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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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I have two bags in question. I bid on one and it is being shipped to me so I don't have the bag in my possession but I can't find any information on the serial number. Curious about its authenticity and value.

I'm sorry, I should have included this in my post H071312264
The second bag I'm wondering if it is vintage or from what year?
Are there links where these were (or are) listed. Even if sold, they should still be viewable.

Please refer to the first post on page 1 of the thread for the information we need.
 
https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/81783759
This is the link to the first item, the second item I have in my possession.

I don't have the slightest idea what the bag being sold is supposed to be since most of the photos are of the cosmetic case and lining, and the creed stamp and serial number of the larger bag is illegible and the available photos don't show enough details. The description describes the bag as man-made material which would be odd for a Limited Edition Coach, the "limited Edition" extra sewn on patch isn't anything I've ever seen in a Coach before, and the serial number which Entrupy is calling a "date code H071312264" would never have been used in any genuine Coach, the number is invalid and doesn't have any actual production codes. It looks like the creed mentions something about "executive creative director" but I can't read the rest. If it's actually a Limited Edition made as a vanity project for a Coach executive there's probably no way to prove it unless we can find another one with dependable provenance.

The H0 part of the "date code" may possibly be the "No" abbreviation that all genuine Coach serial numbers start with but the rest of the numbers make no sense at all. If the first digit is actually a H that's an even bigger problem.
 
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Good evening! I'm hoping someone can take a look at this for me please? I recently purchased the bag on ebay, but found out about this forum after purchasing and receiving it.

Item: NWT Coach 1941 Rogue Pebble Leather Satchel Shoulder Bag 38124 New 1941 Red RARE
Link: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/163945818939
Item number: 163945818939
Seller: Pambsco
Additional comments: I'm providing some of my own additional photos of the bag, which are below, as they may be helpful in the authentication process.

Here's why I'm concerned:

1). Upon receipt of the item, I noticed the dust bag was a bit small, in comparison to the one that came with my 30cm black rogue purchased directly from Coach.com. I also compared the dustbag (ebay) to the dustbag that came with my 25cm Fuschia Rogue purchased from Coach.com and the dimensions are the same, which is weird. Maybe this isn't a big deal? There's a photo of the dust bag comparison in one of my attached photos (dust bag from 30 black Rogue purchased on coach website vs the one that came with Rogue from ebay).

2). The heat stamped logo on the back of clochette doesn't look perfect (the letter 'A' looks a bit fuzzy.) I circled the logo in blue in one of my attached photos). I did not notice this until I received the bag. Perhaps this isn't an issue? I'm not sure.

Thank you for your help and expertise!

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https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/81783759
This is the link to the first item, the second item I have in my possession.

I don't have the slightest idea what the bag being sold is supposed to be since most of the photos are of the cosmetic case and lining, and the creed stamp and serial number of the larger bag is illegible and the available photos don't show enough details. The description describes the bag as man-made material which would be odd for a Limited Edition Coach, the "limited Edition" extra sewn on patch isn't anything I've ever seen in a Coach before, and the serial number which Entrupy is calling a "date code H071312264" would never have been used in any genuine Coach, the number is invalid and doesn't have any actual production codes. It looks like the creed mentions something about "executive creative director" but I can't read the rest. If it's actually a Limited Edition made as a vanity project for a Coach executive there's probably no way to prove it unless we can find another one with dependable provenance.

The H0 part of the "date code" may possibly be the "No" abbreviation that all genuine Coach serial numbers start with but the rest of the numbers make no sense at all. If the first digit is actually a H that's an even bigger problem.
To add to what @Hyacinth said, I'll just say that if Entrupy was "able" to authenticate either of those items in the Goodwill listing from the pictures shown in that listing, it merely proves (to me, anyway) that whatever algorithms Entrupy uses for its computer program to authenticate items are BS.

There's no way for experienced Coach experts to authenticate those 2 pieces so it's highly unlikely that a computer program from a company that has made dozens of mistakes on Coach (as well as other brands) did any more than flip a coin, giving them a 50-50 chance of getting it right (or wrong)!
 
Hi Narnanz! did you get this one? I don't have this rambler legacy in this colour but I have 2 in black and one in brown. It became my favourite. Just perfect size for me and strap wide enough so doesn't feel like cutting in my shoulder.
Yep...wanted both...there was two about the same price.. the brown went last night. I need to find out what the colour of this one is.
My mum has taken a liking to my current one and I was hoping to get the brown for her, this one might be too light a colour for her.
 
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