Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[BeenBurned]

A friend asked me to list several items for her that she's purchased over the years (some 15 years old or so), so I'll need to authenticate before I list. This one is a coated canvas type material with patent trim that's about 9.25" x 4.25" x 7". It does not have a creed patch, but seems genuine. Thank you for any assistance you can offer!View attachment 4661237 View attachment 4661238 View attachment 4661239 View attachment 4661240

It looks good.

 

[Lake Effect]

Thank you, I'm glad too! I am so disappointed in how much trouble it is to sell these bags. I thought it would be fun but it's stressful and annoying. I think after I sell what I need to sell, I'm done. I'll just stick to buying bags to keep. I don't know.

I don't sell online, but many people do here and it seems without a lot of difficulty. Maybe you are getting a crop of problems early on. I hope you don't let this discourage you!

 

[BeenBurned]

May I please request an authentication of this Court bag in my possession? I listed it for sale on eBay yesterday and my listing was removed because someone said it's fake or eBay determined it to be fake. I'm a very new seller so now I have no idea what to do. This bag was authenticated here but I can't find the post. Someone else had requested the authentication but when the item hadn't sold after a few days I made an offer not it. The old link is no longer active in My eBay. Can I relist this? How do I argue with eBay that it's not fake? Thank you. ETA: the strap is not a Coach strap and I was very clear about that in my listing.
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Authenticators, I dont know if this helps but I did find the original requestor's inquiry into the bag I'm trying to sell. It was authenticated! I bought the bag on July 13, 2018. Thank you.

I have actually had the same issue recently as did another seller I know. The problem with ebay seems to be highly faked bags with registration numbers as opposed to the modern style numbers. Call ebay and explain that the bag has been authenticated here. (Ebay removes bags that are deemed fake here, so accepting an authentication is the other side of the same coin). I was told to include the authentication information in my listing ( because links are not permitted on ebay listings anymore, I included a screen shot of the authentication, as well as an explanation of the site / process). I relisted the bag and it sold with no problems.

I think @Roro may have been lucky that the listing wasn't removed again. A removed listing should NEVER be relisted without going through the appeal process and getting written permission.

If the listing was removed as "counterfeit" as opposed to a seller without a lot of experience and removed as a precaution, relisting can have negative effects on your account, including restrictions from listing the brand or as serious as being suspended.

If you copy the email message so we can see how it's worded, I might be able to advise. (A recent listing of a genuine Coach bag was posted on ebay's fashion board but for whatever reason, the poster ignored requests to copy the message.)

I'm so sorry this happened because so many sellers with "real" fakes never get listings removed yet other sellers' authentic bags are taken down.

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

I think @Roro may have been lucky that the listing wasn't removed again. A removed listing should NEVER be relisted without going through the appeal process and getting written permission.

If the listing was removed as "counterfeit" as opposed to a seller without a lot of experience and removed as a precaution, relisting can have negative effects on your account, including restrictions from listing the brand or as serious as being suspended.

If you copy the email message so we can see how it's worded, I might be able to advise. (A recent listing of a genuine Coach bag was posted on ebay's fashion board but for whatever reason, the poster ignored requests to copy the message.)

I'm so sorry this happened because so many sellers with "real" fakes never get listings removed yet other sellers' authentic bags are taken down.

Here is a copy and paste of the email I received from eBay:
"We had to remove your listing because it didn’t follow our Counterfeit item policy. We don’t allow counterfeit items, replicas, or unauthorized copies.
What activity didn't follow the policy
- Limited selling history

What you need to do next
Items removed for this policy cannot be relisted. Please ensure that your future listings are for authentic items only. For these items, they should be described accurately and completely, so buyers know that it is an authentic item.

What is the policy
- Counterfeit products are illegal and not allowed on eBay. Examples include:
-- Fakes, copies or replicas of brand name items (for example, a shoe with the Nike name or logo that wasn’t made by Nike)
-- Electronics or accessories that use or bear the brand name, logo or trademark of a company that didn’t manufacture the item
-- Bootleg recordings from concerts or other live shows
-- Unauthorized or pirated copies of movies, videos or software
- Listings with photos that hide or blur trademarks are not allowed
- If you’re not certain that your item is authentic, it may not be listed
- We may remove authentic items if we receive buyer complaints that the item is not authentic. These items may not be relisted

How this affects your account
Because you may not have been aware of this policy, we're sending this notice to educate you about it and ask that you follow this policy in the future.

- Listings that didn't follow this policy have been ended.

• We have credited all associated fees except for payments processing fees and the final value fee for your listing(s).

Listings that don't follow this policy in the future will be ended. In addition, there will be a temporary 3-day restriction placed on your account, and your other listings will be hidden from search during this period. All fees paid or payable for listings that are ended and/or hidden from search will not be refunded or otherwise credited to your account.

Why we have this policy

This policy prevents the sale of counterfeit items, which are illegal, and could expose sellers to legal risk. Removing them protects sellers and their buyers from buyer protection claims and financial loss." - eBay

It looks like it might be because of my limited selling history? How do I build my seller reputation if they won't let me sell things?

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

I don't sell online, but many people do here and it seems without a lot of difficulty. Maybe you are getting a crop of problems early on. I hope you don't let this discourage you!

Well, I am discouraged. But as irritating as this is, I am still glad to some extent that ebay does take measures to protect buyers, even if they're still ironing out the wrinkles in their policies.

 

[whateve]

Good morning, does this Sheridan look OK? Local sale, so no link. Thank you!

It's authentic.

 

[whateve]

Please authenticate when you can. Thank you
Seller: Alex1gigi
Title: coach handbag British tan
link: https://poshmark.com/listing/COACH-HANDBAG-BRITISH-TAN-5e400e332f4831717ced5e07

Authentic. Great deal!

 

[whateve]

Thank you, I'm glad too! I am so disappointed in how much trouble it is to sell these bags. I thought it would be fun but it's stressful and annoying. I think after I sell what I need to sell, I'm done. I'll just stick to buying bags to keep. I don't know.

Selling is the worst part. It makes it harder to buy since you know you'd have to resell if you don't like.

 

[catthecurious]

It's authentic.

Perfect. Looks nearly new to me. Thank you very much, @whateve !

 

[whateve]

Hello Authenticators,

Item: Vintage Coach Dark Brown Turnlock Crossbody Messenger Bag Purse Crossbody 9313
Listing number: 273999850572
Seller: ximale
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coach-Dark-Brown-Turnlock-Crossbody-Messenger-Bag-Purse-Crossbody-9313/273999850572?_trkparms=aid=1110001&algo=SPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=225074&meid=67daae7e323c4cde9ea5db54a6612860&pid=100010&rk=1&rkt=12&sd=223609356099&itm=273999850572&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

Comments: Please authenticate this Coach bag. Is it a Compartment bag? TIA.

Authentic compartment bag #9850.

 

[Morgan_Bellini]

Selling is the worst part. It makes it harder to buy since you know you'd have to resell if you don't like.

I agree!

 

[whateve]

The number looks like 9965...

I think it is too. That would make it a Legacy small flap, which was not ever a trail bag. Some misguided seller started calling it a trail bag and many sellers have copied it. 9955 is the trail bag, which looks nothing like this one.

 

[SEWDimples]

Authentic compartment bag #9850.

Thanks @whateve for your expertise and time. Much appreciated.

 

[BeenBurned]

Here is a copy and paste of the email I received from eBay:
"We had to remove your listing because it didn’t follow our Counterfeit item policy. We don’t allow counterfeit items, replicas, or unauthorized copies.
What activity didn't follow the policy
- Limited selling history

What you need to do next
Items removed for this policy cannot be relisted. Please ensure that your future listings are for authentic items only. For these items, they should be described accurately and completely, so buyers know that it is an authentic item.

What is the policy
- Counterfeit products are illegal and not allowed on eBay. Examples include:
-- Fakes, copies or replicas of brand name items (for example, a shoe with the Nike name or logo that wasn’t made by Nike)
-- Electronics or accessories that use or bear the brand name, logo or trademark of a company that didn’t manufacture the item
-- Bootleg recordings from concerts or other live shows
-- Unauthorized or pirated copies of movies, videos or software
- Listings with photos that hide or blur trademarks are not allowed
- If you’re not certain that your item is authentic, it may not be listed
- We may remove authentic items if we receive buyer complaints that the item is not authentic. These items may not be relisted

How this affects your account
Because you may not have been aware of this policy, we're sending this notice to educate you about it and ask that you follow this policy in the future.

- Listings that didn't follow this policy have been ended.

• We have credited all associated fees except for payments processing fees and the final value fee for your listing(s).

Listings that don't follow this policy in the future will be ended. In addition, there will be a temporary 3-day restriction placed on your account, and your other listings will be hidden from search during this period. All fees paid or payable for listings that are ended and/or hidden from search will not be refunded or otherwise credited to your account.

Why we have this policy

This policy prevents the sale of counterfeit items, which are illegal, and could expose sellers to legal risk. Removing them protects sellers and their buyers from buyer protection claims and financial loss." - eBay

It looks like it might be because of my limited selling history? How do I build my seller reputation if they won't let me sell things?

WTF?!?! Your "policy violation" is that you don't have a history? That's ridiculous! Although it explains why linda*s***stuff with her 800K feedback is allowed to get away with selling hundreds of fakes, NONE of which are removed!

It stinks because they're telling you that you can't even relist so how are you supposed to build a history and reputation if they don't allow you to do so?

You've been around here long enough to know what pictures and description to include in your listings so I'm guessing you had a good listing even if you don't have a lot of "selling history." How many pictures were in the listing? Was the description complete with measurements, disclosure of condition, etc.?

 

[Roro]

Here is a copy and paste of the email I received from eBay:
"We had to remove your listing because it didn’t follow our Counterfeit item policy. We don’t allow counterfeit items, replicas, or unauthorized copies.
What activity didn't follow the policy
- Limited selling history

What you need to do next
Items removed for this policy cannot be relisted. Please ensure that your future listings are for authentic items only. For these items, they should be described accurately and completely, so buyers know that it is an authentic item.

What is the policy
- Counterfeit products are illegal and not allowed on eBay. Examples include:
-- Fakes, copies or replicas of brand name items (for example, a shoe with the Nike name or logo that wasn’t made by Nike)
-- Electronics or accessories that use or bear the brand name, logo or trademark of a company that didn’t manufacture the item
-- Bootleg recordings from concerts or other live shows
-- Unauthorized or pirated copies of movies, videos or software
- Listings with photos that hide or blur trademarks are not allowed
- If you’re not certain that your item is authentic, it may not be listed
- We may remove authentic items if we receive buyer complaints that the item is not authentic. These items may not be relisted

How this affects your account
Because you may not have been aware of this policy, we're sending this notice to educate you about it and ask that you follow this policy in the future.

- Listings that didn't follow this policy have been ended.

• We have credited all associated fees except for payments processing fees and the final value fee for your listing(s).

Listings that don't follow this policy in the future will be ended. In addition, there will be a temporary 3-day restriction placed on your account, and your other listings will be hidden from search during this period. All fees paid or payable for listings that are ended and/or hidden from search will not be refunded or otherwise credited to your account.

Why we have this policy

This policy prevents the sale of counterfeit items, which are illegal, and could expose sellers to legal risk. Removing them protects sellers and their buyers from buyer protection claims and financial loss." - eBay

It looks like it might be because of my limited selling history? How do I build my seller reputation if they won't let me sell things?

Interesting--I went through my messages to see what ebay had sent me for my bag that they removed. I've been selling on ebay for 20 years, including many, many Coach bags during that time. Yet, the email that I received was identical to Morgan's. So, no, not due to your limited selling history. As I read the email, I was reminded that the ebay CS rep who was actually helpful did encourage a longer, more detailed description. That resulted in some repetition but, with the authentication screen shots, the listing was not removed before the sale. Because the whole listing disappears when it's removed, I took new photos and wrote a new description to relist.

Do folks here who use ebay find that there are better times to call ebay than others? I am on the East Coast and I try to call later on weekdays--after 9pm here, if I can manage that. It seems that I am more likely to get a CS rep who does not so much script-read as actually listen and think before responding. Could just be luck, though. I am curious if others see something similar.