Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

If I could trouble you with a few more...

Item: VTG COACH 'Willis' Black Leather Messenger Cross-Body Satchel Purse Bag 1212 USA
Listing number: 352549793003
Seller: laceymike
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-COACH-...-Body-Satchel-Purse-Bag-1212-USA/352549793003
Comments: apologies if the photos are too blurry!

Item: Vintage Coach NYC 'Saddle Pouch Large' Black Leather Flap Shoulder Purse 9585
Listing number: 392202192315
Seller: sharon1794
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...Leather-Flap-Shoulder-Purse-9585/392202192315

Item: 70s Vintage COACH Classic Purse White Leather Bag Bucket Bag Hobo Purse Festival Boho Motorcycle Mama
Listing number: 528643147
Seller: RowdysTexas
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/528643147/70s-vintage-coach-classic-purse-white

Item: Vintage Coach Handbag Black Leather 1970s 1980s NY Factory
Listing number: 626729305
Seller: TheMagicCanoeCompany
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/626729305/vintage-coach-handbag-black-leather
Comments: I’ve asked for a better picture of the creed.

As always, many thanks for your time and expertise!

1- genuine but NOT from the 1970s. That Willis style wasn't even introduced until 1993 which is probably when this one was made
2- genuine
3- genuine but a Lightweight style from the late 1980s, not the 1970s.
4- genuine, middle 1980s

 

[Jacynthe]

To add to what Hyacinth said, some bags are supposed to be stiffer so they used a stiffer leather. Your Fletcher was made with lightweight leather and is supposed to be especially floppy. Bags from the 70s and 80s tend to have stiffer leather than 90s and early 2000s all leather bags.

Thank you Whateve!

 

[moreau_md]

It's 1995. It is actually C5C. Once I accidentally bought a bag with gum stuck inside, then I made a bigger mistake of dunking it in warm water. It was all I could do to not throw up while I worked on it.

Noted! I think gum would be worse than candy... hopefully you eventually got it all off!

All are fine.

1- genuine but NOT from the 1970s. That Willis style wasn't even introduced until 1993 which is probably when this one was made
2- genuine
3- genuine but a Lightweight style from the late 1980s, not the 1970s.
4- genuine, middle 1980s

Thank you both for these! I so appreciate your help. Looks as though I will be treating myself to a vintage bag for the holidays!

Good to know the Willis wasn’t introduced until 1993. I was wondering why I hadn’t seen any older ones.

On that note, I found another:
Item: Vintage COACH Willis Black Leather Convertible Messenger CrossBody Satchel Purse
Listing number: 173670280164
Seller: christine07bader
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-CO...essenger-CrossBody-Satchel-Purse/173670280164

 

[whateve]

Noted! I think gum would be worse than candy... hopefully you eventually got it all off!





Thank you both for these! I so appreciate your help. Looks as though I will be treating myself to a vintage bag for the holidays!

Good to know the Willis wasn’t introduced until 1993. I was wondering why I hadn’t seen any older ones.

On that note, I found another:
Item: Vintage COACH Willis Black Leather Convertible Messenger CrossBody Satchel Purse
Listing number: 173670280164
Seller: christine07bader
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-CO...essenger-CrossBody-Satchel-Purse/173670280164

This one's fine too.

 

[moreau_md]

This one's fine too.

Amazing, thank you again for your help!

 

[Jacynthe]

Hello! I am enjoying TPF!!! I was amazed to learn that their are fakes of vintage leather Coach bags. I can trust the ones that I was given years ago but a couple I bought on line have me concerned since there are some really good fakes. I bought a thrift shop city bag A8M-4896 and learned from you all at TPF that this number is a fake. Seemed like real leather. Wonder if it is okay to dismantle and create something out of the leather of a fake?
This following one was bought on line, last year I believe, and no longer can I find the listing. Thank you in advance for your advise!!! I greatly appreciate it!!
Item: L4H 4141 Hobo shoulder bucket?
Dimensions: 8.5"H 5"depth 10" height 17" to 19" drop (about)
Comments: stretch marks on leather is my concern. Bag's leather feels thinner than my other bags.

 

[whateve]

Hello! I am enjoying TPF!!! I was amazed to learn that their are fakes of vintage leather Coach bags. I can trust the ones that I was given years ago but a couple I bought on line have me concerned since there are some really good fakes. I bought a thrift shop city bag A8M-4896 and learned from you all at TPF that this number is a fake. Seemed like real leather. Wonder if it is okay to dismantle and create something out of the leather of a fake?
This following one was bought on line, last year I believe, and no longer can I find the listing. Thank you in advance for your advise!!! I greatly appreciate it!!
Item: L4H 4141 Hobo shoulder bucket?
Dimensions: 8.5"H 5"depth 10" height 17" to 19" drop (about)
Comments: stretch marks on leather is my concern. Bag's leather feels thinner than my other bags.

This one is fine.
It's fine to cut up fakes and use the leather for something else. One of our members makes tassels.

 

[kikume]

Posting again because they put up better photos of the creeds. They seemed OK to me, no glaring abnormalities. Fingers crossed!

Item: Carousel, Chaunsey and Mini Ergo Hobo (?)
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/61709397

Photos are in the link, as are dimensions under "item info".

Thank you in advance.

 

[whateve]

Posting again because they put up better photos of the creeds. They seemed OK to me, no glaring abnormalities. Fingers crossed!

Item: Carousel, Chaunsey and Mini Ergo Hobo (?)
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/61709397

Photos are in the link, as are dimensions under "item info".

Thank you in advance.

They are fine.

 

[Hyacinth]

Posting again because they put up better photos of the creeds. They seemed OK to me, no glaring abnormalities. Fingers crossed!

Item: Carousel, Chaunsey and Mini Ergo Hobo (?)
Link: https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/61709397

Photos are in the link, as are dimensions under "item info".

Thank you in advance.

Thanks for arranging the extra photos.

All three are genuine, the black Ergo is an Ergo Mini Satchel

 

[kikume]

They are fine.

Thanks for arranging the extra photos.

All three are genuine, the black Ergo is an Ergo Mini Satchel

Thank you both quick as always.

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello! I am enjoying TPF!!! I was amazed to learn that their are fakes of vintage leather Coach bags. I can trust the ones that I was given years ago but a couple I bought on line have me concerned since there are some really good fakes. I bought a thrift shop city bag A8M-4896 and learned from you all at TPF that this number is a fake. Seemed like real leather. Wonder if it is okay to dismantle and create something out of the leather of a fake?
This following one was bought on line, last year I believe, and no longer can I find the listing. Thank you in advance for your advise!!! I greatly appreciate it!!
Item: L4H 4141 Hobo shoulder bucket?
Dimensions: 8.5"H 5"depth 10" height 17" to 19" drop (about)
Comments: stretch marks on leather is my concern. Bag's leather feels thinner than my other bags.

The -4141 style is from a line originally called the Lightweights and later became the Sohos, and why the leather seems thinner is self-explanatory once you know the name of the line. Thinner leather and lighter hardware were two of its major characteristics. The bag is a Soho Rivington.

 

[whateve]

The -4141 style is from a line originally called the Lightweights and later became the Sohos, and why the leather seems thinner is self-explanatory once you know the name of the line. Thinner leather and lighter hardware were two of its major characteristics. The bag is a Soho Rivington.

This one is missing from my files too! Do you have a catalog pic?

 

[Hyacinth]

This one is missing from my files too! Do you have a catalog pic?

Happy to oblige - from the 1994 Fall-late Autumn catalog:

 

[Xojessss]

• Hi I was wondering if I could get this coach baby bag authenticated, picked it up in goodwill. It has no serial number. I would really appreciate your help.