Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Crystalcoach]

Good morning! I'm requesting help with verifying the authenticity of this bag, please:

Item: 1941 collection saddle bag 18
Listing #: 6MnN39BZb
Seller/site: Kimberly Cavanagh on Mercari
Link: https://merc.li/6MnN39BZb

Thank you in advance!

 

[Hyacinth]

Here is another consignment item I’d like to verify before listing.

Genuine Madison Phoebe Shoulder Bag from 2013

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi Authenticator! As always you are appreciated! I have this coach bag that I got on consignment and I want to make sure it’s real before I post it on eBay. Please see attached photos. Thank you in advance!

Genuine, but I don't know the name, probably one of the many Hamptons Totes and made in 2006

 

[Handbaglady284]

Good Afternoon,

I've found posts of the bags, please are you able to authenticate using these:

Item:Coach Dumbo Camera Bag Japan Special Edition
Seller/site: Username Beautiforall on Vinted
Link: https://www.vinted.co.uk/women/handbags/24466188-coach-shoulder-bag-japan-special-edition

Item:Coach Grace Bag
Seller/site: Username 1981Candice on Vinted
Link: https://www.vinted.co.uk/women/handbags/23286102-coach-handbag

Thank you

 

[BeenBurned]

Good Afternoon,

I've found posts of the bags, please are you able to authenticate using these:

Item:Coach Dumbo Camera Bag Japan Special Edition
Seller/site: Username Beautiforall on Vinted
Link: https://www.vinted.co.uk/women/handbags/24466188-coach-shoulder-bag-japan-special-edition

Item:Coach Grace Bag
Seller/site: Username 1981Candice on Vinted
Link: https://www.vinted.co.uk/women/handbags/23286102-coach-handbag

Thank you

I have a couple of comments.

I can't view entire listings on Vinted because the site requires me to make an account and relinquish privacy. Without logging in, I can't see full pictures or listings.


I strongly recommend avoiding any bags from any sellers who claim items are "Japanese special edition." From what I've seen and continue to see, all are fake. (ETA: Beware also of the Japanese sellers who use "Collaboration" in their titles and descriptions.)

In fact, about 2 years ago, I posted this thread as a warning. I'd been seeing hundreds of listings of fakes from Coach 1941 collection, NASA, Disney and other popular licensed character collections from Japanese sellers.

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

Although the thread hasn't been updated with seller IDs, the fraud continues. (It was and continues to be so rampant that I couldn't keep up.)

In a quick ebay search, I found these listings of fakes. I expect that any other listings from the same sellers will be fakes also.
1. shop-used-in-japan - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Dumb...041741?hash=item596619944d:g:BJsAAOSwYvpgL2vO
2. Same pictures as above but different seller ID mireajujapan: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Disn...518704?hash=item5247c6a3f0:g:-zQAAOSwUJtgLeqY
3. tokky-plus - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Disney-coa...199632?hash=item1cfc31b250:g:BKYAAOSwdHlf2sN2

My recommendation for buying Disney or other lines of highly and well-faked newer bags is to either buy directly from Coach (make sure the site is really Coach) or from trusted sellers known.

 

[Handbaglady284]

I have a couple of comments.

I can't view entire listings on Vinted because the site requires me to make an account and relinquish privacy. Without logging in, I can't see full pictures or listings.


I strongly recommend avoiding any bags from any sellers who claim items are "Japanese special edition." From what I've seen and continue to see, all are fake. (ETA: Beware also of the Japanese sellers who use "Collaboration" in their titles and descriptions.)

In fact, about 2 years ago, I posted this thread as a warning. I'd been seeing hundreds of listings of fakes from Coach 1941 collection, NASA, Disney and other popular licensed character collections from Japanese sellers.

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

Although the thread hasn't been updated with seller IDs, the fraud continues. (It was and continues to be so rampant that I couldn't keep up.)

In a quick ebay search, I found these listings of fakes. I expect that any other listings from the same sellers will be fakes also.
1. shop-used-in-japan - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Dumb...041741?hash=item596619944d:g:BJsAAOSwYvpgL2vO
2. Same pictures as above but different seller ID mireajujapan: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Disn...518704?hash=item5247c6a3f0:g:-zQAAOSwUJtgLeqY
3. tokky-plus - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Disney-coa...199632?hash=item1cfc31b250:g:BKYAAOSwdHlf2sN2

My recommendation for buying Disney or other lines of highly and well-faked newer bags is to either buy directly from Coach (make sure the site is really Coach) or from trusted sellers known.

Thanks for coming back! I'm going to avoid, deep down I didn't feel certain that it was genuine and your information is very helpful. Thank you

 

[Roxy5705]

Good morning,
I am thinking of purchasing my first “vintage” or older classic Coach bag. Can you please authenticate this Willis bag?
Thank you

Item: Coach Willis
Listing number: ?
Seller and site: peaceandlotus on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/gxHtEAovueb

 

[BeenBurned]

Good morning,
I am thinking of purchasing my first “vintage” or older classic Coach bag. Can you please authenticate this Willis bag?
Thank you

Item: Coach Willis
Listing number: ?
Seller and site: peaceandlotus on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/gxHtEAovueb

It's authentic but not vintage for several years. The bag was made in 2008 so it won't be vintage (20 years old) until 2028.

 

[Roxy5705]

Thank you so much for your help I am looking at one more bag, I was hoping might be authenticated also.

Item: Coach Willis
Listing number: ?
Seller and Site: cammscloset on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/Z5ss9FMyueb

 

[BeenBurned]

Thank you so much for your help I am looking at one more bag, I was hoping might be authenticated also.

Item: Coach Willis
Listing number: ?
Seller and Site: cammscloset on Poshmark
Link: https://posh.mk/Z5ss9FMyueb

The bag in question is authentic but the seller has a history on several sites.

Although she doesn't have a lot of fakes, even on PM, there have been some fakes sold. (It looks like creeds on fakes are blurred enough that it's difficult for inexperienced eyes to determine that they are indeed fakes.)

Vintage Coach Black Leather Willis Cross Body Bag

Shop cammscloset's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. This Authentic Coach Black Leather Willis Bag has a flap over the front with a turn lock clasp, a slip pocket on the front, a large main compartment and a zipper pocket inside with...

poshmark.com

Vintage Coach Black Leather Willis Cross Body Bag

Shop cammscloset's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. This Vintage Authentic Coach Black Leather Willis Bag has a flap over the front with a turn lock clasp, a slip pocket on the front, a large main compartment and a zipper pocket...

poshmark.com

And there have been posts on TPF.

https://forum.purseblog.com/search/569016/?q=mirandasmemories&t=post&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=113&o=relevance

In a post in January 2021, I commented:
But the seller has a history on several sites, in fact with enough fakes that her mirandasmemories on ebay is Not a registered user
https://forum.purseblog.com/search/...t&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=29&o=relevance

Current ebay ID: good_6641

Tradesy:
Cammie Lienau
@mirandasmemory

 

[Roxy5705]

The bag in question is authentic but the seller has a history on several sites.

Although she doesn't have a lot of fakes, even on PM, there have been some fakes sold. (It looks like creeds on fakes are blurred enough that it's difficult for inexperienced eyes to determine that they are indeed fakes.)

Vintage Coach Black Leather Willis Cross Body Bag

Shop cammscloset's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. This Authentic Coach Black Leather Willis Bag has a flap over the front with a turn lock clasp, a slip pocket on the front, a large main compartment and a zipper pocket inside with...

poshmark.com

Vintage Coach Black Leather Willis Cross Body Bag

Shop cammscloset's closet or find the perfect look from millions of stylists. Fast shipping and buyer protection. This Vintage Authentic Coach Black Leather Willis Bag has a flap over the front with a turn lock clasp, a slip pocket on the front, a large main compartment and a zipper pocket...

poshmark.com

And there have been posts on TPF.

https://forum.purseblog.com/search/569016/?q=mirandasmemories&t=post&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=113&o=relevance

In a post in January 2021, I commented:
But the seller has a history on several sites, in fact with enough fakes that her mirandasmemories on ebay is Not a registered user
https://forum.purseblog.com/search/...t&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=29&o=relevance

Current ebay ID: good_6641

Tradesy:
Cammie Lienau
@mirandasmemory

Thank you so much for your time and expertise.

 

[Hyacinth]

I have a couple of comments.

I can't view entire listings on Vinted because the site requires me to make an account and relinquish privacy. Without logging in, I can't see full pictures or listings.


I strongly recommend avoiding any bags from any sellers who claim items are "Japanese special edition." From what I've seen and continue to see, all are fake. (ETA: Beware also of the Japanese sellers who use "Collaboration" in their titles and descriptions.)

In fact, about 2 years ago, I posted this thread as a warning. I'd been seeing hundreds of listings of fakes from Coach 1941 collection, NASA, Disney and other popular licensed character collections from Japanese sellers.

Japanese Coach ring - warning

Japan has strong laws against the sale of counterfeit items and generally, Japanese sellers have had a reputation for being honest. However there have been cases where Korean fake (Coach) bags were listed and relisted by more than one Japanese sellers. But a couple of weeks ago, I came across...

forum.purseblog.com

Although the thread hasn't been updated with seller IDs, the fraud continues. (It was and continues to be so rampant that I couldn't keep up.)

In a quick ebay search, I found these listings of fakes. I expect that any other listings from the same sellers will be fakes also.
1. shop-used-in-japan - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Dumb...041741?hash=item596619944d:g:BJsAAOSwYvpgL2vO
2. Same pictures as above but different seller ID mireajujapan: https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Disn...518704?hash=item5247c6a3f0:g:-zQAAOSwUJtgLeqY
3. tokky-plus - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Disney-coa...199632?hash=item1cfc31b250:g:BKYAAOSwdHlf2sN2

My recommendation for buying Disney or other lines of highly and well-faked newer bags is to either buy directly from Coach (make sure the site is really Coach) or from trusted sellers known.

BB, you know I don't get involved with newer styles but I've never seen a genuine Disney Coach bag that didn't have a Disney creed. The Mouse just isn't on my radar, but would that plain non-branded creed inside an alleged "Disney" bag be a red flag? The one thing Disney always does is fight like he11 to protect their trademark and there's no apparent protection there. Is that a bad sign or something you've seen in some genuine Coach-Disney items?

Just curious.

 

[BeenBurned]

BB, you know I don't get involved with newer styles but I've never seen a genuine Disney Coach bag that didn't have a Disney creed. The Mouse just isn't on my radar, but would that plain non-branded creed inside an alleged "Disney" bag be a red flag? The one thing Disney always does is fight like he11 to protect their trademark and there's no apparent protection there. Is that a bad sign or something you've seen in some genuine Coach-Disney items?

Just curious.

TBH,, I haven't really followed too closely, not because I don't want to help with Coach Disney (Snoopy, Nasa, Marvel, etc) items but because so many of those collections are alleged to be "Japanese collaborations" but are absolutely and unquestionably fake.

Another thing I've noticed about the fakes in Japanese listings is that I don't think it's an accident that pictures are just blurry enough that you can't read tags, receipts or paperwork, listings don't include enough or the proper angles of pictures and images in listings don't enlarge.

But now that you asked the question about the Disney creed on a Disney item, I did a bit of hunting and found some items I believe to be authentic (from US sellers) and those with creed pictures show the Disney creed.


So in answer to your question, "Is that a bad sign or something you've seen in some genuine Coach-Disney items?" IMO, it IS a bad sign.

Note that it's ironic that the fakers DID put a Disney creed on a Nasa item! This Japanese seller's item was purchased by a US buyer/reseller and subsequently listed on ebay by that reseller.



So the caveat is that even if there's a Disney creed, that doesn't mean the item it's on is genuine!

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

Hello would you please authenticate this Willis Bag I purchased at Plato's Closet?The measurements are about 10x10x 3. Thank you.

 

[JuneCleaverSemperFi]

Hello would you please authenticate this Willis Bag I purchased at Plato's Closet?The measurements are about 10x10x 3. Thank you.

Oops pics attached