Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

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[ConnieinSeattle]

Both are genuine, Janice's Legacy and Legacy Zip.

Thank you!!

 

[bouncin]

You're about 10 years off on the year. Mid to late 1970s bags did not have serial numbers in that format. Please ignore online information about Coach dates and serial codes since most of what's out there, even at sites that should supposedly know better, is DEAD WRONG, and use the Salearea Guides thread posted here at tPF to get ACCURATE dating information. I suggest reading the entire thread.

SaleArea guides

Now that ebay is removing the guides they've been hosting for years, those who use those guides have been forced to either save them on their computers or print them. Tonight I found that the Salearea guides (including the Hyacinth/Salearea collaboration ones) have been saved to Salearea's...

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And definitely not a Duffle Sac.

The creed wording puts it at late 1980s at the earliest. Probably a Bucket Bag Small 4070 from the Lightweight line. From the Fall 1989 catalog:

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Thank you! I guess I should have trusted my original research. I had read the SaleArea guides and found some catalog pics as well but then went down a rabbit hole today, due to hurricane sheltering, and fell upon the 1970s xxx-xxxx, made in united states misinfo which made me doubt all I thought I knew. I don't know why I doubted all the evidence! I guess I should have just asked here first.

 

[Sia’s Botique]

Item: Coach Legacy Zip
Listing number: 9966
Seller and site where listed poor_jas on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/8ym2Ja6MFCb
Comments: please authenticate this bag when you get a chance. Thx

 

[whateve]

Item: Coach Legacy Zip
Listing number: 9966
Seller and site where listed poor_jas on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/8ym2Ja6MFCb
Comments: please authenticate this bag when you get a chance. Thx

It looks good from what I can see of the creed.

 

[Sia’s Botique]

It looks good from what I can see of the creed.

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[whateve]

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Definitely authentic.

 

[Sia’s Botique]

Definitely authentic.

Thank you so much whateve!

 

[BeenBurned]

Just out of curiosity, what are the most commonly faked vintage bags? The Willis, of course. Manor? Stewardess? Janice? Court?

Along with the Willis, the 9966 Legacy Zip and almost anything from between 1990 and 2005. The Koreans had jumped into the Coach counterfeiting racket right around 1989- 1990 when Coach opened kiosks in major Japanese department stores followed by stand-alone stores, and the Chinese counterfeiters were right behind them.

Although not vintage, the "most-counterfeited" champ of the 2000 decade might be the Carly line. We hardly see any of those fakes these days but I think, or at least I hope, most fake Carlys have fallen apart by now.

A few other highly faked styles are:
Patricia - 9951
Duffel sac - 9085
Sling? Not sure of name - 9992 (In this style, I literally see more fakes than authentic items.)
ETA: Adding another although there are sooooo many styles that are highly faked!
Soho belted pouch - 4156

Also, very "well faked" and highly faked are styles starting from about 2014 (when Swaggers and Rogues had non-serial numbers) and currently, some of the newer "themed" items - Disney, Peanuts, Nasa, etc.

Another post was just a few days ago when I responded to an authentication request.
This post asked about a bag which is a very close fake:

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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My reply, which shows that unless the problems are pointed out, they're very hard to catch:

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[Hyacinth]

A few other highly faked styles are:
Patricia - 9951
Duffel sac - 9085
Sling? Not sure of name - 9992 (In this style, I literally see more fakes than authentic items.)

Not a very good catalog photo, sorry, from the Holiday 1996 catalog. 9992 is a Handle Backpack ("can also be worn as a sling") and many of the fakes are really close copies.

 

[Dragonflyzoe]

Hi Ladies,

It’s been a while but I’m still lurking in the background.

I’m hoping this is an easy rehab, if authentic, I’d also appreciate it if a style could be identified too.

Additional images for dimensions, strap drop is 22”

MTIA as always.

Zoe xx

Where: Vinted UK
Seller: lizzyk1974
Link: https://www.vinted.co.uk/items/3394001488-coach-vintage-black-leather-small-shoulder-bag

 

[Tilis]

Dear Authenticators, would you pretty please take a gander at this one ? Thanks muchly in advance
Item: Vintage Coach Willis Crossbody Silver Turn Lock Shoulder Bag Purse 9927 Bla
Seller and site where listed: nilwood on ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/204438044288?autorefresh=true&nma=true&si=c7abO9L5z1frDT%2B8eM9pERdnn%2FU%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Comments: Holding my breath on this one

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi Ladies,

It’s been a while but I’m still lurking in the background.

I’m hoping this is an easy rehab, if authentic, I’d also appreciate it if a style could be identified too.

Additional images for dimensions, strap drop is 22”

MTIA as always.

Zoe xx

Where: Vinted UK
Seller: lizzyk1974
Link: https://www.vinted.co.uk/items/3394001488-coach-vintage-black-leather-small-shoulder-bagView attachment 5849906

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The link doesn't go to the listing so I can't check for a creed picture and you didn't post it here.

Please show the creed.

 

[BeenBurned]

Dear Authenticators, would you pretty please take a gander at this one ? Thanks muchly in advance
Item: Vintage Coach Willis Crossbody Silver Turn Lock Shoulder Bag Purse 9927 Bla
Seller and site where listed: nilwood on ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/204438044288?autorefresh=true&nma=true&si=c7abO9L5z1frDT%2B8eM9pERdnn%2FU%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Comments: Holding my breath on this one

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It's fine. You can breathe!

 

[Tilis]

Thank you Ms BB for your time, expertise and my breath

 

[whateve]

Hi Ladies,

It’s been a while but I’m still lurking in the background.

I’m hoping this is an easy rehab, if authentic, I’d also appreciate it if a style could be identified too.

Additional images for dimensions, strap drop is 22”

MTIA as always.

Zoe xx

Where: Vinted UK
Seller: lizzyk1974
Link: https://www.vinted.co.uk/items/3394001488-coach-vintage-black-leather-small-shoulder-bagView attachment 5849906

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I can see the link. It is authentic. It is a Minetta zip 4123 from the Lightweights collection, early 90s.