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For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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  • Front of item
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BookwormSally said:
Item: Vintage 1970s Coach Mahogany Leather Saddle Bag 9851 Made in the USA
Listing number:203802187462
Seller and site where listed: njgirlinva on eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/203802187462
Comments: I’m pretty sure it’s not from the 70s. Thank you so much for your time and expertise!
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Genuine and made in the late 1980s or 1990, not the 1970s.
 
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Sia’s Botique said:
Item: Coach Willis Bag
Listing number: G3X-9927
Seller and site where listed: aryan30052 on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/EAtEeJhaanb
Comments: Please authentic this bag when you get a chance. Thank you.
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Hyacinth said:
Genuine Willis made in 2003

@Sia’s Botique

I JUST WANT TO ADD - since it's been quietly bugging me. The shape of the flap looks strange. The creed stamp and serial number look genuine and match others in my files, but the shape of the flap looks too rounded on the bottom. I don't know if that's due to camera settings or if there's an actual problem. I personally wouldn't buy from anyone who only posted 2 photos. And when Poshmark is involved, it just makes me even more nervous. Just checked and it seems to be a long-time Posh member even if they don't have as deep a history as many others, but with all the reports of fraud we've heard over the last year, I just want to be extra careful. That seller really needs to post more photos.

If the bag has exactly the same creed and serial number stamping as what's shown in the listing you should be OK. It wouldn't be the first time that a Coach plant has made mistakes in cutting and sewing.

Did you see any indication of what city and state the seller ships from?
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Hyacinth said:
Did you read the comments I added


I can't find a Posh seller using "angelhcloset". The actual URL of the listing page is needed. Poshmark listings are still viewable even after they're sold.

I'm re-posting the URL of your original post here so @whateve or another authenticator can take a look at, it's already four pages back.

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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There's at least as much bad information on YouTube as there is on the rest of the internet. Anyone with a computer and a Google account ID can set up a YT Channel and call themselves an "expert". That DOESN'T make them one.

Please ask here if you need recommendations for legitimate accurate authentication services. For most brands including Coach, the free authentications you get here at tPF will be as accurate as any professional service. Don't spend money on a for-pay service if you don't have to, the only time you might need them is if you need an actual Certificate to use for a dispute with a selling site like Ebay or Poshmark.
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I believe it's okay too. I don't have another Willis in my records that was made in July 2003 but I do have an example of a Janice legacy and it looks identical.
Coach x plant July 2003 .png

Just a comment: I don't know if this is significant but every one of the X/DR creeds in my records has a bullet stamp. The Poshmark bag doesn't have one.

Another comment that further confirms (IMO) authenticity is that the July 2003 bags have puffier stamping than other months of the same year/same plant, and in this case, that consistency is a good thing.

But that doesn't change my opinion on authenticity.

ETA again: I agree with @Hyacinth that the front flap looks weird but I suspect it's the way the bag was photographed and not stuffed.
 
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BeenBurned said:
I believe it's okay too. I don't have another Willis in my records that was made in July 2003 but I do have an example of a Janice legacy and it looks identical.
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Just a comment: I don't know if this is significant but every one of the X/DR creeds in my records has a bullet stamp. The Poshmark bag doesn't have one.

But that doesn't change my opinion on authenticity.
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I noticed the lack of an outlet stamp too, and also that there's some variations in the fonts from that plant in 2003 and the bags with linings and creed patches tend to have a different serial stamp. The Costa Rica "P" plant from 2003 has the same variations. By that time both plants were just working with whatever leftover bits and pieces Coach decided to send them since both plants would be closed by the end of 2004 anyway. Serial number font variations didn't mean anything, those last few plants had to make do with whatever was available.

The REAL challenge is to try to find 2 examples that match exactly. X and Z plants, 2003 Dominican Republic.

2003_X-plant-DR-5187-outlet.jpg 2003_X-plant-DR-F3X-9950.jpg 2003_X-plant-DR-outlet_B3X-9790.jpg 2003_X-plant-DR-QUEST-9950-a.JPG 2003_Z-plant_DR-scrambled_3FZ-9061-a.jpg 2003_Z-plant_scrambled prefix-3FZ-9136-a.jpg 2003_Z-plant-DomRep-L3Z-9564-sm.jpg 2003_Z-plant-DR-9061_Ramblers Legacy-sm.jpg 2003_Z-plant-DR-9960-sm.jpg :biggrin:
 
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LadaZuri said:
Dear authenticators, could you please take a look at this Ebay find? I can't help bidding on it. :lol: Thank you so very much for all you do!!! :flowers:

Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/363698001878?hash=item54ae1717d6:g:kcEAAOSwb41h6fX0

Seller: gunnplay

Listing number: 363698001878
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The bag in question is authentic but seller gunnplay does have a history as well as having sold a fake.
www.ebay.com

Coach Black Leather Briefcase | eBay

Leather, side zipper pocket with Coach creed and number E5C-5265. Front flap with turn lock closure. Top, leather carrying handle. Used ~ Clean ~ Good Condition. Front slip pocket.
www.ebay.com
gunnplay fake coach E5C-5265 front.jpeggunnplay fake coach E5C-5265 creed.jpeg

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BeenBurned said:
The bag in question is authentic but seller gunnplay does have a history as well as having sold a fake.
www.ebay.com

Coach Black Leather Briefcase | eBay

Leather, side zipper pocket with Coach creed and number E5C-5265. Front flap with turn lock closure. Top, leather carrying handle. Used ~ Clean ~ Good Condition. Front slip pocket.
www.ebay.com
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One previous post:

AUTHENTICATE this COACH

Hi everyone! When someone has a chance can you tell me if this bag is authentic? Thank you! COACH Large Vintage Maroon Leather Backpack Handbag Purse #9992...
forum.purseblog.com forum.purseblog.com

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Thank you very much for the heads-up. :flowers:
 
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Hyacinth said:
Genuine Willis made in 2003

@Sia’s Botique

I JUST WANT TO ADD - since it's been quietly bugging me. The shape of the flap looks strange. The creed stamp and serial number look genuine and match others in my files, but the shape of the flap looks too rounded on the bottom. I don't know if that's due to camera settings or if there's an actual problem. I personally wouldn't buy from anyone who only posted 2 photos. And when Poshmark is involved, it just makes me even more nervous. Just checked and it seems to be a long-time Posh member even if they don't have as deep a history as many others, but with all the reports of fraud we've heard over the last year, I just want to be extra careful. That seller really needs to post more photos.

If the bag has exactly the same creed and serial number stamping as what's shown in the listing you should be OK. It wouldn't be the first time that a Coach plant has made mistakes in cutting and sewing.

Did you see any indication of what city and state the seller ships from?
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Hi Hyacinth. I didn’t notice where the seller is from. You’re right, I should have asked for more pictures. Thank you & BB for looking into this. I appreciate it.
 
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