parties for commercial purposes, or otherwise distribute any Code or Content from the Site without the prior written agreement of Coach. You may not use the Content or Code from the Site for any purpose other than those set forth above. All names, logos and trademarks which appear on the Site are the property of Coach or are used by Coach under license. You may not use any of the foregoing for any purpose without the prior express written permission of Coach. Your failure to comply with these Terms of Use will constitute breach of contract and will violate Coach's copyright, trademark and other proprietary and industrial property rights. You may print in hard copy portions of this website with the sole intent of placing an order with Coach or for keeping store location, hours or phone number information. The use of any such material for any other reason, on any other website, or the modification, distribution, or republication of this material without prior written permission from Coach is strictly prohibited.



EDIT: @bronzepursie - may I ask if someone sent you here to ask about that seller's use of catalog pictures?
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Sure, a friend saw it and mentioned it to me and I thought I'd ask You all your opinions.
 
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Hello everyone!
Thank you in advance for offering this service :smile:

Item: Vtg Coach Janice Legacy #9950 Red Crossbody Bag Made in USA Purse Shoulder
Listing number: 335478287172
Seller and site where listed: chatran, eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/335478287172?epid=1508308094&itmmeta=01J2HCAEEME5ENBQS6AB1GP4WW&hash=item4e1c106b44:g:WNUAAOSwrsVmjU2-&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA4DBypuF3DlsHRcKBM/JaYWlx1JZIV8JCrE43hI49+hQSAudT4CxaKKaFPmTiFoymLN81Qmu7ryKJ0hgSykVBBOGjCvHsB5LTG9dYKhWZ5kSTARIZyAGimxaGgXWk47JK2W31bUFHbdc3mcacC2Zrfgec9qk7UYHw/WxHNNctiQ2nYuYhRYTQlw9kZszs2CDI+gWaQeg7uEgfvvn8cgBiXjko3w0p6c46sxPMGOTz42EO1W3/bLWpP3we1QTcWLuhTge4AL9C0oc7RXROR3bkAtKPmm530Lz30l+s8tY+Qa2B|tkp:BFBMsOeprJRk
Comments: From a preliminary search on this thread I see that this seller has listed both authentic and fake items so it's up to the buyer's due diligence. MY CONCERN IS THE HARDWARE: IT LOOKS LIKE THE COATING IS CHIPPING OFF WHICH DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF IT SHOULD BE SOLID BRASS? AKA THE BUCKLE IN THE FIRST ATTACHED PHOTO, AND THE ZIPPER MECHANISM IN THE SECOND ATTACHED PHOTO (SEE LINK FOR MORE)
 

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Farkvam said:
Hello everyone!
Thank you in advance for offering this service :smile:

Item: Vtg Coach Janice Legacy #9950 Red Crossbody Bag Made in USA Purse Shoulder
Listing number: 335478287172
Seller and site where listed: chatran, eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/335478287172?epid=1508308094&itmmeta=01J2HCAEEME5ENBQS6AB1GP4WW&hash=item4e1c106b44:g:WNUAAOSwrsVmjU2-&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA4DBypuF3DlsHRcKBM/JaYWlx1JZIV8JCrE43hI49+hQSAudT4CxaKKaFPmTiFoymLN81Qmu7ryKJ0hgSykVBBOGjCvHsB5LTG9dYKhWZ5kSTARIZyAGimxaGgXWk47JK2W31bUFHbdc3mcacC2Zrfgec9qk7UYHw/WxHNNctiQ2nYuYhRYTQlw9kZszs2CDI+gWaQeg7uEgfvvn8cgBiXjko3w0p6c46sxPMGOTz42EO1W3/bLWpP3we1QTcWLuhTge4AL9C0oc7RXROR3bkAtKPmm530Lz30l+s8tY+Qa2B|tkp:BFBMsOeprJRk
Comments: From a preliminary search on this thread I see that this seller has listed both authentic and fake items so it's up to the buyer's due diligence. MY CONCERN IS THE HARDWARE: IT LOOKS LIKE THE COATING IS CHIPPING OFF WHICH DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF IT SHOULD BE SOLID BRASS? AKA THE BUCKLE IN THE FIRST ATTACHED PHOTO, AND THE ZIPPER MECHANISM IN THE SECOND ATTACHED PHOTO (SEE LINK FOR MORE)
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The bag is authentic, made in 1994. The hardware isn't solid brass.
 
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BeenBurned said:
The bag is authentic, made in 1994. The hardware isn't solid brass.
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Thank you so much, BeenBurned! I have a Coach from I believe 1996 that appears to have solid brass hardware (it doesn‘t chip, only a type of clear coat chips off to reveal what looks like brass underneath), did it vary from style to style, or only from year to year? Would love to know more.CCEE76AE-81A8-490C-B6B1-616283E3E4D8.jpeg
Edit: here‘s the turnlock on my bag where I can see some kind of coating wearing away. Where the coat has chipped away on the left side of the knob, it‘s lighter underneath and looks like solid brass unlike the dark base metal underneath the shiny coating on the buckle of the Janice. I’m clearly not the expert though, that‘s why I‘m asking you for clarification :smile:
 
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Item: Coach purses
Listing number: N/A
Seller and site where listed: Mercari, @m00chi
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m55264352032?sv=0
Comments: Only 3 pictures available and the creed is not very clear. But I know this style usually goes for a lot more, so trying to decide quickly if I should take the risk. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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saygevance said:
Item: Coach purses
Listing number: N/A
Seller and site where listed: Mercari, @m00chi
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m55264352032?sv=0
Comments: Only 3 pictures available and the creed is not very clear. But I know this style usually goes for a lot more, so trying to decide quickly if I should take the risk. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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It's authentic.
 
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Farkvam said:
Thank you so much, BeenBurned! I have a Coach from I believe 1996 that appears to have solid brass hardware (it doesn‘t chip, only a type of clear coat chips off to reveal what looks like brass underneath), did it vary from style to style, or only from year to year? Would love to know more.View attachment 6031395
Edit: here‘s the turnlock on my bag where I can see some kind of coating wearing away. Where the coat has chipped away on the left side of the knob, it‘s lighter underneath and looks like solid brass unlike the dark base metal underneath the shiny coating on the buckle of the Janice. I’m clearly not the expert though, that‘s why I‘m asking you for clarification :smile:
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They stopped used solid brass hardware on most bags in the 80s. There were a few lines after that that were advertised as having solid brass hardware. When hardware is solid brass, it is super heavy. Large buckles like the ones used on Janice would make the bag really heavy. I think what you are seeing is tarnish rather than base metal showing through.
 
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whateve said:
They stopped used solid brass hardware on most bags in the 80s. There were a few lines after that that were advertised as having solid brass hardware. When hardware is solid brass, it is super heavy. Large buckles like the ones used on Janice would make the bag really heavy. I think what you are seeing is tarnish rather than base metal showing through.
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That's interesting, good to know. Thank you!
 
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