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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#73,696
katev said:
Item: Coach Bag - Other Unisex Purple New with Defect
Listing number: 304379982321
Seller and site where listed: ebay; authenticathleticapparel
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/304379982321?hash=item46de75f1f1:g:GJoAAOSwW6piH4B3
Comments: This strikes me as fake but maybe I am just not familiar with this style?
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I'll give you a hint - any time you see a Signature C-pattern lining where the linked C pairs are vertical instead of horizontal, you've got a fake. Also fake inside zipper pull, fake brass hangtag, thin cheap straps, and cheap printed lining. Style number 10620 belongs ONLY to a Carly Signature Large and that purple thing is most definitely NOT a Carly. The entire style is fake, and the entire bag is a defect. The prefix D2J- is almost always found in fakes, and the year code "2" is for at least 3 years before the Carlys were even introduced. I doubt if it's even leather. Feel free to report.

This is what a 10620 should look like:
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katev said:
Item: Coach Bag - Other Unisex Purple New with Defect
Listing number: 304379982321
Seller and site where listed: ebay; authenticathleticapparel
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/304379982321?hash=item46de75f1f1:g:GJoAAOSwW6piH4B3
Comments: This strikes me as fake but maybe I am just not familiar with this style?
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Hyacinth said:
I'll give you a hint - any time you see a Signature C-pattern lining where the linked C pairs are vertical instead of horizontal, you've got a fake. Also fake inside zipper pull, fake brass hangtag, thin cheap straps, and cheap printed lining. Style number 10620 belongs ONLY to a Carly Signature Large and that purple thing is most definitely NOT a Carly. The entire style is fake, and the entire bag is a defect. The prefix D2J- is almost always found in fakes, and the year code "2" is for at least 3 years before the Carlys were even introduced. I doubt if it's even leather. Feel free to report.

This is what a 10620 should look like:
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I was pretty certain it was fake but I wanted to be sure that it wasn't just ugly before reporting it, thanks!
 
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Item: COACH 9003 Black Leather Flap Shoulder Bag
Listing number: 145678876
Seller and site where listed: Shopgoodwill,
Link: https://shopgoodwill.com/item/145678876

Comments: This auction will end soon and there are 5 bidders. The bag is called a 9003 Black Leather Flap Shoulder Bag on the listing but on the Entrupy COA it is billed as a 9003 Black Leather Lindy Kisslock Framed Purse.

I think that's because they are using the second part of the random serial number as the style number. I think that it is really a Station Bag 5130, but I do think that it is authentic, do you agree?

I sure hope that the bidders don't bid too high and I hope that they know what they are actually getting, but I am certain that it's not a Lindy!

ETA: I just noticed that it says something about “misnamed during the authentication process but the pictures are the same” but the bag name on the listing name is wrong, too!

Update: The auction just ended and there were 7 bidders. It sold for $39 so I hope the winner got the bag she wanted - but this thing was a real mess!

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#73,701
Tilis said:
I hate to add to your workload @Hyacinth,but if you get a chance could you authenticate this:

Item:
Coach Women Brown Leather Purse
Listing number:
Seller and site where listed Link: https://shopgoodwill.com/item/145601754
Comments: It looks like, walks like and quacks like the two I already have, but then I have not had those two authenticated.
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It's a genuine Metropolis Zip made in 1997
 
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Dear authenticators: I think I have been duped. A while ago before I knew as much as I know now, I bought a Bleeker bag with the serial number J9H-9305. I later read that none of you have ever seen a bag with J9H or J8H on the creed that wasn’t a fake. I just looked at the Bleeker bag I bought again and saw the J9H - and remembered the posts about it. I’m kicking myself - I spent the time to rehab it and was trying to sell it. I’ve deactivated the sales listing for it and if it is indeed a fake, I’ll get rid of the bag. The eBay listing is still working:

Platform: eBay
Seller: pursefetish12

If her pictures aren’t good enough, I have the ones I took of the bag after my rehab.

Thanks,
Lucy
 
#73,704
Hyacinth said:
I'm not going to give any opinion until the difference between the 2 serial numbers is explained and a photo of the back of the turnlock received.
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I finally received a response, and the turnlock looks good but the rest of this whole thing is giving me bad vibes - she says she didn't know the style before, but...it was always a Willis, both serials were for a Willis. Then she raises the price, but says she'll honor $105...but I responded to an offer for $95. Since I am a noob and since I would not scam or even probably sell bags myself, I don't get why people make listings with clearly the wrong number in the title, in the description, and still show the creed patch with a totally different number. Is it some kind of planned scam or are people just really, really, REALLY lacking in attention to detail?? I feel like if you know enough about Coach bags to state anything regarding style name or number and include a photo of the creed, you know enough to post everything correctly. Sheesh. Anyway, she got back to me finally with better pictures. I think she is interpreting the serial number incorrectly but given the previous post, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.C20C6BA0-F85E-440E-816E-3FC0B76158A5_1_201_a.jpeg09D19387-A87C-461B-958B-D326A5E31191_1_201_a.jpeg
 
#73,705
katev said:
Item: COACH 9003 Black Leather Flap Shoulder Bag
Listing number: 145678876
Seller and site where listed: Shopgoodwill,
Link: https://shopgoodwill.com/item/145678876

Comments: This auction will end soon and there are 5 bidders. The bag is called a 9003 Black Leather Flap Shoulder Bag on the listing but on the Entrupy COA it is billed as a 9003 Black Leather Lindy Kisslock Framed Purse.

I think that's because they are using the second part of the random serial number as the style number. I think that it is really a Station Bag 5130, but I do think that it is authentic, do you agree?

I sure hope that the bidders don't bid too high and I hope that they know what they are actually getting, but I am certain that it's not a Lindy!

ETA: I just noticed that it says something about “misnamed during the authentication process but the pictures are the same” but the bag name on the listing name is wrong, too!

Update: The auction just ended and there were 7 bidders. It sold for $39 so I hope the winner got the bag she wanted - but this thing was a real mess!

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You're correct, it's actually a Station Bag, and it's genuine.So at least no one who bought it is getting screwed because of Goodwill's and ESPECIALLY that "authentication service's" apparent lack of due diligence.

Speaking of which, for anyone not familiar with that service's history with tPF, apparently a few years ago they got into a major snit with tPF because of some kind of perceived negative comments here about them, and ordered them/us flat out to never mention their name on this site again upon penalty of death or legal action, which is why their name " ***************** " is always shown here as a string of asterisks. So I really hope that anyone reading this will understand WHY we have to cover their butts and they will consider the wisdom of depending on any authentication service, First or Last, that can't be bothered to do something as basic as check a style number or understand the importance of knowing why it's so important to know at least a little BASIC information about why numbers sometimes don't match the photos. It's called RESEARCH, folks. We do it, they don't.

Caveat Emptor.
 
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momoyb said:
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I finally received a response, and the turnlock looks good but the rest of this whole thing is giving me bad vibes - she says she didn't know the style before, but...it was always a Willis, both serials were for a Willis. Then she raises the price, but says she'll honor $105...but I responded to an offer for $95. Since I am a noob and since I would not scam or even probably sell bags myself, I don't get why people make listings with clearly the wrong number in the title, in the description, and still show the creed patch with a totally different number. Is it some kind of planned scam or are people just really, really, REALLY lacking in attention to detail?? I feel like if you know enough about Coach bags to state anything regarding style name or number and include a photo of the creed, you know enough to post everything correctly. Sheesh. Anyway, she got back to me finally with better pictures. I think she is interpreting the serial number incorrectly but given the previous post, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.View attachment 5423365View attachment 5423366
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The creed in that photo is for a genuine Willis made in 1999.

As for your other question - sometimes people are just lazy or careless. But a LOT of the blame is on Ebay's shoulders. They allow sellers to use generic descriptions from other listings with the same keywords just because the dimwits at Ebay don't understand that one "brown Coach Willis" isn't the same as every other "brown Coach Willis". They say they're making it easier for sellers to list similar items, but instead sellers blindly do as Ebay suggests and copy information FROM EBAY'S OWN APPROVED FILES that is totally wrong for the item they're selling. Any seller who takes short cuts like that is going to get into trouble sooner or later, and the people at Ebay who started this idiotic "short cut" should get thrown out on their arses for suggesting it AND keeping it going when it's clearly been shown to be a massively STUPID idea.

Always read listings carefully, and don't ever assume that a seller can figure out why copying details of someone else's listing, even if it's a "Ebay-approved" process or short cut, is a good idea. I don't know if that's what happened in this case, but it wouldn't be the first time.

Good luck.
 
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#73,708
Hyacinth said:
Nope, I'd miss the challenge of trying to save buyers from sellers or authenticators who can't be bothered to "measure twice, cut once". :cool:
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You cannot imagine how happy I am to find you ladies. I think, I might have been dumb lucky (accent on dumb) until now, provided the ones I already have are legit. Like someone else said on here - somewhere, it is not the money it is the feeling of having been duped that hurts.
 
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lucy7550 said:
Dear authenticators: I think I have been duped. A while ago before I knew as much as I know now, I bought a Bleeker bag with the serial number J9H-9305. I later read that none of you have ever seen a bag with J9H or J8H on the creed that wasn’t a fake. I just looked at the Bleeker bag I bought again and saw the J9H - and remembered the posts about it. I’m kicking myself - I spent the time to rehab it and was trying to sell it. I’ve deactivated the sales listing for it and if it is indeed a fake, I’ll get rid of the bag. The eBay listing is still working:

Platform: eBay
Seller: pursefetish12

If her pictures aren’t good enough, I have the ones I took of the bag after my rehab.

Thanks,
Lucy
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The listing is already gone, but our statement about the serial prefix still stands. The H plant in the US was closed some time in early 1998 as near as we can tell. All K3H- prefixes indicating a bag made in the US "H" plant in 2003 are also always fake. And K4H- serial prefixes can be either fake OR genuine, depending on details in the creed stamp and the actual item.

If you happen to still have photos of the front of the showing the handle strap, and a clear readable photo of the magnetic snap showing the stamped words and numbers, I'll be glad to take a look.
 
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