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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#23,177
Mes-Low said:
I purchased a handbagage but not sure its authentic.
Day hampton canvas multi stripe
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Hyacinth said:
Genuine Hamptons Stripe Small Carryall made in 2001
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Mes-Low said:
If I wanted to sell, what would be an appropriate price?
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Mes-Low said:
What would be the appropriate price if I wanted to sell it?
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There are several reasons why we can't advise on price.

Depending on demand for the style, condition of the bag as well as other listings for the same item, and timing of the right listing attracting the right buyer, prices can vary widely.

My suggestion is to do a search of current and completed listings for the same style and see what other sellers are asking and what the ones that sold sold for. Search "coach 7713"
 
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Hyacinth said:
Genuine, probably a Soho/Lighweights Delancey Drawstring if it measures about 10 inches long by 12 inches high. In the future, please be sure to provide measurements for classic and vintage bags that don't include letters of the alphabet in the serial number.

Style 4122, early 1990s
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Thank you so much, Hyacinth. I didn't know about posting measurements, I'll make sure to do that in the future. But yes, it is 12 inches by about 9 1/2. I'm so happy to add this to my growing collection. Thank you again!
 
#23,179
RL Bernstein said:
In my continuing efforts to improve my skills at scrutinizing...

Item: Vintage Coach Black Duffle Bucket Bag Crossbody Made In USA
Listing: 112442949330
Seller: jhum1911 (86)
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Coa...949330?hash=item1a2e1f3ed2:g:J~IAAOSwi8VZQVxK
Comments: This ident number does not appear the H-plant stamping peculiarities that have been noted in prior queries. (Though the "H" does look slightly oversized, so does the "J." Also the "-," the "No," and the offset down creed don't look quite right.)

As always, TIA for your expert input and commentary.
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Fake. The strap grommets are silver-color, the ends of the seam binding around the base are sewn together in the wrong spot (and pretty poorly too), and all J8H- serial prefixes have proven so far to be fake because the H code that year was apparently only used by what little remained of the original NYC production area for samples and for making styles that the other factories couldn't manage to fit into their schedules (most of which seem to have been Station Bags), and then only at the beginning of the year 1998.

Here's another example of a fake with that exact serial font (all the J8H- prefixes seem to have exactly the same font), and a surprising number of the J8H- fakes had incorrect style numbers. The H8H- prefix serials are also fake. I also have several photos of obviously fake J8H- prefix bags in styles that wouldn't even be introduced by Coach until 2 or 3 years AFTER that September 1998 date code. .EVERY J8H- and H8H- serial should be considered fake, just like J8Y- serials and J8P- serials with "Made in the United States" creeds. The J month code seems to have been a special favorite with the counterfeiters and extra care should be taken with bags in styles mostly from the mid to late 1990s that use a J month code.

This one is trying to be a 9804 Equestrian Drawstring but with a too-long strap and the style number of a Sling Bag 9929 from around 1993:

1998_H_J8H_FAKE-wrong-style-b.jpg 1998_H_J8H_FAKE-wrong-style-sm.jpg
 
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BeenBurned said:
You are absolutely correct. Report away!
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Hyacinth said:
Fake. The strap grommets are silver-color, the ends of the seam binding around the base are sewn together in the wrong spot (and pretty poorly too), and all J8H- serial prefixes have proven so far to be fake....
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Thank you both for the confirm about both this specific item and all J8H identified bags in general.
 
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whatevany said:
vtg 70'S COACH USA GRT PRICE GLOVE TANNED COWHIDE 614-1824 CROSS SHOULDER PURSE
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/vtg-70S-COA...791829?hash=item2386d26955:g:zeoAAOSwY3BZMCIo
Seller: laurma-98
Comments: Is it really from the 70's and I believe its a Basic bag? Would you guys purchase from someone with 0 feedback, but everyone has to start somewhere. Thank you in advance! :smile:
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It's NOT from the 1970s. The "Made in U.S.A." stamp at the bottom of the creed means ihat it's from between 1988 and 1990 or 1992 at the very latest. It's a genuine Basic Bag.

Please notice under "Return Policy" that the seller doesn't accept returns.
 
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Hi. I am new to this forum and if I am not posting correctly please let me know. I am trying to authenticate and determine the size, name, and style of this bag I have come across at a private estate sale. I have taken some photo's but if you are in need of more information please let me know. Thank you in advance for any help I may receive.DSCF8006.jpg
 

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whatevany said:
vtg 70'S COACH USA GRT PRICE GLOVE TANNED COWHIDE 614-1824 CROSS SHOULDER PURSE
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/vtg-70S-COA...791829?hash=item2386d26955:g:zeoAAOSwY3BZMCIo
Seller: laurma-98
Comments: Is it really from the 70's and I believe its a Basic bag? Would you guys purchase from someone with 0 feedback, but everyone has to start somewhere. Thank you in advance! :smile:
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Hyacinth said:
It's NOT from the 1970s. The "Made in U.S.A." stamp at the bottom of the creed means ihat it's from between 1988 and 1990 or 1992 at the very latest. It's a genuine Basic Bag.

Please notice under "Return Policy" that the seller doesn't accept returns.
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In answer to your question about buying from a 0-feedback new seller, as long as the listing has pictures of her own item in her possession and the item has been deemed authentic, I don't see a problem. It's new sellers with lots of high end items at too-good-to-be-true prices that raise red flags.

The seller's no-return policy is irrelevant if an item isn't "as described." That would mean if it were fake or the condition differed from the description. (While the seller's estimate of age is off, IMO, that's not a huge problem. Many sellers don't know the ages of their items and either estimate or exaggerate it.)
 
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I seem to recall that an "X" in the ident number can be legit if it's in the proper location. I'm assuming that this may not be the case here...

Item: COACH brown leather vintage X LARGE hobo feed sac bucket shoulder handbag USA
Listing: 162543112620
Seller: nhollywoodfinds (965)
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-brown...112620?hash=item25d85311ac:g:NScAAOSwKytZHPQu
Comments: An "X" in the month position? Please remind me when and where an "X" may be plausible (intended Discount store and before the style number?)

As always, TIA for your expert input and commentary.
 
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