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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
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    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
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BeenBurned said:
I've never seen them but I think it's strange that they call the style number 245 when the bag is clearly 9085!
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I'm wondering if each tag is given an individual style number so they can trace them in their records. I wish we could see more of the tags abn=nd creeds on those refurbished pieces!

I'm also wondering if they're modifying the stamped serial number by changing the month code to "X". That creed and serial seem genuine but the X doesn't make sense unless it was re-stamped to mark the refurbished bags. It doesn't look like the month code was restamped, but it's possible. Unless they found the old retired stamps from the right time period and restamped both of them. The creed on that one does look pretty low on the pocket.
 
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I'm also seeing an issue. More than one, actually. I don't believe it's genuine either. The leathers in that inside panel with the creed may look the same in bright light but the pictures above show a difference of some kind, maybe the texture or dyeing process was different for each batch of leathers used on that panel, the pocket and the patch.

Please also note that the white one you compared it to on Etsy has totally different interior details. The white bag has two interior pockets but both are the same size and construction AND both have top zippers right underneath that wide-ish strip of folded-over leather that forms the top edge of the bag. Neither of the pockets in the tan one match the apparently genuine one on Etsy. They're not even close. Here are your photos again if you need another look:

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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There's no way that can be authenticated. If we can't prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that it was made by Coach, we can't affirm that it's genuine. Anyone who does, doesn't deserve to call themselves a qualified authenticator, they're just telling the customer what they want to hear and taking their money. It wouldn't be the first time a fairly good copy was "returned" to a Coach store for a refund, sometimes even with a genuine Coach creed stamp that was cut from a genuine bag and sewn into the fake. Unfortunately the policy of Coach and almost all other retailers is to give the customer a refund even if there is a question about the item's authenticity, just to keep the customer happy. It's what the "switchers" count on.

I have a fake of a "Willis" that's so close to Coach quality that it would probably fool most authenticators, just like it did me more than ten years ago when I didn't recognise two problems that hadn't even been noted or mentioned in any posts yet. i was the first person to realise it had a fake serial number when I found another bag on Ebay with the same number. The tan tote even has a similar non-serial number problem as my fake.
 
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Hyacinth said:
I'm also seeing an issue. More than one, actually. I don't believe it's genuine either. And the leathers in that inside panel with the creed may look the same in bright light but the pictures above show a difference of some kind, maybe the texture or dyeing process was different for each batch of leathers used on that panel, the pocket and the patch.

Please also note that the white one you compared it to on Etsy has totally different interior details. The white bag has two interior pockets but both are the same size and construction AND both have top zippers right underneath that wide-ish strip of folded-over leather that forms the top edge of the bag. Neither of the pockets in the tan one match the apparently genuine one on Etsy. They're not even close. Here are your photos again if you need another look:

Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

IMPORTANT READ-ME Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please. For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread. Please follow the following requests: Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this...
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There's no way that can be authenticated. If we can't prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that it was made by Coach, we can't affirm that it's genuine. Anyone who does, doesn't deserve to call themselves a qualified authenticator, they're just telling the customer what they want to hear and taking their money. It wouldn't be the first time a fairly good copy was "returned" to a Coach store for a refund, sometimes even with a genuine Coach creed stamp that was cut from a genuine bag and sewn into the fake. Unfortunately the policy of Coach and almost all other retailers is to give the customer a refund even if there is a question about the item's authenticity, just to keep the customer happy. It's what the "switchers" count on.
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Interesting. Thank you
 
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Hyacinth said:
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I'm wondering if each tag is given an individual style number so they can trace them in their records. I wish we could see more of the tags abn=nd creeds on those refurbished pieces!

I'm also wondering if they're modifying the stamped serial number by changing the month code to "X". That creed and serial seem genuine but the X doesn't make sense unless it was re-stamped to mark the refurbished bags. It doesn't look like the month code was restamped, but it's possible. Unless they found the old retired stamps from the right time period and restamped both of them. The creed on that one does look pretty low on the pocket.
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Hmm. I looked at the creed before posting and agree it seems good. I'd read the month code as "K" though I looked again after your post and it sure does look like X. It doesn't look altered to me either and I wonder if it's really a K and lighting/angle make it look like X.(I've seen that happen on genuine bag creeds with the markings and wrinkles looking like they say "marxings" and "wrinxles".)
 
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Farlynn said:
Please authenticate:

FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
Item: Coach Ergo handbag shoulderbag
$37 $54
Listing number: m37157746408
Seller and site where listed: Seller shopdiva and site mercari
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m37157746408/
Comments: This bag rounds up my shopping therapy session. Thanks!
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I apologize because your post was missed. My lame excuse is that we've been away for the past 11 days and just returned last night. During our travels, I had limited posting and computer time. Sometimes, even when I wanted to be online, we were in isolated areas of the Idaho Rockies without any service! OMG! How did we used to survive?!?!?

Now my body has to readjust and get used to daylight savings!

The pleated Ergo bag on Mercari is authentic and was made in 2010.
 
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Hyacinth said:
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I'm wondering if each tag is given an individual style number so they can trace them in their records. I wish we could see more of the tags abn=nd creeds on those refurbished pieces!

I'm also wondering if they're modifying the stamped serial number by changing the month code to "X". That creed and serial seem genuine but the X doesn't make sense unless it was re-stamped to mark the refurbished bags. It doesn't look like the month code was restamped, but it's possible. Unless they found the old retired stamps from the right time period and restamped both of them. The creed on that one does look pretty low on the pocket.
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BeenBurned said:
Hmm. I looked at the creed before posting and agree it seems good. I'd read the month code as "K" though I looked again after your post and it sure does look like X. It doesn't look altered to me either and I wonder if it's really a K and lighting/angle make it look like X.(I've seen that happen on genuine bag creeds with the markings and wrinkles looking like they say "marxings" and "wrinxles".)
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I've seen the X and K confusion with "marxings" too and always try to see the letter in question both ways to make sure my brain isn't playing tricks on me, but this seems different. I'm seeing 2 diagonal lines like on the left half of an X on the left half of the letter in the photo.

And I found 2 Completed listings with K5D- prefixes, and it doesn't seem like a K from that plant and year could ever be mistaken for anything else.

Refurbished X or K5d-9085:
www.ebay.com

Rare SOLD OUT Coach Original Duffle 15 Bag Mahogany Glovetanned Leather ~ New | eBay

Glovetanned soft leather. Color is mahogany with brass tone hardware. Coach bag charm. This bag is rare and sold out fast. Interior is leather and a soft fabric. Leather adjustable shoulder strap with 15 1/2" strap drop.
www.ebay.com
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compared to an apparently genuine K5D-9952:
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and a K5D-9984 Bixby Sling, thumbnail

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I think regardless of what that letter may or may not have been originally, it's an "X" now.
 
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BeenBurned said:
I apologize because your post was missed. My lame excuse is that we've been away for the past 11 days and just returned last night. During our travels, I had limited posting and computer time. Sometimes, even when I wanted to be online, we were in isolated areas of the Idaho Rockies without any service! OMG! How did we used to survive?!?!?

Now my body has to readjust and get used to daylight savings!

The pleated Ergo bag on Mercari is authentic and was made in 2010.
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Thank you! :woot:
 
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Dear authenticators, a request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: Ergo
Where purchased or how obtained; thrift store
Comments: Ergos seem to be popular at this moment and I realised I had one. Dimensions are almost 9" height, 10" width at bottom and 12" width at top, 3" depth. I purchased this Ergo, I believe before I knew about tpf so I do not believe I had it authenticated here and I am unable to find any authentication in "my content". Pardon if it was already authenticated. Thank you!



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Jacynthe said:
Dear authenticators, a request to authenticate please. Thank you!

Item: Ergo
Where purchased or how obtained; thrift store
Comments: Ergos seem to be popular at this moment and I realised I had one. Dimensions are almost 9" height, 10" width at bottom and 12" width at top, 3" depth. I purchased this Ergo, I believe before I knew about tpf so I do not believe I had it authenticated here and I am unable to find any authentication in "my content". Pardon if it was already authenticated. Thank you!



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Genuine Ergo Pocket Zip, 1997
 
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