Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[traciraedunn]

Yes, it's authentic, and Whateve's comments are correct in every detail. There's NO need to ask for a second opinion.

Let me tell you something about the Coach authenticators here. All 3 of us have been buying, selling, studying and/or researching Coach and authenticating the brand for a VERY long time and have something like 35 YEARS of experience among us, as well as an encyclopedic collection of text files about details and descriptions. We also probably have a combined total of at least 200,000 photos in our collections of both authentic AND fake Coaches including many very small details that are absolutely vital in determining if a "Coach" is real or not. False modesty isn't one of my faults (I have NO faults actually except for being a bit short-tempered ) so I'm going to say that we are the best damn Coach authenticators on the internet, paid OR free, and any mistakes we might make over the course of a year can probably be counted on the fingers of one hand. We work together and share our knowledge and our resources, and if one of us does happen to get something wrong, the other two will usually catch and correct the mistake very quickly. If we can't find an answer we'll keep digging and discussing the problem until we do.

This is NOT one of those anonymous internet sites or Facebook Groups where someone asks "is this Coach authentic" and 10 people jump in with different and often conflicting answers. We don't Copy & Paste nonsense and BS that we find "somewhere on the internet" as fact. Authenticators here at tPF have to actually be recognised experts with a proven track record here, and no one except the recognised and forum-approved Authenticators with that title under their icons are permitted to give any kind of authentication opinions. The other two ladies I work with, BeenBurned and Whateve, are the best Coach authenticators on the internet. PERIOD.

I really appreciate your help and the priceless lesson. I truly did not mean to upset anyone and I look forward to your expertise in the future. Thanks again

 

[BeenBurned]

Good morning. I think I’ve had every color of this bag. Except this brown. Wondering if it’s real—having extreme doubts.

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Yes, it's fake. But wow!

That's scary and I think the first time I've seen that bag (11422) faked.

 

[Roro]

Yes, it's fake. But wow!

I agree. Thank you!

 

[BeenBurned]

I agree. Thank you!

I'm reporting but saving pictures of this one!

 

[BeenBurned]

Please help me identify

Black vintage crossbody, interior suede. Serial No. 0553-310. I purchased it from a thrift store.
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It is authentic and looks like a Scooter bag, style 9893 from (I believe) the early 90s.

 

[j9ac]

I've recently gone back to my 70s-80s Coach roots for handbag shopping (newer bags are not exciting me) and found this site. Thanks so much to the Authenticators Hyacinth, BeenBurned, and Whateve and people like Lake Effect for the wealth of information and the old catalogs! I'm soaking it all in.

A couple of questions:
[1] During the creed transition in the late 80s, you can find creeds reading "Made in U.S.A" and "Made in the United States" followed by an XXX-XXXX number. Would the use of the older number format (along with the newer "Made in" wording) indicate that the bag is still from the NYC plant? Or is that usage inconsistent as well?
[2] I just happened upon this listing...have never seen a Classic Shoulder with a turnlock. If this is bag is authentic, roughly when would it have been made? I cannot find it in the catalogs (Not Stewardess-no feet, Not Small Shoulder-measures larger, Not Ranch).
Item: Coach Vintage Classic Shoulder Bag With Turnlock NYC RARE
Listing Number: 304817233676
Site/Seller: ebay/lianjo133-6
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/304817233676

 

[Jacynthe]

Good afternoon dear authenticators! A request to authenticate please. Thank you!

• Item: 4140 Tote (Lafayette?)
  Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
  Comments: dimensions are about 11" height, 11" width and 5 1/2" depth. ETA; I am going to add a better photo of the creed, I just saw that it is not clear.

 

[Jacynthe]

Good afternoon dear authenticators! A request to authenticate please. Thank you!

• Item: 4140 Tote (Lafayette?)
  Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
  Comments: dimensions are about 11" height, 11" width and 5 1/2" depth. ETA: Pardon, I take such horrible photos!! This still looks not as clear as is should be. Will try once more.

 

[BeenBurned]

Good afternoon dear authenticators! A request to authenticate please. Thank you!

• Item: 4140 Tote (Lafayette?)
  Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
  Comments: dimensions are about 11" height, 11" width and 5 1/2" depth. ETA; I am going to add a better photo of the creed, I just saw that it is not clear.

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It’s genuine.

 

[Jacynthe]

It’s genuine.

Thank you BeenBurned for sharing your time and knowledge with my request! I appreciate it!

 

[Jacynthe]

Dear authenticators, my second and final request to authenticate this evening please. Thank you!!

Item: Soho small basket bag 4107
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 7" height, 5" on bottom and 9" on top for the length. 4" depth. ETA: urgh! upside down creeds! I swear I take them right side up. From now on, I am going to take upside down creed photos hoping they will turn right side up in my posts!

 

[whateve]

I've recently gone back to my 70s-80s Coach roots for handbag shopping (newer bags are not exciting me) and found this site. Thanks so much to the Authenticators Hyacinth, BeenBurned, and Whateve and people like Lake Effect for the wealth of information and the old catalogs! I'm soaking it all in.

A couple of questions:
[1] During the creed transition in the late 80s, you can find creeds reading "Made in U.S.A" and "Made in the United States" followed by an XXX-XXXX number. Would the use of the older number format (along with the newer "Made in" wording) indicate that the bag is still from the NYC plant? Or is that usage inconsistent as well?
[2] I just happened upon this listing...have never seen a Classic Shoulder with a turnlock. If this is bag is authentic, roughly when would it have been made? I cannot find it in the catalogs (Not Stewardess-no feet, Not Small Shoulder-measures larger, Not Ranch).
Item: Coach Vintage Classic Shoulder Bag With Turnlock NYC RARE
Listing Number: 304817233676
Site/Seller: ebay/lianjo133-6
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/304817233676

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1. When Coach transitioned to those two creed formats, they had added a second plant in Miami, I believe. Both of those creed formats mean the bag was made in either NYC or the second plant. There is no proof that one or the other was assigned to one of these plants exclusively. The number format, whether XXX-XXXX or XXXX-XXX, has not been proven to be exclusively from one plant or the other.

2. I don't have this style in my files. It could be a classic pouch and someone added a turnlock, possibly after purchase. It's authentic.

 

[whateve]

Dear authenticators, my second and final request to authenticate this evening please. Thank you!!

Item: Soho small basket bag 4107
Where purchased or how obtained: thrift store
Comments: dimensions are 7" height, 5" on bottom and 9" on top for the length. 4" depth. ETA: urgh! upside down creeds! I swear I take them right side up. From now on, I am going to take upside down creed photos hoping they will turn right side up in my posts!

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It's fine.

 

[Jacynthe]

It's fine.

Thank you whateve for sharing your time and knowledge with me for this request! I appreciate it!

 

[j9ac]

1. When Coach transitioned to those two creed formats, they had added a second plant in Miami, I believe. Both of those creed formats mean the bag was made in either NYC or the second plant. There is no proof that one or the other was assigned to one of these plants exclusively. The number format, whether XXX-XXXX or XXXX-XXX, has not been proven to be exclusively from one plant or the other.

2. I don't have this style in my files. It could be a classic pouch and someone added a turnlock, possibly after purchase. It's authentic.

Thank you for the creed/plant info (or maybe it's "non-info"?!)
It didn't occur to me that the turnlock would have been added later but that makes sense.