Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

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For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
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• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[BeenBurned]

I think this might be another mystery bag ---- if it's even Coach.

This is from the description which I suspect is total nonsense gleaned from someone's online guide.
"This Coach bag does not have the tag; however, it has the zip slider which is very unique to early Coach bags (9th picture)."

Seller amravilor

RARE VINTAGE COACH BRITISH TAN GLOVE LEATHER S BARREL BAG, NY City USA | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for RARE VINTAGE COACH BRITISH TAN GLOVE LEATHER S BARREL BAG, NY City USA at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

Below is the Q&A from someone who asked a question of the seller and the reply.

 

[whateve]

I think this might be another mystery bag ---- if it's even Coach.

This is from the description which I suspect is total nonsense gleaned from someone's online guide.
"This Coach bag does not have the tag; however, it has the zip slider which is very unique to early Coach bags (9th picture)."

Seller amravilor

RARE VINTAGE COACH BRITISH TAN GLOVE LEATHER S BARREL BAG, NY City USA | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for RARE VINTAGE COACH BRITISH TAN GLOVE LEATHER S BARREL BAG, NY City USA at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

Below is the Q&A from someone who asked a question of the seller and the reply.

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It could be Coach but without any markings, it can't be proven. It does have all the style elements of an early Coach bag, and I recognize the style. The paper clip zipper pull is more identifiable as early Coach than this type of pull.

 

[BeenBurned]

It could be Coach but without any markings, it can't be proven. It does have all the style elements of an early Coach bag, and I recognize the style. The paper clip zipper pull is more identifiable as early Coach than this type of pull.

Thank you.

 

[rivercity]

It's authentic, made in the early to middle 1980s.

Thank you!!!

 

[ConnieinSeattle]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/20/62/732062790e535fe223dfde22bf1af821--coach-handbags-coach-bags.jpg. Wondering if this is similar to the mystery bag. Pinterest.

 

[BeenBurned]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/20/62/732062790e535fe223dfde22bf1af821--coach-handbags-coach-bags.jpg. Wondering if this is similar to the mystery bag. Pinterest.

That DOES look like the bag I asked about.

Too bad there aren't more pictures showing the inside.

 

[namakafig]

Hi there, can someone please help me authenticate this item? If additional info is needed, please let me know. Thanks in advance!

Item: Court Bag 9870
Seller: shinash2 (reposhed from rainbogardnshop)
Poshmark Listing: https://poshmark.com/listing/NICE-V...g-9870-Black-Leather-6142480b2ca9ab628f68ed6f
Comments: Haven't bought from Poshmark before so I'm not familiar with reposhing, but Poshmark's help page implies this listing is legit even though the reposh price is higher than rainbogardnshop's original listing here: https://poshmark.com/listing/NICE-V...g-9870-Black-Leather-61366e9e163df4d3e4afa756

 

[psw067764]

Just reposting this here. Is this authentic? Thanks. Any idea which series or model?
https://carousell.app.link/O7v4hK73Xkb.
Seller Id: yy_lum

 

[psw067764]

Also this one: is this authentic? Does the price tag offer any clues? Thanks.

Listing: https://www.carousell.com.hk/p/coach-公事包-1123684264/
seller: Michelle Pang

 

[whateve]

Hi there, can someone please help me authenticate this item? If additional info is needed, please let me know. Thanks in advance!

Item: Court Bag 9870
Seller: shinash2 (reposhed from rainbogardnshop)
Poshmark Listing: https://poshmark.com/listing/NICE-V...g-9870-Black-Leather-6142480b2ca9ab628f68ed6f
Comments: Haven't bought from Poshmark before so I'm not familiar with reposhing, but Poshmark's help page implies this listing is legit even though the reposh price is higher than rainbogardnshop's original listing here: https://poshmark.com/listing/NICE-V...g-9870-Black-Leather-61366e9e163df4d3e4afa756

It's authentic. Reposhing is when someone buys something from a posh member, then later decides to resell it. They are allowed to use the original listing's pictures. I would imagine the higher price is due to the fees the seller will have to pay, which are 20%. You can make an offer to the seller to see if she will accept a discount. Most posh sellers are open to that.

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

Thanks, I was hoping that interior might give me a clue to whether it might be a large travel clutch of some kind, but apparently not or it would have probably had things like credit card or business card slots or pockets, so it's definitely a handbag style. There just doesn't seem to be any currently available information about it, just the the serial number format indicating it was made in the early 1990s. I've checked all my late 1980s and early 1990s paper catalogs and all the catalog scans posted in the Reference subforum for the appropriate time period. Add it to our Mystery bag family.

Wow I was just talking to my friend about that. I said it reminds me of the men's, women's travel clutch bag but it has the shoulder strap w rings and just the zipper pocket.
Did Coach ever experiment on styles that just did not sell, and so they stopped making them? Or did someone go rogue in one of the factories and made whatever they felt like one day? It is a mystery. Thanks for all of your research.

 

[DL Harper]

That DOES look like the bag I asked about.

Too bad there aren't more pictures showing the inside.

Interesting shape. But the zipper pull isn't the same in the ebay bag as the Pinterest bag.

 

[Hyacinth]

Wow I was just talking to my friend about that. I said it reminds me of the men's, women's travel clutch bag but it has the shoulder strap w rings and just the zipper pocket.
Did Coach ever experiment on styles that just did not sell, and so they stopped making them? Or did someone go rogue in one of the factories and made whatever they felt like one day? It is a mystery. Thanks for all of your research.

I'm sure that even back in the early 1990s they were making sample bags, and styles that weren't selling well could be pulled from inventory pretty quickly when there were only a handful of stores compared to today. They probably also made what today we call pilot bags to judge buyer response. My guess is that a pilot bag would only have been released to one or two stores, usually their biggest, and wouldn't have been included in catalogs until and unless they were approved for full production, it would be a waste of valuable advertising space. I bought a pilot bag from the full-price store (they had to order it from NYC or Jax, wherever they shipped from back then) around 2005 and IIRC it was on the website very briefly, which is where I saw it, but I never saw it in a paper catalog. Websites were flexible and easily altered if something had to be changed, catalogs aren't.

But like 95 percent of what I post about the "early days", those are just educated guesses.

 

[BeenBurned]

Interesting shape. But the zipper pull isn't the same in the ebay bag as the Pinterest bag.

The leather piece on the zipper pull in the ebay listing almost looks added or replaced. Or maybe in fell off the Pinterest one.

 

[milesfarmgirl]

Hi—hoping you experts can weigh in on this Coach Willis bag I have in my possession. I purchased it on EBay last month, but am now questioning its authenticity. The exterior measures approx. 9.5” tall to top of dowel x 10.5” wide x 3.5” deep at base. Please let me know if additional photos are needed—many thanks