Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

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• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
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[Michelle1x]

8. Soho Handle Bag 4168 in Black, made in United States, #J6H-4158, 10"x8" (approx)
***Faded Creed, hard to photo
9. Soho Small Satchel 4106 in Mahogany, made in United States, #B8C-4106
**Another one with a hard to read creed and impossible to photo because you cannot pull it out of the bag

 

[Hyacinth]

8. Soho Handle Bag 4168 in Black, made in United States, #J6H-4158, 10"x8" (approx)
***Faded Creed, hard to photo
9. Soho Small Satchel 4106 in Mahogany, made in United States, #B8C-4106
**Another one with a hard to read creed and impossible to photo because you cannot pull it out of the bag

The black Soho Handle Bag from 1996 and the mahogany Soho Small Satchel from 1998 are both genuine.

 

[Hyacinth]

6. Monterrey Hobo 4027, made in United States, #1039-232, 12" x 10" laying flat (approx).
***Color = BERRY?, I can find no swatches with this color.
Creed is hard to read with bullseye above second "C" in Coach

7. Soho Duffle Sac (Weekender) 4082, made in United States, #E6H-4082, 17" x 14" laying flat.

Both are genuine.

 

[whateve]

Hello and Happy Holidays,

Im hoping someone can help authenticate this one, thank you.

FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
Item: Coach Vintage Sonoma Drawstring
Listing number:
Seller and site where listed: @love_consign on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/d3fzNH0oNFb
Comments:

It's authentic. I'll be interested to see the rehab on this bag.

 

[whateve]

Hi authenticators and Happy Holidays to you. 2 questions: Is this real? And I notice the seller is using a coach catalog picture, and also has watermarked it with her store name. Is that ok to do that? Thanks! https://www.etsy.com/listing/1564152714/mint-navy-vintage-coach-chrystie-bag?click_key=354e199ee0c3e3142328f9de0c8a416a19623e77%3A1564152714&click_sum=bee0f522&ref=user_profile&cns=1&sts=1


Mint, Navy, Vintage Coach Chrystie Bag 9892 - Etsy

It's authentic. I have no idea if it is legal for her to watermark a picture of a catalog page.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi authenticators and Happy Holidays to you. 2 questions: Is this real? And I notice the seller is using a coach catalog picture, and also has watermarked it with her store name. Is that ok to do that? Thanks! https://www.etsy.com/listing/1564152714/mint-navy-vintage-coach-chrystie-bag?click_key=354e199ee0c3e3142328f9de0c8a416a19623e77%3A1564152714&click_sum=bee0f522&ref=user_profile&cns=1&sts=1


Mint, Navy, Vintage Coach Chrystie Bag 9892 - Etsy

It's authentic. I have no idea if it is legal for her to watermark a picture of a catalog page.

It's an infringement on Coach's intellectual property for ThePurpleCocoon to put her watermark on Coach's copyright catalog images.

Terms Of Use | COACH

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www.coach.com

The following is the specific section regarding their copyrighted information. (The red bold highlighting is mine.)

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Tapestry, Inc. ("Coach") is the owner of the Coach brand. Coach owns www.coach.com ("the Site"). Coach owns or has rights to all of the wallpaper, icons, characters, artwork, images, graphics, music, text, software and other content of the Site (the "Content"), and all HTML, CGI and other code and scripts in any format used to implement the Site (the "Code"). The Content and Code of the Site is protected by copyright. You may not copy, modify, upload, download, transmit, re-publish, display for redistribution to third parties for commercial purposes, or otherwise distribute any Code or Content from the Site without the prior written agreement of Coach. You may not use the Content or Code from the Site for any purpose other than those set forth above. All names, logos and trademarks which appear on the Site are the property of Coach or are used by Coach under license. You may not use any of the foregoing for any purpose without the prior express written permission of Coach. Your failure to comply with these Terms of Use will constitute breach of contract and will violate Coach's copyright, trademark and other proprietary and industrial property rights. You may print in hard copy portions of this website with the sole intent of placing an order with Coach or for keeping store location, hours or phone number information. The use of any such material for any other reason, on any other website, or the modification, distribution, or republication of this material without prior written permission from Coach is strictly prohibited.

 

[BeenBurned]

4, Ergo Mini Zip 9020 in Black, made in United States, #L7D-9020, 9" x 9" (at top) approx
**I know the creed is hard to read, lmk I can take another photo
5. Pocket Ergo 9033 in Lilac, made in United States, #H7N-9033, 12"x11"x3" (approx)

4. Authentic.

5. Purple bag is fake.

 

[Hyacinth]

4, Ergo Mini Zip 9020 in Black, made in United States, #L7D-9020, 9" x 9" (at top) approx
**I know the creed is hard to read, lmk I can take another photo
5. Pocket Ergo 9033 in Lilac, made in United States, #H7N-9033, 12"x11"x3" (approx)

The 9020 Ergo looks good.

I'm uncomfortable with the the H7N-9033 serial with a United States creed, I don't have any examples for comparison in my files for that date and plant combination.
MORE OPINIONS ARE NEEDED

ETA - I see that BeenBurned also noticed a problem with the lilac Ergo.

 

[Michelle1x]

The 9020 Ergo looks good.

I'm uncomfortable with the the H7N-9033 serial with a United States creed, I don't have any examples for comparison in my files for that date and plant combination.
MORE OPINIONS ARE NEEDED

ETA - I see that BeenBurned also noticed a problem with the lilac Ergo.

EATA - Seems strange for an Ergo Pocket Zip to NOT HAVE ANY OUTSIDE POCKETS.

Hey there! Thanks y'all for the authentications - I never thought anybody would get back to me today!!

For the 9033, that has 2 outer pockets on one side only. Maybe it is not obvious from my pictures laying flat. I have a few of that style and the construction of this purple bag is pretty much correct in size and detai. It is a good fake. I didn't like the 2 one-sided fobs, I thought that was weird.
OK that one goes in the fake pile.

 

[whateve]

It's an infringement on Coach's intellectual property for ThePurpleCocoon to put her watermark on Coach's copyright catalog images.

Terms Of Use | COACH

COACH Terms Of Use - Use Of Site And Content, Product Information, And More.

www.coach.com

The following is the specific section regarding their copyrighted information. (The red bold highlighting is mine.)

Terms of Use​

Copyright Information​

Tapestry, Inc. ("Coach") is the owner of the Coach brand. Coach owns www.coach.com ("the Site"). Coach owns or has rights to all of the wallpaper, icons, characters, artwork, images, graphics, music, text, software and other content of the Site (the "Content"), and all HTML, CGI and other code and scripts in any format used to implement the Site (the "Code"). The Content and Code of the Site is protected by copyright. You may not copy, modify, upload, download, transmit, re-publish, display for redistribution to third parties for commercial purposes, or otherwise distribute any Code or Content from the Site without the prior written agreement of Coach. You may not use the Content or Code from the Site for any purpose other than those set forth above. All names, logos and trademarks which appear on the Site are the property of Coach or are used by Coach under license. You may not use any of the foregoing for any purpose without the prior express written permission of Coach. Your failure to comply with these Terms of Use will constitute breach of contract and will violate Coach's copyright, trademark and other proprietary and industrial property rights. You may print in hard copy portions of this website with the sole intent of placing an order with Coach or for keeping store location, hours or phone number information. The use of any such material for any other reason, on any other website, or the modification, distribution, or republication of this material without prior written permission from Coach is strictly prohibited.

Right. I forgot that even if you own the catalog it is not okay to copy and distribute copies of all or part of the catalog.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hey there! Thanks y'all for the authentications - I never thought anybody would get back to me today!!

For the 9033, that has 2 outer pockets on one side only. Maybe it is not obvious from my pictures laying flat. I have a few of that style and the construction of this purple bag is pretty much correct in size and detai. It is a good fake. I didn't like the 2 one-sided fobs, I thought that was weird.
OK that one goes in the fake pile.

Michelle, I've corrected my previous post. Sorry about that. In the photos the pocket opening is almost invisible.

But the serial prefix still shows an invalid code combination, and the split hangtag on a bag from that year is also a red flag as you already noticed.

 

[Michelle1x]

Michelle, I've corrected my previous post. In the photos the pocket opening is almost invisible.

But the serial prefix still shows an invalid code combination, and the split hangtag on a bag from that year is also a red flag as you noticed.

thanks
About 6 years ago I was addicted to estate sales and one sale had a Coach rehabber/reseller inventory of 200+ Coach bags. The auction house broke it into 3 parts and I bought one, about 70 bags - that's where these fakes come from. Probably her entire inventory was thrifted back when Coach was much cheaper. And it was harder to authenticate 20 years ago too, so she probably thought all were real.

 

[Hyacinth]

thanks
About 6 years ago I was addicted to estate sales and one sale had a Coach rehabber/reseller inventory of 200+ Coach bags. The auction house broke it into 3 parts and I bought one, about 70 bags - that's where these fakes come from. Probably her entire inventory was thrifted back when Coach was much cheaper. And it was harder to authenticate 20 years ago too, so she probably thought all were real.

If all the rest you bought are genuine, that's still a pretty good percentage. And authentication has come a long way in the last 20 years.

Have a wonderful holiday!

 

[DL Harper]

It's an infringement on Coach's intellectual property for ThePurpleCocoon to put her watermark on Coach's copyright catalog images.

Terms Of Use | COACH

COACH Terms Of Use - Use Of Site And Content, Product Information, And More.

www.coach.com

The following is the specific section regarding their copyrighted information. (The red bold highlighting is mine.)

Terms of Use​

Copyright Information​

Tapestry, Inc. ("Coach") is the owner of the Coach brand. Coach owns www.coach.com ("the Site"). Coach owns or has rights to all of the wallpaper, icons, characters, artwork, images, graphics, music, text, software and other content of the Site (the "Content"), and all HTML, CGI and other code and scripts in any format used to implement the Site (the "Code"). The Content and Code of the Site is protected by copyright. You may not copy, modify, upload, download, transmit, re-publish, display for redistribution to third parties for commercial purposes, or otherwise distribute any Code or Content from the Site without the prior written agreement of Coach. You may not use the Content or Code from the Site for any purpose other than those set forth above. All names, logos and trademarks which appear on the Site are the property of Coach or are used by Coach under license. You may not use any of the foregoing for any purpose without the prior express written permission of Coach. Your failure to comply with these Terms of Use will constitute breach of contract and will violate Coach's copyright, trademark and other proprietary and industrial property rights. You may print in hard copy portions of this website with the sole intent of placing an order with Coach or for keeping store location, hours or phone number information. The use of any such material for any other reason, on any other website, or the modification, distribution, or republication of this material without prior written permission from Coach is strictly prohibited.

Interesting because this etsy seller has watermarked most, if not all, of the Coach catalog photos used in her/his listings.

 

[Hyacinth]

Interesting because this etsy seller has watermarked most, if not all, of the Coach catalog photos used in her/his listings.

Let's just say about that Etsy seller that her name is NOT unknown to us.