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  • Front of item
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Foz said:
Hi,
Can you please authenticate this bag for me. Was the pipping along the side of the bag not smooth in vintage coach bag? Sorry this is my first vintage so don't know much about it. I am attaching a pic to show what I mean.
Name: court bag
Color: navy
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Vintage-Coach-Top-Handle-Leather-Bag-5ceeaa382f827605e78c1671
Seller: dgmelekos
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It's genuine, Court Bag 9870 from the early 1990s

To answer your other question - no, the piping and stitching on older Coach bags wasn't perfect.

Read this thread about the Salearea Guides posted here for more information on Coaches and classic and vintage Coaches in particular:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/salearea-guides.983575/
 
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BeenBurned said:
The paperwork and props in this seller's listings raise red flags.

ETA: Note that although the receipt is blurry, it appears to be from a US outlet (PA?) so the paperwork isn't "Asian exclusive."

Opinions?

seller japan-shop-amorey (141)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Snoo...622582?hash=item340ba46536:g:c~4AAOSwMYtc7gTS

https://www.ebay.com/sch/Clothing-Shoes-Accessories/11450/m.html?item=223533622582&hash=item340ba46536:g:c~4AAOSwMYtc7gTS&_ssn=japan-shop-amorey

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Hyacinth said:
There are a TON of them out there, and no really good pics of the tags and receipts. No way to tell, really, and no way to prove it either way. The overabundace of paperwork is suspicious but it's not proof.
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The previous posts were from May 29 but today, I found another Japanese seller with identical pictures, identical items and same phony paperwork and props.

Although (as stated by @Hyacinth) and others, without proof of inauthenticity, we really shouldn't report the items but with the scary close fakes we've seen of 1941 collection, Disney, Nasa and other newer fakes, I don't recommend buying any of the listings from sellers without being able to confirm authenticity.

Here's the listing I just found and the seller has several listings with similar phony props.

seller katoshouten
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Disney-Lon...272388?hash=item3d8d0a5fc4:g:ShcAAOSwKJldAOET

Pictures from katoshouten 's listing:
Japan katoshouten disney 1.jpg Japan katoshouten disney 2.jpg

Pictures from japan-shop-amorey 's listing:
japan-shop-amorey coach snoopy paperwork fake? 1.jpg japan-shop-amorey coach snoopy paperwork fake? 2.jpg

If these sellers aren't the same person (with different accounts), they're definitely working together.

BEWARE!
 
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BeenBurned said:
The previous posts were from May 29 but today, I found another Japanese seller with identical pictures, identical items and same phony paperwork and props.

Although (as stated by @Hyacinth) and others, without proof of inauthenticity, we really shouldn't report the items but with the scary close fakes we've seen of 1941 collection, Disney, Nasa and other newer fakes, I don't recommend buying any of the listings from sellers without being able to confirm authenticity.

Here's the listing I just found and the seller has several listings with similar phony props.

seller katoshouten
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Disney-Lon...272388?hash=item3d8d0a5fc4:g:ShcAAOSwKJldAOET

Pictures from katoshouten 's listing:
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Pictures from japan-shop-amorey 's listing:
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If these sellers aren't the same person (with different accounts), they're definitely working together.

BEWARE!
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Yep, and we've seen so many times that when a "Coach" item is trying TOO hard to prove it's a real Coach, whether by stamping the Coach name on every piece of hardware or supplying a bunch of paperwork that isn't even included with genuine items, the best thing to do is to STAY AWAY.

Interesting thing too about that white and reddish "An American Classic" booklet - take a very close look at the Coach logo in the bottom right corner. It's obvious in the first photo in your post but it shows up in one of the other photos too. The base of the "A" is below the line of the other letters. It's probably less than a millimeter lower but it IS lower. None of the booklets I received with bags i bought directly from Coach years ago showed that kind of mistake (and back then the booklet's cover colors were white and brown, not red). It's a very small thing, but that's where counterfeiters make their mistakes, on the small things.

We used to trust sellers located in Japan more than we did the ones located here, because the culture of the country made selling fakes something that was looked down upon. Now it seems that that trust was misplaced. I would NOT recommend buying from Japanese sellers now ESPECIALLY newer ones, unless it's a seller who has a strong record of satisfied customers going back YEARS.

And of course we know one or two long-term Japan sellers who keep trying to sell Korean-made fakes as genuine, but that's another story.
 
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BeenBurned said:
The 1941 collection bags are extremely well faked so I skipped your request, intending to return later. Unfortunately, I forgot to come back so the gentle nudge was helpful.

I think it looks good though I'd like to see the printed side of the tag (with the style/upc/etc.) and a clear picture of the zipper pull.

The style number is correct - 29234. (The other style number you mentioned, 58964 is a tea rose rogue.)
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Thank you! I've reached out to the seller and will get back to you.
 
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Still looking! Please take a look at these ebay items, thanks!

Item: Red Station bag
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...420497?hash=item2ace19c011:g:954AAOSwgGldAhX2
Item: 2ace19c011:g:954AAOSwgGldAhX2
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodstuffgroup
Comments: Serial: H6L-5130 Is this 1996 or 2006?
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Item: Red Manor
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Vint...413c:g:7DwAAOSwtNFc~t-q&LH_ItemCondition=3000
Item: 1efc3e413c%3Ag%3A7DwAAOSwtNFc~t-q&LH_
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/gringarden20
Comments: GC6 9977 - Love the color on this bag! Can you tell the year? 96?

Thank you for your time!
 
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jillhives said:
Still looking! Please take a look at these ebay items, thanks!

Item: Red Station bag
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...420497?hash=item2ace19c011:g:954AAOSwgGldAhX2
Item: 2ace19c011:g:954AAOSwgGldAhX2
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodstuffgroup
Comments: Serial: H6L-5130 Is this 1996 or 2006?
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Item: Red Manor
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Vintage-Manor-Flap-Saddle-Bag-Crossbody-Red-Wine-Leather-Western-9977-Rare/133080957244?hash=item1efc3e413c:g:7DwAAOSwtNFc~t-q&LH_ItemCondition=3000
Item: 1efc3e413c%3Ag%3A7DwAAOSwtNFc~t-q&LH_
Seller: https://www.ebay.com/usr/gringarden20
Comments: GC6 9977 - Love the color on this bag! Can you tell the year? 96?

Thank you for your time!
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Both are authentic and both are 1996.

ETA: for the record, the first seller, goodstuffgroup was discussed in the past:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-2050#post-32460182
 
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Hi, can you please authenticate this bag for me? Thanks so much!
Item: Bleeker zip?
Listing number: na
Seller: Valley Thrift Store
Link: na
Comments: na

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greenpixie said:
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