Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[JOODLZ]

The optic signature demi is authentic.

The Companion Bag is also ok.

Thanks, Ladies!

 

[ModXer]

Genuine. It looks like the Madison Satchel Large, style 9765 from the mid-1980s.

Ah, thank you so much, Hyacinth!

 

[maramd]

It could be a Lightweight/Soho Waverly 4133 although the length measurements aren't the same as Coach's, but that could depend on whether it was measuered at the top or base of the bag. I think it's ok although the creed seems a bit puffy. Other opinions are welcome.

Thank you!

 

[whateve]

Please authenticate. Thanks.

COACH Vintage Dark Blue Leather Handbag Purse #1470-424 VG Preown Clean In & Out
Item 13117355886
Seller bluehousemarket
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131517355886?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

It could be a Lightweight/Soho Waverly 4133 although the length measurements aren't the same as Coach's, but that could depend on whether it was measuered at the top or base of the bag. I think it's ok although the creed seems a bit puffy. Other opinions are welcome.

My opinion is exactly the same. Being it is supposed to be lightweight leather, I think it should be pretty hard to make a puffy creed. There is an outlet stamp.

A waverly normally has two inside pockets; this bag only has one. It looks like they changed the design and the early version only had one pocket. This one, made in 1994, only has one pocket: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-4133-...026?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aea7a23e2 The creed on this one has the depth of stamping we normally would see on a Soho bag.

 

[BeenBurned]

My opinion is exactly the same. Being it is supposed to be lightweight leather, I think it should be pretty hard to make a puffy creed. There is an outlet stamp.

A waverly normally has two inside pockets; this bag only has one. It looks like they changed the design and the early version only had one pocket. This one, made in 1994, only has one pocket: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-4133-...026?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aea7a23e2 The creed on this one has the depth of stamping we normally would see on a Soho bag.

I'm curious about the border around "No." although the numbers look right.

 

[whateve]

I'm curious about the border around "No." although the numbers look right.

I've seen that border around "No." before.

 

[BeenBurned]

I've seen that border around "No." before.

Thanks.

 

[Hyacinth]

I'm curious about the border around "No." although the numbers look right.

The "No" on older stamps was a single unit unlike the rest of the serial number digits so a border around it isn't a red flag.

 

[BeenBurned]

The "No" on older stamps was a single unit unlike the rest of the serial number digits so a border around it isn't a red flag.

Thank you, too!

 

[whateve]

Interesting. I've never seen one like this before with a logo. It has to be fake because of the way the ends are sewn.
VINTAGE COACH BLACK LEATHER REPLACEMENT STRAPS BAGS CROSSBODY PURSE 43" Brass
vintage-and-modern-madness
111680220073
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-COA...-BAGS-CROSSBODY-PURSE-43-Brass-/111680220073?

 

[Hyacinth]

Interesting. I've never seen one like this before with a logo. It has to be fake because of the way the ends are sewn.
VINTAGE COACH BLACK LEATHER REPLACEMENT STRAPS BAGS CROSSBODY PURSE 43" Brass
vintage-and-modern-madness
111680220073
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-COA...-BAGS-CROSSBODY-PURSE-43-Brass-/111680220073?

And Coach NEVER stamped their name on any kind of strap clip, trigger-type or dogleash. AFAIK they STILL don't. A strap with a stamped clip is always fake.

And yeah, if there are exceptions, just hit me with them and get it over with.

 

[maramd]

My opinion is exactly the same. Being it is supposed to be lightweight leather, I think it should be pretty hard to make a puffy creed. There is an outlet stamp.

A waverly normally has two inside pockets; this bag only has one. It looks like they changed the design and the early version only had one pocket. This one, made in 1994, only has one pocket: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-4133-...026?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aea7a23e2 The creed on this one has the depth of stamping we normally would see on a Soho bag.

Thanks whateve for your input. Appreciate the help. I was outbid.

 

[whateve]

And Coach NEVER stamped their name on any kind of strap clip, trigger-type or dogleash. AFAIK they STILL don't. A strap with a stamped clip is always fake.

And yeah, if there are exceptions, just hit me with them and get it over with.

I'm hitting you over the head now, so duck! Recent strap hardware does have a logo but only on the type in this listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Coach-2...768?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c5374f790
I don't know what you call these types of clips. There also are a few that with attachments that look like rings and I think they might be marked.

Dogleash clips aren't marked and I don't know if they make any current styles other than classics that have trigger clips, but I doubt they would be marked. There isn't enough flat area.

ETA: I found this listing which shows the kind of clip that has a logo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-ADJUS...5ff839&pid=100011&rk=6&rkt=10&sd=191585765853

 

[thecollector629]

And I'll back up the other authentications. Your Horse And Carriage bag is genuine.

As for your buyer's comments - she's wrong on every point.

Coach has been putting Made in China tags inside their Made in China bags and accessories for at least 10 years and probably more. And they actually started making bags in China some time around 1995, and accessories even earlier.

Smaller bags like Top Handles are considered accessories and some accessories have creeds and serial numbers, some just have creeds with NO numbers, and some have neither. What each accessory or bag gets it entirely up to Coach.

Sorry you got stuck with a buyer who refuses to do any research and who thinks that owning "several" of Coach's bags out of the more than THIRTY-THREE THOUSAND different purse and accessory bag style numbers currently in Coach's history and archives (and that's not counting wallets!) makes her an instant expert.

Maybe she can take over for BeenBurned and Whateve and myself and handle all these authentications at tPF too? Heaven knows we all could use a few weeks off. Yes, that was sarcasm. Maybe she also thinks that removing a splinter from someone's finger qualifies her to perform brain surgery.

My sympathies, you don't deserve that kind of buyer.

Just FYI - I sent this buyer all the info, the links, and lots of explanations.
She did not respond.
I wrote again, politely, and she did not respond.
Now after all she just left me a neutral feedback with the comment "OK".
WTF???
If she did not like the bag she could have just returned it.
WTF again
SO - happy to share her user ID so other sellers can avoid a problem "redsteph1975".

 

[thecollector629]

I recently purchased a large group of bags and thankfully they all look good to me.
But I have a couple that need a look ---
Original auction was 221753167358
Seller: pmambrose
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Of-31-Authentic-Vintage-Coach-Handbags-Great-Condition-/221753167358?

I looked up this first bag and found the style to be a "NEW BERKELY CONVERTIBLE BACKPACK" so maybe my bag was the "older" style?