Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

I stand corrected. Thank you, Hyacinth. I thought the plant code below the creed should have been a letter, not the number "3".

One of the Turkey plants was using a number "2" plant code as early as 1996. And China has used other numbers as plant codes.

Please read the six Salearea Guides pinned to the index pages of this subforum.

 

[Farza]

CAN SOMEONE AUTHENTICATE PLEASE

Hi, I am new here , I want to know if the coach I bought online is a real one. The seller claims it is a real coach.

Coach Bag
Height: 22cm
Width: 19 cm
1 front pocket with closure

Seller name: framboise3375

Listing :

Bolsos de hombro | Mujer - Vinted

¡Actualiza tu Bolsos de hombro y tu armario en Vinted! Ahorra hasta un 80% en Bolsos de hombro y prendas de segunda mano para completar tu estilo.

www.vinted.es

 

[lovefancydream]

Hi Authenticators!
I found this coach bag from a local seller, I think it's fake but the seller doesn't admit it. Could u please help me confirm that?
Thank u so much!

Item: coach 9826 navy blue bag

Comments: I think it looks totally fake even without the creed photo, the entire shape is wrong but the seller said she purchase it from a vintage store in Japan so it can't be a fake one.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi Authenticators!
I found this coach bag from a local seller, I think it's fake but the seller doesn't admit it. Could u please help me confirm that?
Thank u so much!

Item: coach 9826 navy blue bag
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Comments: I think it looks totally fake even without the creed photo, the entire shape is wrong but the seller said she purchase it from a vintage store in Japan so it can't be a fake one.

Where are you seeing the "9826" number? If there's a serial number and creed stamp inside, we need a clear readable photo of it.And I need a clear readable photo of any stampings on the magnetic snap shown in the last photo, the stamping isn't visible with the light hitting it head on. Unless it's the base of a Springlock, I can't tell from the photo. The part under the flap looks like a magnetic snap but there's a springlock on the flap - which does it have? The springlock also looks slightly different from the ones Coach used.

People used to think that stores and sellers in Japan are automatically trustworthy. Absolutely not! We've seen high volume Japanese seller repeatedly listing fakes, especially Korean-made fakes, even after Ebay has removed them at least once. And there's a HUGE volume of modern counterfeit Coach items currently being sold all over the planet by sellers claiming to be located in Japan because sellers from that country used to be considered trustworthy. That's no longer the case.


Read this thread about the fakes-selling ring apparently using Japan as their base. We just found another bag they probably sold just in the last 2 weeks.

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

As for the bag you're asking about - the hangtag concerns me and so do the metal rings around the ends of the strap and those oddly curved belt loops. But I want to see the magnetic snap(?) and whatever the creed and serial number say. The irregular color is also a problem, Coach never did irridescent colors (if that's what it is) on vintage bags.

ETA - I'm modifying my comment and just calling it an outright FAKE for now. That bag has one detail that would never be found in a genuine style 9826 according to my files. Again, I still want to see those photos of the snap, if that's what it is, and the creed and serial.

EETA - More comments and photos - this is a GENUINE 9826 Mini Belt Bag. Notice the shape of the belt loops and the fact that there is NO center seam on the base of the bag, look at the photo of the inside of the red one. I also have photos of a fake with that incorrect center seam and an always-fake "J8Y-" serial number prefix. Does the serial number in yours happen to be J8Y- too?

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Get your money back if you can.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi Authenticators!
I found this coach bag from a local seller, I think it's fake but the seller doesn't admit it. Could u please help me confirm that?
Thank u so much!

Item: coach 9826 navy blue bag
View attachment 5022144View attachment 5022146View attachment 5022147
Comments: I think it looks totally fake even without the creed photo, the entire shape is wrong but the seller said she purchase it from a vintage store in Japan so it can't be a fake one.

You edited your post but my email notification showed your original comment of, "I think it looks totally fake even without the creed photo, the entire shape is wrong but the seller said she purchase it from a vintage store in Japan so it can't be a fake one."

That an item was purchased from a Japanese seller or from a store in Japan has NOTHING to do with authenticity and although Japan (supposely) has very strict laws around the sale of counterfeit items, I've seen more fakes than I can count from Japanese sellers on ebay and on other sites. And the Japanese sellers' fakes aren't limited to items from a particular era, i.e., vintage or newer, preowned or unused.

In fact, I have a long separate thread in the Coach shopping subforum that issues a warning of caution when buying new Coach items:

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

And the Hall of Shame thread has 3 pages (so far) of posts of fakes from Japanese sellers:

https://forum.purseblog.com/search/580937/?q=japanese&t=post&c[thread]=824098&o=relevance

So the seller's claim that it has to be authentic because it came from Japan is nonsense!

Please request (at the very least) a picture of the creed from the bag.

ETA: @Hyacinth beat me!

Hyacinth, I htink you misunderstood the poster. She thinks it's fake. It's the seller claiming authenticity because the seller purchased from Japna.

ETA: Again: If the bag is being sold online, PLEASE post a link!

 

[Farza]

CAN SOMEONE AUTHENTICATE PLEASE

Coach Signature File Bag Crossbody Purse
No. L0767-40688

Height: 22cm
Width: 19 cm
1 front pocket with closure

Seller name:framboise3375

Link:

Bolsos de hombro | Mujer - Vinted

¡Actualiza tu Bolsos de hombro y tu armario en Vinted! Ahorra hasta un 80% en Bolsos de hombro y prendas de segunda mano para completar tu estilo.

www.vinted.es

 

[Hyacinth]

You edited your post but my email notification showed your original comment of, "I think it looks totally fake even without the creed photo, the entire shape is wrong but the seller said she purchase it from a vintage store in Japan so it can't be a fake one."

That an item was purchased from a Japanese seller or from a store in Japan has NOTHING to do with authenticity and although Japan (supposely) has very strict laws around the sale of counterfeit items, I've seen more fakes than I can count from Japanese sellers on ebay and on other sites. And the Japanese sellers' fakes aren't limited to items from a particular era, i.e., vintage or newer, preowned or unused.

In fact, I have a long separate thread in the Coach shopping subforum that issues a warning of caution when buying new Coach items:

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

And the Hall of Shame thread has 3 pages (so far) of posts of fakes from Japanese sellers:

https://forum.purseblog.com/search/580937/?q=japanese&t=post&c[thread]=824098&o=relevance

So the seller's claim that it has to be authentic because it came from Japan is nonsense!

Please request (at the very least) a picture of the creed from the bag.

ETA: @Hyacinth beat me!

Hyacinth, I htink you misunderstood the poster. She thinks it's fake. It's the seller claiming authenticity because the seller purchased from Japna.

ETA: Again: If the bag is being sold online, PLEASE post a link!

Yes, I had to make some corrections to my post (quite a few corrections in fact) because once again I'm trying to do too many things at once and misread her post. I THINK I've got everything straightened out now. Apologies all around if I still misunderstood something.

 

[BeenBurned]

Yes, I had to make some corrections to my post (quite a few corrections in fact) because once again I'm trying to do too many things at once and misread her post. I THINK I've got everything straightened out now. Apologies all around if I still misunderstood something.

Yup, I made several corrections and edits too! Between not having enough coffee, losing an hour sleep (because of DST) and the dog deciding that I didn't need to sleep as late as I wanted, I didn't do too well either!

 

[lovefancydream]

Where are you seeing the "9826" number? If there's a serial number and creed stamp inside, we need a clear readable photo of it.And I need a clear readable photo of any stampings on the magnetic snap shown in the last photo, the stamping isn't visible with the light hitting it head on. Unless it's the base of a Springlock, I can't tell from the photo. The part under the flap looks like a magnetic snap but there's a springlock on the flap - which does it have? The springlock also looks slightly different from the ones Coach used.

People used to think that stores and sellers in Japan are automatically trustworthy. Absolutely not! We've seen high volume Japanese seller repeatedly listing fakes, especially Korean-made fakes, even after Ebay has removed them at least once. And there's a HUGE volume of modern counterfeit Coach items currently being sold all over the planet by sellers claiming to be located in Japan because sellers from that country used to be considered trustworthy. That's no longer the case.


Read this thread about the fakes-selling ring apparently using Japan as their base. We just found another bag they probably sold just in the last 2 weeks.

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

As for the bag you're asking about - the hangtag concerns me and so do the metal rings around the ends of the strap and those oddly curved belt loops. But I want to see the magnetic snap(?) and whatever the creed and serial number say. The irregular color is also a problem, Coach never did irridescent colors (if that's what it is) on vintage bags.

ETA - I'm modifying my comment and just calling it an outright FAKE for now. That bag has one detail that would never be found in a genuine style 9826 according to my files. Again, I still want to see those photos of the snap, if that's what it is, and the creed and serial.

EETA - More comments and photos - this is a GENUINE 9826 Mini Belt Bag. Notice the shape of the belt loops and the fact that there is NO center seam on the base of the bag, look at the photo of the inside of the red one. I also have photos of a fake with that incorrect center seam and an always-fake "J8Y-" serial number prefix. Does the serial number in yours happen to be J8Y- too?

Click on the thumbnails to enlarge


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Get your money back if you can.

Hi Hyacinth, I didn't bought this bag, I just looked through this seller's sold post and found out this should be a fake. I asked for more photos but she block me so I am sorry I don't have any update creed photo, as for the spring lock, here is the spring lock photo she posted, I definitely think this is fake and I ve bought a fake 9826 bag looks exactly like this one! just like u said, that back curved strap, the middle center seam, all these part looks weird, I pointed out but she don't think I am qualified for authenticate coach bag so I came here for experts' confirmations. Thank u so much for ur detailed explanations !
have a good weekend!

 

[lovefancydream]

You edited your post but my email notification showed your original comment of, "I think it looks totally fake even without the creed photo, the entire shape is wrong but the seller said she purchase it from a vintage store in Japan so it can't be a fake one."

That an item was purchased from a Japanese seller or from a store in Japan has NOTHING to do with authenticity and although Japan (supposely) has very strict laws around the sale of counterfeit items, I've seen more fakes than I can count from Japanese sellers on ebay and on other sites. And the Japanese sellers' fakes aren't limited to items from a particular era, i.e., vintage or newer, preowned or unused.

In fact, I have a long separate thread in the Coach shopping subforum that issues a warning of caution when buying new Coach items:

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

And the Hall of Shame thread has 3 pages (so far) of posts of fakes from Japanese sellers:

https://forum.purseblog.com/search/580937/?q=japanese&t=post&c[thread]=824098&o=relevance

So the seller's claim that it has to be authentic because it came from Japan is nonsense!

Please request (at the very least) a picture of the creed from the bag.

ETA: @Hyacinth beat me!

Hyacinth, I htink you misunderstood the poster. She thinks it's fake. It's the seller claiming authenticity because the seller purchased from Japna.

ETA: Again: If the bag is being sold online, PLEASE post a link!

Hi BeenBurned,
thank u so much for ur reply! I totally agree with u that from Japan can't prove anything and this seller is not selling online so there is no link, just a little disappointed why the seller are not willing to learn things before selling fake bags. Thank u again for ur help

 

[Hyacinth]

CAN SOMEONE AUTHENTICATE PLEASE

Coach Signature File Bag Crossbody Purse
No. L0767-40688

Height: 22cm
Width: 19 cm
1 front pocket with closure

Seller name:framboise3375

Link:

Bolsos de hombro | Mujer - Vinted

¡Actualiza tu Bolsos de hombro y tu armario en Vinted! Ahorra hasta un 80% en Bolsos de hombro y prendas de segunda mano para completar tu estilo.

www.vinted.es

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Genuine and made in 2007. From the measurements, strap and trim details I believe it's a Hamptons or Legacy Signature Swingpack, not a File Bag, but I can't find any for sale that still have their price tags with the style name. File Bags are usually wider.

 

[Narnanz]

May I have this Coach Bleecker looked at please
Link https://designerwardrobe.co.nz/list...er-square-shoulder-bag-on-wide-shoulder-strap
Seller UI U at Designer Wardrobe
Comments ..the creed is upside down so I put it right side up for you here.....Or I would if the site would let me load it up....arrr..there it is.

 

[katherinetl]

Hi Authenticators! Could anyone please authenticate these 2 bags for me? I would really like to get one of these 9085 bags but am worried about counterfeits.

Item: COACH XL bucket original black leather duffle feed tote bag
Seller:RetroChicBags
Site where listed: Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-COACH...146682?hash=item5dc5b8463a:g:cmgAAOSwSwBgTn8J

Item: COACH Vintage Duffle Feed Sac Leather Shoulder Bucket Bag Black H6D 9085 USA
Seller: kanda_hobby_store
Site where listed: Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vint...Coach&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851#viTabs_0

Thank you kindly!

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi Authenticators! Could anyone please authenticate these 2 bags for me? I would really like to get one of these 9085 bags but am worried about counterfeits.

Item: COACH XL bucket original black leather duffle feed tote bag
Seller:RetroChicBags
Site where listed: Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nice-COACH...146682?hash=item5dc5b8463a:g:cmgAAOSwSwBgTn8J

Item: COACH Vintage Duffle Feed Sac Leather Shoulder Bucket Bag Black H6D 9085 USA
Seller: kanda_hobby_store
Site where listed: Ebay
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Vintage-Duffle-Feed-Sac-Leather-Shoulder-Bucket-Bag-Black-H6D-9085-USA/233923439226?_trkparms=aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20201210111314&meid=acc549dac46949fabcd33d8a3d488207&pid=101195&rk=2&rkt=12&mehot=pf&sd=254698816012&itm=233923439226&pmt=1&noa=0&pg=2047675&algv=SimplAMLv9PairwiseUnbiasedWeb&brand=Coach&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851#viTabs_0

Thank you kindly!

The bags shown in both listings are authentic.

 

[BeenBurned]

May I have this Coach Bleecker looked at please
Link https://designerwardrobe.co.nz/list...er-square-shoulder-bag-on-wide-shoulder-strap
Seller UI U at Designer Wardrobe
Comments ..the creed is upside down so I put it right side up for you here.....Or I would if the site would let me load it up....arrr..there it is.View attachment 5022487

Authentic.