Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

May I have this Convertible clutch authenticated pleaee
Link..Was a Live sale..here is the YouTube video
Seller @Itshadrian on YouTube
Comments...not sure the strap goes with the bag.




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It's genuine. You're in a better position than we are to see if the strap matches the bag. I can only say that it has the correct clips for that style.

 

[DL Harper]

Yes

Thank you. The amount of knowledge you ladies have and generously share is appreciated and amazing!

 

[Narnanz]

It's genuine. You're in a better position than we are to see if the strap matches the bag. I can only say that it has the correct clips for that style.

thank you...the leather is cracking on the strap so Im not sure...Its not a deal breaker as I have many straps I can use with it.

 

[Fiberluver]

It's an authentic Whitney bag 4115.

Hi Whateve,
Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to authenticate this bag. I ❤️ the Whitney style and am happy to add another to my collection.

Nat

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi, Would you please authenticate this. I purchased it and then saw that this seller was reported as selling fakes in the fake hall of fame.

Items: Collegiate Bag
Seller: Lorac2015
Siteoshmark

https://posh.mk/pdri64oMrhb

i cannot find a listing number on Poshmark. when I tried to cancel this order the seller told me that NYC a bags cannot be faked, so now I really don't trust.
Thano you.

ANY Coach bag can be faked, or just about any other brand as well. Just because we may not have seen examples yet doesn't mean it can't happen, or hasn't already happened.

ETA - As an example of the dangers of sellers claiming knowledge that they don't actually have, Lorac2015 claims in the listing title that the bag is from the 1970s, but the Summer 1988 catalog clearly lists that style as "NEW" which indicates a Spring or Summer 1988 introduction so maybe she might want to be more careful.

I personally won't authenticate items from that seller, so please wait for an authenticator who does.

Please don't take it personally @emilylia because it's not you. I don't authenticate that seller either.

If you search the seller's ID and history, you'll see that it's not just 1 fake that upsets us but rather, her previous posting history here, her alleged participation in several private facebook and social media groups that take great pride and joy in attacking TPF and its members and her association with other people who take even greater happiness in denigrating us.

In fact, this is a post from just a week ago about a fake she has listed. Although it's known that they read TPF and comment on what is posted (among their private groupies), the fake is still listed, potentially waiting for a buyer to be ripped off by the $165 fake.

COACH Hall of Shame - Post Coach fakes here!

Ergo Mini Zip 9020 Fake J4H Ebay Seller: seeitwinit

forum.purseblog.com

The following makes for some interesting reading:

https://forum.purseblog.com/search/806608/?q=lorac2015&t=post&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=113&o=relevance

Thank you for explaining and the background information. It explains alot and lesson learned.

In case you haven't already read all the links that BeenBurned posted from the Search for that seller's name, Lorac2015 , I'll post the one below specifically because it expands on my reasons for not authenticating items from that seller.

Not only has she posted multiple derogatory and obscene comments about tPF as well as me and other tPF members mostly on Private Facebook sites that have on occasion been opened to the public along with those disgusting posts, but she's also been reported to have engaged in actions against other tPF members that would have gotten her suspended from any legitimate selling site (such as Ebay) that cares about protecting their members not just from fakes but also from harassment or auction interference by other members.

Anyone who does that to anyone else just because of a site they belong to doesn't deserve ANY kind of approval, even if it's just confirmation of authenticity for one of their items. If someone wants to take pot shots at me, go right ahead, I consider the source and take it as a compliment. But trying to damage another seller's business for no valid reason, however twisted it might be, is disgusting and not to be tolerated, at least not by me.

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Wow, this is something. Is it purposeful inaccurate information and twisting of facts?

I just went back to look at the listing you'd asked about @emilylia and not only do I have issues with Poshmark seller LORAC2015, but in looking at the listing again, I see that she's clearly misleading or worse, lying to her potential buyers by posting misleading information.

In her statement, she MISQUOteD @whateve by falsely attributing a quote to @whateve that was NOT what was said!!

This is lorac2015's post:
lorac2015 @emilymaude1 whateve said: I can't believe that hasn't sold in 12 weeks! It's authentic. It appears to be a collegiate bag. So far I haven’t seen a fake Coach with NYC creed yet, is it safe to consider all NYC creed Vintage Coach bags most likely are authentic? Thanks.


This is actually the post (and screenshot):

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As you can see, NO one said that NYC bags weren't faked!

And although the implication per Lorac's comment is that the reference is to Lorac2015's listing, that is NOT the bag that @whateve authenticated.

 

[Hyacinth]

@emilylia and @BeenBurned-

And regarding the "information" about serial number dates that LORAC2015 claims she found in the Salearea Guides...

Why lean on the late 1970's and pretend that my slightly earlier statement in the Guides didn't exist?
"...Over the years there have been many changes to the wording, design, fonts and layout of the creed statement. In the early days they didn't even have serial numbers, these weren't used until some time in the later 1970s to early 1980s..."


Dear Carol aka lorac2015-
It's a HELLUVA lot more likely for a bag with an NYC creed and a serial number to be from the 1980s than the 1970s. And what was the publication year of the catalog photo you included in your listing? It's even a bit more recent than the one in my Summer 1988 paper catalog since not only is the Collegiate listed as "New" in Summer 1988 but the MSRP is only $106, whereas the catalog photo in the Lorac2015 listing shows an MSRP of $118, and the photo and price is EXACTLY the same as the one in the digital version of the 1989 Summer Preview catalog, which I've copied from my own digital version of the infamous DVD/bracelet/thumb drive so many of us already own. So if Lorac2015 has a copy of a page from the Summer Preview 1989 catalog showing the Collegiate, how does that jibe with it being a bag from the 1970s? And why is she trying to hint that she was misled by the Salearea Guides? If someone's going to point fingers at my research they'd bloody well better get their facts straight first.
1989 Summer Preview:


Carol's listing:

RARE VINTAGE NYC COACH COLLEGIATE BAG 70'S

Shop lorac2015's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. Hard to find, Beautiful multi pkt Vintage Coach Collegiate bag. Measures 8.25in x 6in x 3in deep & 22in adjustable shoulder strap.Has 3 slip pkts,front under flap, outside back & one...

poshmark.com

 

[Roro]

Since it's an early 1996 style and serial number, my guess is that the color is "Sea" which shows as a light grayish-green color on the early 1996 catalag pages. Most of the time the color of the creed patch or pocket in vintage bags is going to be closest to the actual color because it hasn't had a chance to fade from sunlight or to darken from conditioning or use. Always pay attention to that area, it can tell you more than just the serial number. Also note that the description says "gray FAMILY,"not just gray.

Here's a Spring 1996 catalog page showing what's probably that color on a different Sonoma style, item D. Coach did have a Grey color for that line but it was darker:
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Ok, I'm just going to admit this. I had NO idea why the seller said 'family' in the listing. Once again, I saw what I wanted to see. Love the level headed ladies here who keep us all on track.

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

Hello would you please authenticate this bag from seller dressforless98? The bag measures https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Red-Legacy-Duffle-Bag-5d5619d8abe1cec45f8c8793. Thank you

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello would you please authenticate this bag from seller dressforless98? The bag measures https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Red-Legacy-Duffle-Bag-5d5619d8abe1cec45f8c8793. Thank you

$2500?!?!?!?

I know we don't usually comment on price and in our society, sellers can charge whatever they want, but IMO, no bag is worth that kind of money!

It's authentic and made in 1994.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello would you please authenticate this bag from seller dressforless98? The bag measures https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Red-Legacy-Duffle-Bag-5d5619d8abe1cec45f8c8793. Thank you

$2500?!?!?!?

I know we don't usually comment on price and in our society, sellers can charge whatever they want, but IMO, no bag is worth that kind of money!

It's authentic and made in 1994.

HOOOOO-LEEEEEE-CWAP.

I agree with BeenBurned. I probably wouldn't pay one-tenth of that price. And I wouldn't deal with anyone who listed a price like that even as a joke.

I'm also wondering who did the "free authentication". If it's by Poshmark, we already know what their "free authentications over $500" are worth, I don't care how many "sweethearts" someone tosses at me.

Posh Authenticate - Poshmark

poshmark.com

BTW, it's NOT a Legacy anything or a Limited Edition of ANY kind.

 

[whateve]

$2500?!?!?!?

I know we don't usually comment on price and in our society, sellers can charge whatever they want, but IMO, no bag is worth that kind of money!

It's authentic and made in 1994.

Several of her items are very high priced so I don't think it is a mistake.

 

[Ruby000]

Can someone please help me verify if this bag is authentic? Thank you!
Item:Coach Tabby - White
Serial number: No. K-1677-F59588
Seller and site where listed: Mercari - (seller: Lorraine)
Link:https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m83069227793/?iv_code=XPAMTR&object_id=m83069227793&object_type=item
Comments: Zipper says Coach -NY.

 

[Natalia_L]

Would you kindly take a look at this.

Vintage coach Red Cross body
seller 4 seasons apparel
Site mercari
https://merc.li/vw2xCDcKb

 

[Roro]

Hello would you please authenticate this bag from seller dressforless98? The bag measures https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Red-Legacy-Duffle-Bag-5d5619d8abe1cec45f8c8793. Thank you

$2500?!?!?!?

I know we don't usually comment on price and in our society, sellers can charge whatever they want, but IMO, no bag is worth that kind of money!

It's authentic and made in 1994.

Several of her items are very high priced so I don't think it is a mistake.

I followed this bag on ebay for a long time. About two years ago. Wonder why she still has it????

 

[Roro]

Love this color. Real? or not real? (channeling Howie Mandel here)

Helen's Legacy (9953) in lime green

Vintage Lime Green Leather Coach Bucket Bag 9953 Legacy - Etsy

Vintage brown leather Coach bucket bag, Helen’s Legacy Duffle Bag | vintage Coach 100% AUTHENTIC Preowned EXCELLENT VTG condition Serial number: H3L~ 9993 lime green Genuine leather Detachable crossbody strap Zip-top closure, fabric lining Detachable crossbody / shoulder strap no lining / Exposed

www.etsy.com

seller: SamiranaTreasures
No apparent item number on etsy.

Thank you in advance, great authenticators!