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#1 no creed picture, can't be authenticated.
#2 authentic convertible clutch made in the 1980s
#3 authentic convertible clutch made in the 1980s
#4 authentic. Probably something from the lightweights collection made in the late 80s/early 90s. It's probably black. The blue of these usually wasn't confused with black. It might be 4017 Light hobo.

On the Light Hobo did the black have blue stitching or does that mean they dyed a blue one to black? I noticed blue stitching in the photots.
 
On the Light Hobo did the black have blue stitching or does that mean they dyed a blue one to black? I noticed blue stitching in the photots.

I don't remember that style having contrasting stitching. It's impossible to guess what a previous owner might have done. And colors don't always photograph the same way the human eye sees them.
 
I appreciate you guys taking the time to think about this one. Here's a photo of the 2 pocket corners inside out. Nada. No tag. The hardware looks good, the bulk of the exterior material looks good. I suppose it could be a fluke that there's no tag inside perhaps a factory mistake?
Sorry. I can't help.

I think it's okay but I'm surprised there's nothing there.
 
Item: Coach Handbag Pocketbook Bleecker Shoulder Strap Zipper and Inner Pocket - Brown
Listing number: 203301577017
Seller and site where listed: baconbobacon and eBay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/203301577017
Comments: Is this authentic and is that the right style name? I tried searching to match the style but could not determine if it is right or what the actual bag style is.
It's authentic. It is part of the Lightweights collection. The seller is probably right in calling it a Bleecker or Bleeker bag. The style number is 4153.
 
It's authentic. It is part of the Lightweights collection. The seller is probably right in calling it a Bleecker or Bleeker bag. The style number is 4153.

OK...so that is 2 I have found that were called lightweights collection. I am new to buying these so I assume that means they used a different leather to reduce the weight of the bags? Even though I new a lot of people in the 80s and 90s that carried them I could not afford them and now that I can afford them I am enthralled by them and want at least one of each. :smile:
 
Request for authentication, opinions…

Seller: gemsolderthani


I purchased this a while ago and it’s still bugging me. This “early stewardess” has “solid brass” buckles that appear to have been only plated which has worn off and a bad replacement male turnlock piece, but only 2 slits where the old one was. This bag also has the Coach cartouche embossed on the first inside pocket and “top grain cowhide” in gold on the inside zipper pocket. It measures 11 x 9.5 x 4. I’ve included some detailed shots and if anything else is needed let me know. Any input is appreciated!

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Interesting, lol…I am very surprised to see the “ Top Grain Cowhide” gold print
ETA: Definitely would like to know the answers too.
 
@whateve and @Cutesuzyq


It was intro'd in the Holiday 1995 catalog, which would actually make it one of the Sohos based on the 41** style number, although Coach apparently didn't use the Soho "family" name in their official descriptions.

There have been dozens of styles over the decades that used the "Bleecker" name as part of the style name, but 4153 is the first and so far the only one where the name is spelled without the "C". Like many vintage Coach bags, it was named after an iconic district, street or landmark in NYC but like others before and after them, the namers didn't get the name quite right the first time around.

At least Simon and Garfunkel got it right.




Just a bit of Coach trivia. :biggrin:

1995 Holiday catalog, click on the thumbnail:

4153_Bleeker Bag -no C- intro Holiday 1995-c.jpg


1997 Website:
4153_Bleeker Bag-1997.jpg
 
@whateve and @Cutesuzyq


It was intro'd in the Holiday 1995 catalog, which would actually make it one of the Sohos based on the 41** style number, although Coach apparently didn't use the Soho "family" name in their official descriptions.

There have been dozens of styles over the decades that used the "Bleecker" name as part of the style name, but 4153 is the first and so far the only one where the name is spelled without the "C". Like many vintage Coach bags, it was named after an iconic district, street or landmark in NYC but like others before and after them, the namers didn't get the name quite right the first time around.

At least Simon and Garfunkel got it right.




Just a bit of Coach trivia. :biggrin:

1995 Holiday catalog, click on the thumbnail:

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1997 Website:
View attachment 5228370


Cool history.

So what is the difference between the 4075 and the 4153 in the pictures they look the same with some very minor measurement changes.
4153_Bleeker Bag -no C- intro Holiday 1995-c.jpg

4075.jpg

I thought they changed the serial format from xxxx-xxx to xxx-xxxx in 1993? And what color would this be considered. They have it listed as brown but the only brown listed for either the 4075 or the 4153 is British Tan or Buttersotch (4075)?
Coach-Handbag-Pocketbook-Bleecker-Shoulder-Strap-Zipper-and-Inner-Pocket---Brown-_-eBay.jpg
 
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