Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
    Comments:
BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
Thank you and be safe!
 
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#2,657
BeenBurned said:
WTF is with these experts?

If they become expert by reading guides and owning a bag or two, they need to give it up.

I'm so sorry you're dealing with buyers who accuse first and then ask questions.

FTLOG! You have a 14 day return policy during which they can return any item for any reason! Why the false accusations?

Please either post or PM the buyer IDs so other Coach sellers can block them. (If the buyers apologize and admit their errors, they can be forgiven!) :smile1:

ETA: Tell the buyer who's going to get a professional authentication to make sure the service she uses knows the brand. There are several authentication services that have made many mistakes across multiple brands.
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"ETA: Tell the buyer who's going to get a professional authentication to make sure the service she uses knows the brand. There are several authentication services that have made many mistakes across multiple brands."
She never said she was going to get it authenticated. ON the contrary,
she has no intention of taking it any further because I am a liar and just told me not to make this any more difficult than necessary period.

For the record, my wristlet/wallet IS authentic?
 
#2,658
thecollector629 said:
When it rains it pours!
Got this message and return request just now....

seller: brunodog
auction #151601179303
link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-DAISY...t-Clutch-Wallet-49397-MINT-/151601179303?rd=1

Buyer states: "
I received my item in the mail today and I am extremely disappointed! This item is a FAKE coach wallet! I insist upon returning this item for a FULL refund!"

When I asked why she felt that way......


"The stitching is crooked. Real coach bags have symmetrical stitching. Would you like me to take pictures? I own several coach wallets and the stitching never looks crooked like this. I am very disappointed."

When I asked her to please check it out or give me the opportunity to prove it is real she said I was a liar. I am literally in tears. I think I need a break from this business.
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I'm so sorry you have to go through this.
BeenBurned said:
WTF is with these experts?

If they become expert by reading guides and owning a bag or two, they need to give it up.

I'm so sorry you're dealing with buyers who accuse first and then ask questions.

FTLOG! You have a 14 day return policy during which they can return any item for any reason! Why the false accusations?

Please either post or PM the buyer IDs so other Coach sellers can block them. (If the buyers apologize and admit their errors, they can be forgiven!) :smile1:

ETA: Tell the buyer who's going to get a professional authentication to make sure the service she uses knows the brand. There are several authentication services that have made many mistakes across multiple brands.
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I think many of them do it so they won't have to pay return shipping and a complete refund.

I also think that ebay makes it very easy to push that "not as described" button. There is no consequence to the buyer for a false accusation.
 
#2,661
thecollector629 said:
"ETA: Tell the buyer who's going to get a professional authentication to make sure the service she uses knows the brand. There are several authentication services that have made many mistakes across multiple brands."
She never said she was going to get it authenticated. ON the contrary,
she has no intention of taking it any further because I am a liar and just told me not to make this any more difficult than necessary period.

For the record, my wristlet/wallet IS authentic?
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What a bummer. People can be so awful sometimes! Gives the rest of us decent buyers a bad name.
 
#2,662
BeenBurned said:
I tend to keep records on fake-sellers and according to my records, I first reported fakes from shelbyslittleshop in 2008. Since then, I reported fakes in June, 2013 and again in November, 2014.

She was posted in the hall of shame here:
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...coach-fakes-here-430751-682.html#post24820995

And here's another listing with a J8Y prefix from prior to our knowing that the prefix is only on fakes.
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-763164-216.html#post23109704



I don't recommend a seller who clearly doesn't authenticate her items before listing them nor even after having her account dinged with multiple fakes.
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She replied that she was taking the listing down. Do I need to report the fake somewhere officially?
 
#2,664
title: Coach Brown Leather Satchel
Bonanza item number: 241907409
Seller: shopgirl7232
Link: http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Coach-Brown-Leather-Satchel/241907409

Same item on ebay:
Seller janet9321
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Brown...654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d8e94766
Item 291401975654

I'm interested in opinions on this bag. Was the style even out in 1994?

The creed has me concerned:

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I prepared some side-by-side comps and would like other opinions. (I do have my own opinion!)
 

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#2,665
BeenBurned said:
title: Coach Brown Leather Satchel
Bonanza item number: 241907409
Seller: shopgirl7232
Link: http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Coach-Brown-Leather-Satchel/241907409

Same item on ebay:
Seller janet9321
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Brown...654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d8e94766
Item 291401975654

I'm interested in opinions on this bag. Was the style even out in 1994?

The creed has me concerned:

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I prepared some side-by-side comps and would like other opinions. (I do have my own opinion!)
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This is interesting. I think H4F is a prefix that is on scary "good" fakes, i.e., those with fairly close details and "correct" style number. (Note: I'm not asking about authenticity of this one. It's definitely fake.)

Here's another. The text describes a leather bag but the bag is fabric:
Seller pearlygirl555
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Light-Blue-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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#2,667
Flushpuppy said:
Item: Red Willis Bag
Seller: 53bigbooka
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Coach-W...g-/311313357794?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

Also the creed: (crap! forget how to make this bigger!)

let's try this:
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Although I think that bag is probably okay, the seller, 53bigbooka has a history of mixing.

Here are a couple of previous posts:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...98-114.html?highlight=53bigbooka#post27639448

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-sh...098-75.html?highlight=53bigbooka#post26504601
 
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#2,669
BeenBurned said:
title: Coach Brown Leather Satchel
Bonanza item number: 241907409
Seller: shopgirl7232
Link: http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Coach-Brown-Leather-Satchel/241907409

Same item on ebay:
Seller janet9321
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Brown...654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d8e94766
Item 291401975654

I'm interested in opinions on this bag. Was the style even out in 1994?

The creed has me concerned:

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I prepared some side-by-side comps and would like other opinions. (I do have my own opinion!)
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Fake fake fake.

No, it was NOT out in 1994. It didn't come out until almost 10 years later, Fall of 2003. The Coach logo on the creed is wrong - the letters don't widen out where they're supposed to, the creed stitching isn't right, the strap buckles are made wrong, the entire creed looks burned into the leather and shouldn't be,

The only probably valid H4F- prefix I've ever found was in a style 5356 Candidate Brief which used the same caviar-type leather as the Madisons and came out at the same time. It uses a Times New Roman-type font for the serial number, and it's so completely weird that it has to be genuine, it has the right creed statement for the Madison leather, and the briefcase looks right too. See below.
 

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