Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

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For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
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• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[CaseyBoston]

Authenticators, does this listing show enough for you to evaluate this bag? The creed photo is tiny and weirdly angled. Love the color (and I don't yet own a Willis) but at $100+ I need more that a 'certificate of authenticity' to bid.

Thank you in advance.

Used Authentic Vintage Coach Willis Hunter Green Leather Top Handle Handbag Purse

shopgoodwill.com

 

[Hyacinth]

Thank you! I live in the Seattle area, the bag was pick up only, in Las Vegas. I went to get it! Amongst other reasons for the trip.

Hope you had fun, and that your good luck stuck with you in Vegas!

 

[Hyacinth]

Authenticators, does this listing show enough for you to evaluate this bag? The creed photo is tiny and weirdly angled. Love the color (and I don't yet own a Willis) but at $100+ I need more that a 'certificate of authenticity' to bid.

Thank you in advance.

Used Authentic Vintage Coach Willis Hunter Green Leather Top Handle Handbag Purse

shopgoodwill.com

Can you copy the seller's photos of the front of the bag, and especially whatever photos they posted of the creed and serial number? Thanks!

Goodwill's regular "authenticators" are next to useless when Coach items are involved, especially the service whose name begins with an "E", and my computer is refusing to open listing photos.

 

[remykc]

It's good. The style was made in 2006 for the Factory (outlet) Stores. Very few of those Factory Store bags ever were shown on Coach's website and I don't have anydetails or photos.

Is there any way for newbies to identify Factory bags? I thought they would have a bullseye or "O" stamp on the patch.

 

[BeenBurned]

Authenticators, does this listing show enough for you to evaluate this bag? The creed photo is tiny and weirdly angled. Love the color (and I don't yet own a Willis) but at $100+ I need more that a 'certificate of authenticity' to bid.

Thank you in advance.

Used Authentic Vintage Coach Willis Hunter Green Leather Top Handle Handbag Purse

shopgoodwill.com

Can you copy the seller's photos of the front of the bag, and especially whatever photos they posted of the creed and serial number? Thanks!

Goodwill's regular "authenticators" are next to useless when Coach items are involved, especially the service whose name begins with an "E", and my computer is refusing to open listing photos.

I won't say more than that if that company authenticated the bag with this "creed" (and other pictures), they shouldn't be authenticating: (Other than this picture, there NO CREED photo.)

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi! I picked up this bag at thrift store for $10. It appears to be a Hamptons hobo from 2006, but I have yet to find it on the archived Coach website pages from that year. Also, there is no brass clip like on all the other bags.

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It's good. The style was made in 2006 for the Factory (outlet) Stores. Very few of those Factory Store bags ever were shown on Coach's website and I don't have anydetails or photos.

Is there any way for newbies to identify Factory bags? I thought they would have a bullseye or "O" stamp on the patch.

Your bag is MFF, made for factory, meaning it wasn't sold in the full priced Coach stores or department stores, although they have been know to make their way to discounters like TJ Maxx, Nordstrom Rack and the like.

MFF bags are identified as such by the "F" in front of the style number, hence F10279. (I don't believe Coach still uses the "F" notation on current bags with C as the first part of the style.)

OTOH, when a bag has a "bullet" stamp, that's usually an indication of a boutique (full priced) bag that was made to be sold in their stores and full priced department stores that was subsequently moved to the outlets and sold at a discounted price.

 

[bouncin]

Item: Coach Duffle Sac?
Local thrift store purchase
I have searched the threads and vintage catalogs but couldn't find an exact match for this. Seems to be mid-late 70s (### - #### code, made in united states)?
measures: approximately 8.5"H x 9 - 10"W (widens at top) x 3"D

Thanks for any input

 

[CaseyBoston]

I won't say more than that if that company authenticated the bag with this "creed" (and other pictures), they shouldn't be authenticating: (Other than this picture, there NO CREED photo.)
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Thank you to Hyacinth and BeenBurned.

The price is way over my limit for taking a wild chance. You've taught me well about Goodwill's 'authenticators.' I've noticed more and more Goodwill listings without clear creed photos--yet the bags go for crazy prices anyway. Yikes.

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

While in Vegas, I visited the Savers thrift store. Score! I found 2 vintage coach bags there. Here is the first. Please and thank you for an authentication. Measures approx. 9.5 x 9 x 4. Made in Dominican Republic.

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

Here's the second of the thrift store finds. Thank you. It measures about 11 x 10 x 4.5.

 

[Hyacinth]

Authenticators, does this listing show enough for you to evaluate this bag? The creed photo is tiny and weirdly angled. Love the color (and I don't yet own a Willis) but at $100+ I need more that a 'certificate of authenticity' to bid.

Thank you in advance.

Used Authentic Vintage Coach Willis Hunter Green Leather Top Handle Handbag Purse

shopgoodwill.com

I won't say more than that if that company authenticated the bag with this "creed" (and other pictures), they shouldn't be authenticating: (Other than this picture, there NO CREED photo.)
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There's NO way to authenticate it, especially when it's such a widely-faked bag as a Willis, without a clear creed photo.

But there IS one detail in those photos that BeenBurned posted that's an almost 100 percent SURE SIGN of a fake Willis. DO NOT BUY THAT BAG.

THANKS, @ BB!!!

 

[CaseyBoston]

There's NO way to authenticate it, especially when it's such a widely-faked bag as a Willis, without a clear creed photo.

But there IS one detail in those photos that BeenBurned posted that's an almost 100 percent SURE SIGN of a fake Willis. DO NOT BUY THAT BAG.

THANKS, @ BB!!!

That's a big No, thanks to you. I didnt even bid on it (couldn't see the creed, don't trust Goodwill's authenticators, and the bidding went skyward pretty fast).

Last I saw, the bidding was up to $120. Someone is about to be ripped off. Thanks to you, Hyacinth and BeenBurned, it won't be me (but I'm sorry that it's anyone. A pox on counterfeiters and robot authenticators!).

Just out of curiosity, what are the most commonly faked vintage bags? The Willis, of course. Manor? Stewardess? Janice? Court?

 

[Hyacinth]

While in Vegas, I visited the Savers thrift store. Score! I found 2 vintage coach bags there. Here is the first. Please and thank you for an authentication. Measures approx. 9.5 x 9 x 4. Made in Dominican Republic.

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Here's the second of the thrift store finds. Thank you. It measures about 11 x 10 x 4.5.

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Both are genuine, Janice's Legacy and Legacy Zip.

 

[Hyacinth]

That's a big No, thanks to you. I didnt even bid on it (couldn't see the creed, don't trust Goodwill's authenticators, and the bidding went skyward pretty fast).

Last I saw, the bidding was up to $120. Someone is about to be ripped off. Thanks to you, Hyacinth and BeenBurned, it won't be me (but I'm sorry that it's anyone. A pox on counterfeiters and robot authenticators!).

Just out of curiosity, what are the most commonly faked vintage bags? The Willis, of course. Manor? Stewardess? Janice? Court?

Along with the Willis, the 9966 Legacy Zip and almost anything from between 1990 and 2005. The Koreans had jumped into the Coach counterfeiting racket right around 1989- 1990 when Coach opened kiosks in major Japanese department stores followed by stand-alone stores, and the Chinese counterfeiters were right behind them.

Although not vintage, the "most-counterfeited" champ of the 2000 decade might be the Carly line. We hardly see any of those fakes these days but I think, or at least I hope, most fake Carlys have fallen apart by now.

 

[Hyacinth]

Item: Coach Duffle Sac?
Local thrift store purchase
I have searched the threads and vintage catalogs but couldn't find an exact match for this. Seems to be mid-late 70s (### - #### code, made in united states)?
measures: approximately 8.5"H x 9 - 10"W (widens at top) x 3"D

Thanks for any input

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You're about 10 years off on the year. Mid to late 1970s bags did not have serial numbers in that format. Please ignore online information about Coach dates and serial codes since most of what's out there, even at sites that should supposedly know better, is DEAD WRONG, and use the Salearea Guides thread posted here at tPF to get ACCURATE dating information. I suggest reading the entire thread.

SaleArea guides

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And definitely not a Duffle Sac.

The creed wording puts it at late 1980s at the earliest. Probably a Bucket Bag Small 4070 from the Lightweight line. From the Fall 1989 catalog: