Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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Roro said:
Interesting--I went through my messages to see what ebay had sent me for my bag that they removed. I've been selling on ebay for 20 years, including many, many Coach bags during that time. Yet, the email that I received was identical to Morgan's. So, no, not due to your limited selling history. As I read the email, I was reminded that the ebay CS rep who was actually helpful did encourage a longer, more detailed description. That resulted in some repetition but, with the authentication screen shots, the listing was not removed before the sale. Because the whole listing disappears when it's removed, I took new photos and wrote a new description to relist.

Do folks here who use ebay find that there are better times to call ebay than others? I am on the East Coast and I try to call later on weekdays--after 9pm here, if I can manage that. It seems that I am more likely to get a CS rep who does not so much script-read as actually listen and think before responding. Could just be luck, though. I am curious if others see something similar.
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I always call during the week during the day. I'm hoping I'll get someone in the US but it doesn't always work out that way.
 
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Struck by one other thought. I believe that listings as well as emails from member to member are scanned by...something (clearly not my field) to look for certain words that trigger a program to warn ebay members---whether of a potential counterfeit or of people exchanging contact information. Morgan_Bellini, you mentioned that the strap was not original to the bag I think? My bag had a hangtag that was not original. I wonder if however these facts were phrased had something to do with the removals. (trying not to be paranoid)
 
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Roro said:
Struck by one other thought. I believe that listings as well as emails from member to member are scanned by...something (clearly not my field) to look for certain words that trigger a program to warn ebay members---whether of a potential counterfeit or of people exchanging contact information. Morgan_Bellini, you mentioned that the strap was not original to the bag I think? My bag had a hangtag that was not original. I wonder if however these facts were phrased had something to do with the removals. (trying not to be paranoid)
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That's very possible.
 
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BeenBurned said:
WTF?!?! Your "policy violation" is that you don't have a history? That's ridiculous! Although it explains why linda*s***stuff with her 800K feedback is allowed to get away with selling hundreds of fakes, NONE of which are removed!

It stinks because they're telling you that you can't even relist so how are you supposed to build a history and reputation if they don't allow you to do so?

You've been around here long enough to know what pictures and description to include in your listings so I'm guessing you had a good listing even if you don't have a lot of "selling history." How many pictures were in the listing? Was the description complete with measurements, disclosure of condition, etc.?
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I included 12 photos from all angles of the bag, one of which was a clear creed pic, and I described that the bag had scuffs, scratches, spots, and uneven coloring. I asked potential buyers to request more photos if they wanted them. The strap for the bag was not a Coach strap and I was very clear about that. I think I said "The strap is not original to the bag and is NOT a Coach strap". Maybe that's why? Maybe I should have sold the bag without the strap at all.
 
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Roro said:
Struck by one other thought. I believe that listings as well as emails from member to member are scanned by...something (clearly not my field) to look for certain words that trigger a program to warn ebay members---whether of a potential counterfeit or of people exchanging contact information. Morgan_Bellini, you mentioned that the strap was not original to the bag I think? My bag had a hangtag that was not original. I wonder if however these facts were phrased had something to do with the removals. (trying not to be paranoid)
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Yes, I just thought of this too. When I call eBay tomorrow I will ask if I can relist the bag without the strap.
 
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Morgan_Bellini said:
I included 12 photos from all angles of the bag, one of which was a clear creed pic, and I described that the bag had scuffs, scratches, spots, and uneven coloring. I asked potential buyers to request more photos if they wanted them. The strap for the bag was not a Coach strap and I was very clear about that. I think I said "The strap is not original to the bag and is NOT a Coach strap". Maybe that's why? Maybe I should have sold the bag without the strap at all.
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A long time ago I sold a Coach bag with a strap from another brand. I don't remember what wording I used.
 
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Morgan_Bellini said:
May I please request an authentication of this Court bag in my possession? I listed it for sale on eBay yesterday and my listing was removed because someone said it's fake or eBay determined it to be fake. I'm a very new seller so now I have no idea what to do. This bag was authenticated here but I can't find the post. Someone else had requested the authentication but when the item hadn't sold after a few days I made an offer not it. The old link is no longer active in My eBay. Can I relist this? How do I argue with eBay that it's not fake? Thank you. ETA: the strap is not a Coach strap and I was very clear about that in my listing.
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Thank you for asking about this and thanks to all who replied. I have a couple bags I want to sell (running out of closet space!) that were authenticated here, but I've been nervous about eBay due to exactly this. Sounds like eBay pays attention to this thread, so I will go ahead with it. Thank goodness for the authenticators!
 
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whateve said:
I think it is too. That would make it a Legacy small flap, which was not ever a trail bag. Some misguided seller started calling it a trail bag and many sellers have copied it. 9955 is the trail bag, which looks nothing like this one.
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OK, thank you for clarifying it, @whateve! Even though I know how the Small Legacy Flap looks like and even own one, I really thought that Trail Bag was just a casual name for it. Appreciate your knowledge, as always!
 
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Princess Caroline said:
Thank you for asking about this and thanks to all who replied. I have a couple bags I want to sell (running out of closet space!) that were authenticated here, but I've been nervous about eBay due to exactly this. Sounds like eBay pays attention to this thread, so I will go ahead with it. Thank goodness for the authenticators!
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I guess when you list items be sure that they are all original and authentic. It seems like my listing may have been removed because I was including a fully disclosed unbranded strap with the bag. I didn't think that counted as counterfeit, the strap didn't have any logos or markings at all so how can it be claiming to be something it's not?
 
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Morgan_Bellini said:
I guess when you list items be sure that they are all original and authentic. It seems like my listing may have been removed because I was including a filly disclosed unbranded strap with the bag. I didn't think that counted as counterfeit, the strap didn't have any logos or markings at all so how can it be claiming to be something it's not?
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I wonder if the fact that the strap was 'not Coach' was enough to trigger removal? My hangtag was Coach but 'not original' to the bag. I guess phrasing is really important here.
 
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Morgan_Bellini said:
I guess when you list items be sure that they are all original and authentic. It seems like my listing may have been removed because I was including a filly disclosed unbranded strap with the bag. I didn't think that counted as counterfeit, the strap didn't have any logos or markings at all so how can it be claiming to be something it's not?
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It shouldn't mean counterfeit but who knows how their algorithms and key words twist things.

I've had listings where I've said that the original hangtag was lost and it was replaced. The current hangtag isn't original to the item.

If that turns out to have been the catalyst triggering the removal, perhaps using words like "replacement strap" would be better.
 
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whateve said:
A long time ago I sold a Coach bag with a strap from another brand. I don't remember what wording I used.
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Morgan_Bellini said:
I guess when you list items be sure that they are all original and authentic. It seems like my listing may have been removed because I was including a fully disclosed unbranded strap with the bag. I didn't think that counted as counterfeit, the strap didn't have any logos or markings at all so how can it be claiming to be something it's not?
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Roro said:
I wonder if the fact that the strap was 'not Coach' was enough to trigger removal? My hangtag was Coach but 'not original' to the bag. I guess phrasing is really important here.
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BeenBurned said:
It shouldn't mean counterfeit but who knows how their algorithms and key words twist things.

I've had listings where I've said that the original hangtag was lost and it was replaced. The current hangtag isn't original to the item.

If that turns out to have been the catalyst triggering the removal, perhaps using words like "replacement strap" would be better.
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I agree, "replacement" instead of "not Coach" might be better. Also in the item specifics there is a place to specify Modified Item, which maybe should be "yes" in the case of a replacement strap.
 
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