Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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Hi, @BeenBurned, I have some authenticity questions if you don’t mind. I have seen a youtube video of someone comparing real vs fake coach, and they said that there is no authentic creed that isn’t embossed, and that gold ink-ed creed is fake.

but both of these creeds look authentic to me, am I right? And if I am, do you know why sometimes coach use gold/silver-inked creed instead of embossed?





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flowerchildmeesh said:
Item: mini round canteen crossbody black
Listing number: ?? - https://posh.mk/u8T8Ac0Zy9
Seller: cindyposten69
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-coach-5f44973d3cda88d96dcb9e5c?utm_campaign=referral_code=FCTHRIFT&utm_content=feature=sh_li_ss_ios&campaign=share_content_other_user_post.default.010&post_roll=&rfuid=ext1:df6af468-b587-4348-890d-10614969a96b&ext_trk=branch&br_t=true&_branch_match_id=760581180671780825

Comments: Measures 6” height x 7” width. Mini Hangtag has (O) stamp, no creed patch - maybe considered an accessory? I am not familiar with newer or cloth lined Coach. Kind of an impulse buy, but would still clean it up and wear it if it’s authentic. Many thanks to all admins/authenticators in advance, you are truly appreciated! :heart:
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Hyacinth said:
Sorry we missed that one too.

If it's genuine, and that's a very big "IF", it would be a recent re-issue and not a true vintage bag, the original vintage versions didn't have linings. And since the vintage originals had creed patches or stamps and serial numbers, there's no reason why a remake wouldn't have them too.

I don't do newer styles, but the hangtag, regardless of what's trying to be an outlet stamp on it, just doesn't look right at all. The Coach logo is crooked and looks much too small for the hangtag.

Are there ANY kind of fabric tags inside the bag, such as "made in" or any tags sewn all the way down on the bottom seam of an inside pocket? If there are no sewn in tags at all I doubt very seriously if it's genuine. Please feel around in the pocket(s) and seams and post photos if you find any.

Please wait for someone familiar with newer styles to take a look.
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As a rule, I don't authenticate, recommend or comment on Poshmark listings because (IMO) of Poshmark's lack of care when it comes to responding to reports of fakes, lack of expertise of Poshmarks "authentication team" in cases of disputes and lack of seller integrity when sellers are told items are fake yet they don't end their illegal listings.

In this case, I will comment since @Hyacinth asked for someone with expertise in newer styles.

The bag STILL can't be authenticated and without further pictures of the parts of the bag we need to see, I recommend finding a seller on a safer site to purchase from.

The bag (if authentic and that's not yet determined) might be style 48403.

We NEED to see the following:
If this bag is made by Coach, there should be a made in label sewn into a lining seam. I believe on this bag, it would be a rectangular semi-opaque/semi clear plasticy tag. There also should be a white tag sewn in somewhere, probably into the open inner pocket. She may have to pull the pocket and turn it inside out to find and photograph it.

I see that on August 29, someone asked cindyposten69 for additional pictures of the creed and serial number. Even if the bag doesn't have a creed, she should have responded. cindyposten69's lack of communication concerns me.

If she isn't willing or able to supply the pictures we need, DO NOT BUY from cindyposten69.
 
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RadhaDB said:
If possible, could I get a second authentication? I should get off the internet...
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It's fine.
 
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deemary said:
Hi, @BeenBurned, I have some authenticity questions if you don’t mind. I have seen a youtube video of someone comparing real vs fake coach, and they said that there is no authentic creed that isn’t embossed, and that gold ink-ed creed is fake.

but both of these creeds look authentic to me, am I right? And if I am, do you know why sometimes coach use gold/silver-inked creed instead of embossed?





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Without seeing all details of the bags from which those creed pictures came, I can't comment on authenticity.

However whatever youtube video you watched is one that can't be trusted. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of youtube authenticity guides as well as text guides (in every brand and category you can think of) and one needs to take whatever they say with a grain of salt.

Anyone can write a guide or make a video. There's no vetting of expertise, no cross-checking of the accuracy of what they claim and many are simply copies-and-pastes of someone else's guide.

We've seen so many guides with information that's so inaccurate that trusting them will have you think that authentic items are fake and fakes are authentic.

As for the creeds shown in your post, as I said, without seeing the rest of the pictures, I can't say that THOSE CREEDS are on authentic bags but I will say that the person who claimed "that there is no authentic creed that isn’t embossed, and that gold ink-ed creed is fake" is wrong!

There ARE creeds with gold and silver lettering and there are even creeds with script text.

Every item needs to be authenticated based on its own merits. With very few exceptions, there are no hard and fast "always/never" rules.
 
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BeenBurned said:
Without seeing all details of the bags from which those creed pictures came, I can't comment on authenticity.

However whatever youtube video you watched is one that can't be trusted. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of youtube authenticity guides as well as text guides (in every brand and category you can think of) and one needs to take whatever they say with a grain of salt.

Anyone can write a guide or make a video. There's no vetting of expertise, no cross-checking of the accuracy of what they claim and many are simply copies-and-pastes of someone else's guide.

We've seen so many guides with information that's so inaccurate that trusting them will have you think that authentic items are fake and fakes are authentic.

As for the creeds shown in your post, as I said, without seeing the rest of the pictures, I can't say that THOSE CREEDS are on authentic bags but I will say that the person who claimed "that there is no authentic creed that isn’t embossed, and that gold ink-ed creed is fake" is wrong!

There ARE creeds with gold and silver lettering and there are even creeds with script text.

Every item needs to be authenticated based on its own merits. With very few exceptions, there are no hard and fast "always/never" rules.
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Thankyou so much, you saying that there ARE creeds with gold & silver lettering, confirms it for me.

I’m just kind of worried and..pissed? that such videos or so claimed “authenticator” may mislead a lot of people.

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deemary said:
Thankyou so much, you saying that there ARE creeds with gold & silver lettering, confirms it for me.

I’m just kind of worried and..pissed? that such videos or so claimed “authenticator” may mislead a lot of people.

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The bag is fine.

For future requests, see the post at the top of each page of this thread telling what we need for authentications, including link to listing and seller IDs.
 
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