Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Gaby Torres]

It's genuine, but with outlet styles there's often no way to find their name. It was made in 2013. I found one with a price tag and a bag sticker but the name is all abbreviated - "SIS 6CM RPS DMI CRSB". "Signature Stripe" I can get and 6cm and Crossbody I can get but "RPS DMI" is a mystery. "Demi" maybe? "RPS"? No idea.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Purs...819162?hash=item2b02fe611a:g:PG4AAOSwhHJgRqdT

Thank you for the info and help.

 

[Yvonne9321]

Dear Authenticators,
Could you help me authenticate this vintage Coach bag?
Item: Vintage Coach Elliot Sheridan
Seller and site where listed: Maggie on Mercari
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m49133460421/
Comments: The seller listed it as a Willis, but I think it's a Elliot Sheridan. The creed number of it is 1140-421. I learned from Hyacinth's thread that such format of creed was used during 1989-1994. Just out of curiosity: Is it possible to tell which year it's produced? Thank you in advance! I really appreciate it!

 

[Rookie vintage collected]

Welcome!

The bag in question is authentic but fabulousfloral does have a bit of history and in fact, this is a post from recently:

COACH Hall of Shame - Post Coach fakes here!

I believe this seller is selling fakes or is a scam. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Womens-Real-Leather-Shoulder-Satchel-Crossbody-Tabby-Handbag-Bags-Purse/373475530066 My reasoning: Has multiples of the same bag ( "5 available") Based in the US but the shipping is from Hong Kong? I...

forum.purseblog.com

Thank you for taking the time to reply! I appreciate your knowledge and info on this !

 

[Hyacinth]

Dear Authenticators,
Could you help me authenticate this vintage Coach bag?
Item: Vintage Coach Elliot Sheridan
Seller and site where listed: Maggie on Mercari
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m49133460421/
Comments: The seller listed it as a Willis, but I think it's a Elliot Sheridan. The creed number of it is 1140-421. I learned from Hyacinth's thread that such format of creed was used during 1989-1994. Just out of curiosity: Is it possible to tell which year it's produced? Thank you in advance! I really appreciate it!

Genuine Sheridan Elliot Bag style 4235, but it's almost impossible to pin an all-number serial number down to an exact year. My best guess would be 1992-93.

 

[katpeony]

Thank you Hyacinth for your replies! Have a Happy Easter everyone!

 

[potatopearbeet]

Hello!

Thinking about acquiring a nice sturdy vintage bag. Am considering the following:

Vintage Coach Bonnie Cashin Original City Bag Mahogany Red NYCity Pretty!! | eBay

A Bonnie Cashin Project Start To Finish When She Started Working With Coach In The Late 60s. #938-1235 Made In New York City In The Original Coach Factory. With Coach Logo And Creed. Inside The Roomy Main Section Of The Bag Is A Full Size Leather Zip Pocket.

www.ebay.com

Site: Ebay
Seller:Skyestudios
Listing number: 143953987238

HOT Vtg 70s COACH NYC Cashin Shouldr Purse Penny City Bag Clutch Chestnut PATINA | eBay

All Natural Glove Tanned Cowhide- in rich natural shade Chestnut Brown/ Tabac. Detachable shoulder strap with "crab claw" hardware. Another special feature- it is an older kind with the Anchor stamp inside the claw.

www.ebay.com

Site: Ebay
Seller: Trilisnik
Listing number: 402307370347

or

Vintage Coach Purse - Bonnie Cashin - NYC - 70s Bag | eBay

Authentic very rare original Coach bag from when legendary designer Bonnie Cashin was at Coach in 1970 here in New York City! This is the highly sought after baseball glove tanned leather. Versatile bag that has a wristlet strap so it can be carried as a clutch.

www.ebay.com

Site: Ebay
Seller: hochs1313
Listing number: 143535572190

Any insight about whether they are authentic?

Thanks!

 

[Cate103]

Hi everyone,
Happy Easter! Could I check this Wendie?
Name: Wendie
Seller: shaunasilver
Item number:264906626177
Link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264906626177
Thank you!

 

[emotionalbaggagevintage]

Feel free to refer emotionalbaggageto if she needs information about her fake bag.

Hey~ Shop owner at emotional baggage here..

This thread was sent to me and I feel very hurt. To see this withought me having a chance to defend myself or make this right and instead bashed online is very upsetting.

I struggle with anxiety and depression and this store has given me so much purpose and happiness. Reading these comments.. was very hard for me.

I do not have a business of selling counterfeit items and am a super small online store. So sometimes small things fall through the cracks. However I did list on both my sites in the title that it is awaiting authentication. I did believe it to be real and am going to have it appraised in person by my local consigner first thing tomorrow as I had planned.

Should my sources reveal it is a fake I’ll be pricing it accordingly.

It’s still an amazing bag! I am also fairly new to the business of selling vintage online and still have some learning to do when it comes to designer goods.

I know that the purpose of this site is to educate people on product.. however I feel more bullied than educated on this. I had hoped that this site would be more helpful than hurtful.

I lost my job recently and am struggling to get by. I’ve put a lot of work into my online store and it means a lot to me, so I hope you can all be kind and help me to make this right.

 

[sten624]

Hello everyone! New to this forum and Coach bags in general, so hoping someone could help me authenticate this:

Item: Not sure - listed as "Vintage Coach tan crossbody saddle bag 1980's" Maybe a Devon from what I was able to find? serial Number 0185-321
Seller: bestseller1111
Site: Poshmark
Link: https://poshmark.ca/listing/Vintage-Coach-tan-crossbody-saddle-bag-1980s-60676a892f3d19e64e4904e9

Hope I've formatted correctly, Happy Easter and thanks so much in advance!

 

[LadaZuri]

@Hyacinth I've sent you a PM.

Happy Easter All!!!

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi everyone,
Happy Easter! Could I check this Wendie?
Name: Wendie
Seller: shaunasilver
Item number:264906626177
Link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264906626177
Thank you!

It’s fine.

 

[Cate103]

It’s fine.

Thank you!

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

Hi would you please authenticate this bag I got from the Consignment shop? It measures about 13" x 14" thank you

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello!

Thinking about acquiring a nice sturdy vintage bag. Am considering the following:

Vintage Coach Bonnie Cashin Original City Bag Mahogany Red NYCity Pretty!! | eBay

A Bonnie Cashin Project Start To Finish When She Started Working With Coach In The Late 60s. #938-1235 Made In New York City In The Original Coach Factory. With Coach Logo And Creed. Inside The Roomy Main Section Of The Bag Is A Full Size Leather Zip Pocket.

www.ebay.com

Site: Ebay
Seller:Skyestudios
Listing number: 143953987238

HOT Vtg 70s COACH NYC Cashin Shouldr Purse Penny City Bag Clutch Chestnut PATINA | eBay

All Natural Glove Tanned Cowhide- in rich natural shade Chestnut Brown/ Tabac. Detachable shoulder strap with "crab claw" hardware. Another special feature- it is an older kind with the Anchor stamp inside the claw.

www.ebay.com

Site: Ebay
Seller: Trilisnik
Listing number: 402307370347

or

Vintage Coach Purse - Bonnie Cashin - NYC - 70s Bag | eBay

Authentic very rare original Coach bag from when legendary designer Bonnie Cashin was at Coach in 1970 here in New York City! This is the highly sought after baseball glove tanned leather. Versatile bag that has a wristlet strap so it can be carried as a clutch.

www.ebay.com

Site: Ebay
Seller: hochs1313
Listing number: 143535572190

Any insight about whether they are authentic?

Thanks!

Once again we have to warn posters, old or new, that just because a seller claims a bag is "Bonnie Cashin" or a Cashin design, that doesn't mean it's true! At least 80 percent and probably more of the listings using "Cashin" in them are NOT Cashin designs and sometimes are separated by a decade or more from the time she was actually designing for Coach. Anyone looking for a genuine Cashin design or a bag with a real Cashin connection should always ask here or at the Vintage Photos and Chat subforum in the main Coach forum before spending extra money just because of a name a seller puts in a listing.


As for the bags being authenticated:

1- genuine City Bag 9790 but NOT FROM THE "1968-1970s " period as the seller " Skyestudios " claims, and AFAIK there's no proof that Cashin had anything to do with the design of the City Bag. At the same time that Cashin was designing for Coach, 1962 to 1974, Coach had their own in-house designer(s) and at least 10 regular bag styles that were from the in-house team, NOT BC.

Not only is the bag probably not a Cashin design SINCE IT WASN'T EVEN INTRODUCED UNTIL 1987, 13 YEARS AFTER CASHIN AND COACH PARTED COMPANY, but it definitely was NOT made in the "1968-1970s" period as is claimed in the listing. Whether the seller is simply misinformed about Coach history or actually thinks that's it's OK to slap a layer of pretty embroidery on historical fact, s/he is way off base on this one. The bag WAS made in NYC like it says on the creed, but it was made in 1987 or early 1988.

2- genuine, probably a 9635 Convertible Clutch and from the early to mid-1980s. The style itself goes back into the 1970s but serial numbers were probably an early 1980s addition although the dates are uncertain. Again, NOT a Penny, or a Pocket Purse, and no proof that Cashin had any hand in the design. Just because it uses a turnlock does NOT mean that Cashin was the birth mother or even the midwife of a Coach handbag.

3- Genuine Basic Bag 9455, Again, the style goes back at least to the mid-1970s but this particular one was made in the early to mid 1980s based on the serial number. And again, there's no proof that Cashin had anything to do with the design. Genuine Cashin designs jump out from the printed page and smack you right between the eyes.


(Rant over ...)

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi would you please authenticate this bag I got from the Consignment shop? It measures about 13" x 14" thank you

Is it possible to get a better photo of the creed and serial number? Please take it in Landscape mode and maybe it will be easier to read it and fit it completely into the photo if it's photographed horizontally.