Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[moreau_md]

1 and 3 are authentic. 3 looks like that might be melted candy in the bottom. It will probably come out in a warm bath but looks gross. 2 is fake.

Thanks so much for your quick reply! Bummer about the second one being fake.

On the third (Willis) - could you estimate the age? I wasn’t sure if the creed was C5O as the seller noted, or 050. And thanks for pointing out the melted candy - eww! If I got that’s one, I would be hopeful I could get it out with Dawn.

Thanks again!

 

[msmith11]

I recently purchased this mini satchel from poshmark, and I have some worries about it’s authenticity and wuld greatly appreciate an expert opinion before I decide not to send it back! Thank you!!

Item: Coach Mini Kelsey Satchel (in pebbled black)
Seller: fashion_holic
Link: https://bnc.lt/focc/aPewsTWz1S
Serial No: J1848-F28994


Some things I noticed:
-the zipper doesn’t have any leather on it and I’ve seen other Mini Kelseys whose zippers do
-other Mini Kelseys have a white serial number tag and this one does not

 

[colorguardjames]

Could I get a little help authenticating this bag?

Vintage Coach Patricia's Legacy
Seller: ryry2ty
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Red-Patricia-Classic-Bag-9951-5c0fd7f504e33da84b633a08

The serial number looks like the wrong font but I wanted confirmation.

 

[Hyacinth]

Please explain. I have many examples of the G plant used in purses from 1994 to 1998.

WHOOPS! My mistake, I read my notes too fast. "G" was mostly a floater and the genuine ones usually had "G"s that were a different size from the rest of the serial digits and slightly apaprt from the rest of the serial prefix when used in handbags. Luggage and travel items used a different font. Mid-1990s HANDBAGS with G plant codes and serial prefixes that are all the same font and spacing are the ones that could be problematic.

Sorry for any confusion. I blame lack of coffee and a Doctor Who marathon. My favorite pairing too, Ten and Donna Noble.

And of course, the Adipose...

 

[BeenBurned]

WHOOPS! My mistake, I read my notes too fast. "G" was mostly a floater and the genuine ones usually had "G"s that were a different size from the rest of the serial digits and slightly apaprt from the rest of the serial prefix when used in handbags. Luggage and travel items used a different font. Mid-1990s HANDBAGS with G plant codes and serial prefixes that are all the same font and spacing are the ones that could be problematic.

Sorry for any confusion. I blame lack of coffee and a Doctor Who marathon.

Here's an example of a genuine G plant creed of the type that could be problematic.

 

[Hyacinth]

Could I get a little help authenticating this bag?

Vintage Coach Patricia's Legacy
Seller: ryry2ty
Link: https://poshmark.com/listing/Coach-Red-Patricia-Classic-Bag-9951-5c0fd7f504e33da84b633a08

The serial number looks like the wrong font but I wanted confirmation.

You're correct, the font is wrong, the underscore under "No" is too long, and a genuine J4D- serial prefix would have a creed with the old "scars, scratches, veins and wrinkles" statement and a separate "made in the United States" at the bottom.

 

[colorguardjames]

You're correct, the font is wrong, the underscore under "No" is too long, and a genuine J4D- serial prefix would have a creed with the old "scars, scratches and wrinkles" statement and a separate "made in the United States" at the bottom.

Thanks so much!! Offer Averted!

 

[Hyacinth]

Here's an example of a genuine G plant creed of the type that could be problematic.
View attachment 4290583

Yep That particular one is not a handbag creed though, it's a Travelweave Duffle or Cabin Bag and should be ok. Here are the other photos from the same listing that creed photo came from, note the fabric lining. If the creed was from a handbag it WOULD be a problem. :

 

[Jacynthe]

Hello! I am so happy to have found TPF!!! I am a fan of several bags but especially am fond of Coach (esp vintage) and so relieved to know that there are many like minded souls out there! I found this at a thrift store and I am not sure if it is authentic. I never participated in a blog before so please let me know if I am doing this correctly and have the correct format. Thank you!

Item: Coach saddlery bag
Dimensions: W-9" (about) H-8" Depth-3.5" Drop 13.5" to 20.5" (about)
Comments: black leather, made in New York City per the description on creed, number 109-5630. Leather seems too stiff, especially on the interior suede side as compared to my Fletcher and another (I think Patricia bag) as well as my old banged up Stewardess.

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance!
Photos:

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello! I am so happy to have found TPF!!! I am a fan of several bags but especially am fond of Coach (esp vintage) and so relieved to know that there are many like minded souls out there! I found this at a thrift store and I am not sure if it is authentic. I never participated in a blog before so please let me know if I am doing this correctly and have the correct format. Thank you!

Item: Coach saddlery bag
Dimensions: W-9" (about) H-8" Depth-3.5" Drop 13.5" to 20.5" (about)
Comments: black leather, made in New York City per the description on creed, number 109-5630. Leather seems too stiff, especially on the interior suede side as compared to my Fletcher and another (I think Patricia bag) as well as my old banged up Stewardess.

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance!
Photos:

Welcome to tPF! If you ever need an authentication of a Coach that's currently listed on an auction or selling site, please be sure to give the details and use the format described in Post number One of this thread.

Leather softens with use, and larger bags usually soften faster than smaller ones.

It's a genuine Saddlery Bag style 9535 from around 1986-1987.

 

[Jacynthe]

Thank you Hyacinth! I am honoured that you replied to my request!

 

[moreau_md]

If I could trouble you with a few more...

Item: VTG COACH 'Willis' Black Leather Messenger Cross-Body Satchel Purse Bag 1212 USA
Listing number: 352549793003
Seller: laceymike
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-COACH-...-Body-Satchel-Purse-Bag-1212-USA/352549793003
Comments: apologies if the photos are too blurry!

Item: Vintage Coach NYC 'Saddle Pouch Large' Black Leather Flap Shoulder Purse 9585
Listing number: 392202192315
Seller: sharon1794
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...Leather-Flap-Shoulder-Purse-9585/392202192315

Item: 70s Vintage COACH Classic Purse White Leather Bag Bucket Bag Hobo Purse Festival Boho Motorcycle Mama
Listing number: 528643147
Seller: RowdysTexas
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/528643147/70s-vintage-coach-classic-purse-white

Item: Vintage Coach Handbag Black Leather 1970s 1980s NY Factory
Listing number: 626729305
Seller: TheMagicCanoeCompany
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/626729305/vintage-coach-handbag-black-leather
Comments: I’ve asked for a better picture of the creed.

As always, many thanks for your time and expertise!

 

[whateve]

Thanks so much for your quick reply! Bummer about the second one being fake.

On the third (Willis) - could you estimate the age? I wasn’t sure if the creed was C5O as the seller noted, or 050. And thanks for pointing out the melted candy - eww! If I got that’s one, I would be hopeful I could get it out with Dawn.

Thanks again!

It's 1995. It is actually C5C. Once I accidentally bought a bag with gum stuck inside, then I made a bigger mistake of dunking it in warm water. It was all I could do to not throw up while I worked on it.

 

[whateve]

Hello! I am so happy to have found TPF!!! I am a fan of several bags but especially am fond of Coach (esp vintage) and so relieved to know that there are many like minded souls out there! I found this at a thrift store and I am not sure if it is authentic. I never participated in a blog before so please let me know if I am doing this correctly and have the correct format. Thank you!

Item: Coach saddlery bag
Dimensions: W-9" (about) H-8" Depth-3.5" Drop 13.5" to 20.5" (about)
Comments: black leather, made in New York City per the description on creed, number 109-5630. Leather seems too stiff, especially on the interior suede side as compared to my Fletcher and another (I think Patricia bag) as well as my old banged up Stewardess.

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance!
Photos:

Welcome to tPF! If you ever need an authentication of a Coach that's currently listed on an auction or selling site, please be sure to give the details and use the format described in Post number One of this thread.

Leather softens with use, and larger bags usually soften faster than smaller ones.

It's a genuine Saddlery Bag style 9535 from around 1986-1987.

To add to what Hyacinth said, some bags are supposed to be stiffer so they used a stiffer leather. Your Fletcher was made with lightweight leather and is supposed to be especially floppy. Bags from the 70s and 80s tend to have stiffer leather than 90s and early 2000s all leather bags.

 

[whateve]

If I could trouble you with a few more...

Item: VTG COACH 'Willis' Black Leather Messenger Cross-Body Satchel Purse Bag 1212 USA
Listing number: 352549793003
Seller: laceymike
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-COACH-...-Body-Satchel-Purse-Bag-1212-USA/352549793003
Comments: apologies if the photos are too blurry!

Item: Vintage Coach NYC 'Saddle Pouch Large' Black Leather Flap Shoulder Purse 9585
Listing number: 392202192315
Seller: sharon1794
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Co...Leather-Flap-Shoulder-Purse-9585/392202192315

Item: 70s Vintage COACH Classic Purse White Leather Bag Bucket Bag Hobo Purse Festival Boho Motorcycle Mama
Listing number: 528643147
Seller: RowdysTexas
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/528643147/70s-vintage-coach-classic-purse-white

Item: Vintage Coach Handbag Black Leather 1970s 1980s NY Factory
Listing number: 626729305
Seller: TheMagicCanoeCompany
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/626729305/vintage-coach-handbag-black-leather
Comments: I’ve asked for a better picture of the creed.

As always, many thanks for your time and expertise!

All are fine.