Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
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• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Could you please take a look at this bag?

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m99475376427/?ref=deleted_item

TIA

Genuine, made in 2005

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello!
I purchased several bags off of Poshmark & Mercari while sleep-shopping (the more expensive form of sleep-walking). I was able to figure out that 2 were fakes thanks to this incredible forum, but I’m still unsure of 3 of them - I’d much appreciate your help with any of them, as I realize 3 is a big ask! FWIW, as someone who used to work in shoe repairs, I am confident they are all actually leather.

#1: Item: “COACH #9086 - Vintage Red Leather Legacy” (No. H9C-9086)
Listing number: m10629606570 (Mercari)
Seller: Abby Tatum
Link:
https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m10629606570/?ref=search_results
Comments: I believe I saw what looked like this exact bag’s creed mark on here, but for some reason I can’t find it again, & I accident closed the window before finding out the verdict. Smh.

#2: Item: Coach Vintage Drawstring Bucket Brown Leather (No. D0D-9165)
Listing number: I do not see listing #s on Poshmark
Seller: @guadis26
Link: https://posh.mk/ddsszi0atW

#3: Item: Coach Purse (green, No. D1280-F19262)
Listing number: again, Poshmark, don’t see one
Seller: @sfulton2015
Link:
https://posh.mk/iu172ZEbtW

Please let me know if you need me to provide more photos. Thank you in advance for whatever help you can offer!

The first one is fake, the serial number's font is wrong

2 and 3 are genuine.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hello!
I purchased several bags off of Poshmark & Mercari while sleep-shopping (the more expensive form of sleep-walking). I was able to figure out that 2 were fakes thanks to this incredible forum, but I’m still unsure of 3 of them - I’d much appreciate your help with any of them, as I realize 3 is a big ask! FWIW, as someone who used to work in shoe repairs, I am confident they are all actually leather.

#1: Item: “COACH #9086 - Vintage Red Leather Legacy” (No. H9C-9086)
Listing number: m10629606570 (Mercari)
Seller: Abby Tatum
Link:
https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m10629606570/?ref=search_results
Comments: I believe I saw what looked like this exact bag’s creed mark on here, but for some reason I can’t find it again, & I accident closed the window before finding out the verdict. Smh.

The first one is fake, the serial number's font is wrong.

You did see the fake's creed here. I knew it looked familiar and found that IDENTICAL bag in my saved images. You can tell it's the same bag and not just a similar one because both have the mark on the left side of the creed's border.

So after doing a bit of hunting around, I found it. I can't tell whether it was the same Mercari seller. (Original seller was located in Minnesota. I can't tell where Abby Tatum is located.)
@Bananagramz - Where is your seller located?
ETA: It looks like the current seller is in Arizona. She must have bought the fake from Klith and should go after her for a refund.

Houseof999's post:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1153#post-30641252

Hyacinth's reply (with pictures showing the same creed):
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1153#post-30641459

And my reply showing that the seller (at the time, Klith on Mercari) was told that the bag is fake:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1154#post-30642747

And then, this post where Klith removed the comment letting her know the bag is fake and her edited listing in which she removed the "Coach" name.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1154#post-30643835

Abby Tatum Mercari creed:


Previous Klith Mercari creed:

 

[Bananagramz]

You did see the fake's creed here. I knew it looked familiar and found that IDENTICAL bag in my saved images. You can tell it's the same bag and not just a similar one because both have the mark on the left side of the creed's border.

So after doing a bit of hunting around, I found it. I can't tell whether it was the same Mercari seller. (Original seller was located in Minnesota. I can't tell where Abby Tatum is located.)
@Bananagramz - Where is your seller located?
ETA: It looks like the current seller is in Arizona. She must have bought the fake from Klith and should go after her for a refund.

Houseof999's post:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1153#post-30641252

Hyacinth's reply (with pictures showing the same creed):
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1153#post-30641459

And my reply showing that the seller (at the time, Klith on Mercari) was told that the bag is fake:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1154#post-30642747

And then, this post where Klith removed the comment letting her know the bag is fake and her edited listing in which she removed the "Coach" name.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...ost-for-format.889527/page-1154#post-30643835

Abby Tatum Mercari creed:
View attachment 4424328

Previous Klith Mercari creed:
View attachment 4424329

Wow!!!! I am both in awe & beyond grateful, especially for the insanely thorough backstory on #1!!! That was actually the bag that led me here - after one I received was clearly (to me) vinyl, I started really inspecting the rest, and I found the strap on the red was poorly finished... After forum searching helped me identify a J8P and a fake 9098 I really didn’t have hope for ANY of the 3, so I’m thrilled.
2 of the 4 fakes were of high enough quality leather & workmanship that I wouldn’t care - you pay for what you get & learn your lesson for next time - but I have no room for 6 new bags, and I could not in good conscience either sell or donate fake goods.

Despite finding out I got swindled, I actually had a lot of fun doing the detective work! I’m considering getting out Coaches I was gifted now & investigating them just for the fun of it lol.

Pardon the long-winded response, still a bit overwhelmed by your kindness & skill. Y’all deserve capes!

 

[BeenBurned]

Wow!!!! I am both in awe & beyond grateful, especially for the insanely thorough backstory on #1!!! That was actually the bag that led me here - after one I received was clearly (to me) vinyl, I started really inspecting the rest, and I found the strap on the red was poorly finished... After forum searching helped me identify a J8P and a fake 9098 I really didn’t have hope for ANY of the 3, so I’m thrilled.
2 of the 4 fakes were of high enough quality leather & workmanship that I wouldn’t care - you pay for what you get & learn your lesson for next time - but I have no room for 6 new bags, and I could not in good conscience either sell or donate fake goods.

Despite finding out I got swindled, I actually had a lot of fun doing the detective work! I’m considering getting out Coaches I was gifted now & investigating them just for the fun of it lol.

Pardon the long-winded response, still a bit overwhelmed by your kindness & skill. Y’all deserve capes!

While I commend you for learning and working hard, you should NOT be stuck with the fakes. File disputes and demand your money back. It's illegal to sell fakes whether the sellers knowingly list or make a mistake; it's the seller's responsibility to verify authenticity prior to listing.

I'd open a dispute.

Personally, I wouldn't care how inexpensive the item was nor how "nice" the quality is, I wouldn't want to carry a fake.

And although I don't find Mercari to be responsive to reports of fakes, their policy is in line with the law.
https://www.mercari.com/help_center/article/318

PROHIBITED:

• Counterfeit goods or goods infringing on a third party's intellectual property rights such as:
  • Listings of non-brand, non-genuine, imitation, fake, or replica
  • Items in violation of a copyright, including handmade, or other items with copyrighted characters, brand logos, etc.
  • Note: For brand-name products, serial numbers or receipts must be available when listing the item.

In your case, further digging found that your seller did purchase the fake from
Klith (Seller) on 11/08/2016 and as I showed, Klith did know the bag was fake and still sold it. I'd be inclined to let Abby Tatum know of our findings and authentication and suggest she approach Klith (who BTW is still on Mercari).

 

[Minchanka]

Genuine, made in 2005

THanks, I really hope it’s that blue color from 2005.

 

[Bananagramz]

While I commend you for learning and working hard, you should NOT be stuck with the fakes. File disputes and demand your money back. It's illegal to sell fakes whether the sellers knowingly list or make a mistake; it's the seller's responsibility to verify authenticity prior to listing.

I'd open a dispute.

Personally, I wouldn't care how inexpensive the item was nor how "nice" the quality is, I wouldn't want to carry a fake.

And although I don't find Mercari to be responsive to reports of fakes, their policy is in line with the law.
https://www.mercari.com/help_center/article/318

PROHIBITED:

• Counterfeit goods or goods infringing on a third party's intellectual property rights such as:
  • Listings of non-brand, non-genuine, imitation, fake, or replica
  • Items in violation of a copyright, including handmade, or other items with copyrighted characters, brand logos, etc.
  • Note: For brand-name products, serial numbers or receipts must be available when listing the item.

In your case, further digging found that your seller did purchase the fake from
Klith (Seller) on 11/08/2016 and as I showed, Klith did know the bag was fake and still sold it. I'd be inclined to let Abby Tatum know of our findings and authentication and suggest she approach Klith (who BTW is still on Mercari).

I plan on doing just that. I was so shocked and ashamed that I went on a shopping binge that I blamed myself instead a new flavour of an old sleeping disorder and sellers who were willfully ignorant at best. In an amazing coincidence 2 separate people Said “I was given it by my late mother”.

I have one further favourite to ask, if you all have the time: can anyone verify this as fraudulent based on the listing alone? I found other proof that it was bogus when examining under the flap, similar to another listing here, but I’d like to have all the ammo I can.

I’ll call this #4:
Item: Vintage Coach Bag (No. A9C-9098)
Listing number: m58982320282 (Mercari)
Seller: Jdee95
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m58982320282/?ref=user_profile

Whether you have time to do this or not, I really appreciate all your help & will post in your Hall of Shame any of these guys who repost, chronically offend, etc.

 

[whateve]

I plan on doing just that. I was so shocked and ashamed that I went on a shopping binge that I blamed myself instead a new flavour of an old sleeping disorder and sellers who were willfully ignorant at best. In an amazing coincidence 2 separate people Said “I was given it by my late mother”.

I have one further favourite to ask, if you all have the time: can anyone verify this as fraudulent based on the listing alone? I found other proof that it was bogus when examining under the flap, similar to another listing here, but I’d like to have all the ammo I can.

I’ll call this #4:
Item: Vintage Coach Bag (No. A9C-9098)
Listing number: m58982320282 (Mercari)
Seller: Jdee95
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m58982320282/?ref=user_profile

Whether you have time to do this or not, I really appreciate all your help & will post in your Hall of Shame any of these guys who repost, chronically offend, etc.

Don't report that bag! It is authentic. Why don't you think so?

 

[BeenBurned]

I plan on doing just that. I was so shocked and ashamed that I went on a shopping binge that I blamed myself instead a new flavour of an old sleeping disorder and sellers who were willfully ignorant at best. In an amazing coincidence 2 separate people Said “I was given it by my late mother”.

I have one further favourite to ask, if you all have the time: can anyone verify this as fraudulent based on the listing alone? I found other proof that it was bogus when examining under the flap, similar to another listing here, but I’d like to have all the ammo I can.

I’ll call this #4:
Item: Vintage Coach Bag (No. A9C-9098)
Listing number: m58982320282 (Mercari)
Seller: Jdee95
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m58982320282/?ref=user_profile

Whether you have time to do this or not, I really appreciate all your help & will post in your Hall of Shame any of these guys who repost, chronically offend, etc.

Don't report that bag! It is authentic. Why don't you think so?

Note that you copied the serial prefix incorrectly; the year made is 1998, not 1999 as you typed. (It doesn't change that the bag IS authentic.)

 

[Bananagramz]

Note that you copied the serial prefix incorrectly; the year made is 1998, not 1999 as you typed. (It doesn't change that the bag IS authentic.)

My apologies for the typo! An authentic Coach would be finished with two layers of cheap cardboard and a sloppy application of glue??

 

[Hyacinth]

I plan on doing just that. I was so shocked and ashamed that I went on a shopping binge that I blamed myself instead a new flavour of an old sleeping disorder and sellers who were willfully ignorant at best. In an amazing coincidence 2 separate people Said “I was given it by my late mother”.

I have one further favourite to ask, if you all have the time: can anyone verify this as fraudulent based on the listing alone? I found other proof that it was bogus when examining under the flap, similar to another listing here, but I’d like to have all the ammo I can.

I’ll call this #4:
Item: Vintage Coach Bag (No. A9C-9098)
Listing number: m58982320282 (Mercari)
Seller: Jdee95
Link: https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m58982320282/?ref=user_profile

Whether you have time to do this or not, I really appreciate all your help & will post in your Hall of Shame any of these guys who repost, chronically offend, etc.

Don't report that bag! It is authentic. Why don't you think so?

Note that you copied the serial prefix incorrectly; the year made is 1998, not 1999 as you typed. (It doesn't change that the bag IS authentic.)

I agree with Whateve and BeenBurned. Some of the bags in that Tribeca line used some questionable stiffener materials in parts of their line. I had a Tribeca Flap #9092 from the same line that used some odd material to stiffen half of the flap. It wasn't cardboard or the bag wouldn't have been washable. Coach may sometimes make some odd design and material choices, but the creed photo I'm looking at tells me it's genuine. It looks like one of the bag's owners tried to remove that stiffening material for some reason and did a lousy job of it.

 

[donnarie]

Hi there. Please authenticate this coach bag. I have issues with the creed #s being barely legible and I also have issue with the way the strap is attached. Thanks so much

 

[donnarie]

For some reason the creed pics did not upload.. here they are

 

[whateve]

View attachment 4424658 Hi there. Please authenticate this coach bag. I have issues with the creed #s being barely legible and I also have issue with the way the strap is attached. Thanks so much

For some reason the creed pics did not upload.. here they are

Your suspicions are right. It is fake. Where did you get it?

 

[BeenBurned]

View attachment 4424658 Hi there. Please authenticate this coach bag. I have issues with the creed #s being barely legible and I also have issue with the way the strap is attached. Thanks so much

For some reason the creed pics did not upload.. here they are

Link to listing?

You are correct. It's fake. Among other things, 012-3445 is a known and invalid serial number.

ETA: GMTA!