Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hello,

I bought this Coach purse from a coach outlet store. Are purses from Coach outlet stores considered authentic. The original tags are also attached. I've attached pictures too. Thank you so much! Laura

As long as you bought it from a brick-and-mortar store located in a legitimate outlet mall in the US, it's genuine.

If you bought it from any other kind of "outlet" or in any other country we'd need to know the details and where the store was located, and if it was a physical store or online.

 

[whateve]

It looks ok to me too.

Thank you!

 

[Hyacinth]

Hi - Would like to get authentication/opinion on this listing.
I don't know if the pics are sufficient.
Thank you!
Auction No.
271777627427
Seller : brendalee281
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-lot-o...427?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f47357d23

Pictures are terrible but I think the first creed (Patricia's Legacy?) is probably fake. I think I spy some silver grommets.

The creed that's easier to read not only has the always- fake serial A8M-4896 - it's not completely clear but it also has a year code 8 with the old "Made in ..." at the bottom and the "scars, scratches veins and wrinkles" wording.

 

[thecollector629]

The creed that's easier to read not only has the always- fake serial A8M-4896 - it's not completely clear but it also has a year code 8 with the old "Made in ..." at the bottom and the "scars, scratches veins and wrinkles" wording.

Thanks, you have better eyes than me, I could not read it!

 

[whateve]

Thanks, you have better eyes than me, I could not read it!

Me either! I knew the spacing, the font, and the cartouche at the top were wrong for a creed with "made in the United States" at the bottom. I thought that might have been an M but I couldn't swear that it wasn't an all-numeric creed.

 

[Hyacinth]

Me either! I knew the spacing, the font, and the cartouche at the top were wrong for a creed with "made in the United States" at the bottom. I thought that might have been an M but I couldn't swear that it wasn't an all-numeric creed.

A lot of the fakes with that number have exactly the same stamping - you learn to recognise it pretty quickly. Here's another fake that's currently listed with a much better creed pic:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRUE-VINTAG...800?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa3426d90

The fake was talked about earlier is below it, notice the too-big cartouche, and the "o" in No is higher than the N. It's easy to spot once you know what to look for. Another pic for your collection.

 

[frenchieRU]

Yeah, I guess I saved the wrong one! She did add it to the listing though, where it's bigger. Thanks.

In order to view a bigger version of eBay message photos here's what you do:
Click the picture, right click on the small version of the picture and select "Copy Image URL" then open a new tab and paste it into the address bar. The small version of the picture will pop up. The file name in the address bar will always end in "(random letters)_0.jpg" Just add a 1 in front of that 0.jpg so it looks like "(random letters)_10.jpg" hit enter and the full sized picture will pop up!

 

[maramd]

Yes!

It's gone. One more fake bag removed!

 

[maramd]

In order to view a bigger version of eBay message photos here's what you do:
Click the picture, right click on the small version of the picture and select "Copy Image URL" then open a new tab and paste it into the address bar. The small version of the picture will pop up. The file name in the address bar will always end in "(random letters)_0.jpg" Just add a 1 in front of that 0.jpg so it looks like "(random letters)_10.jpg" hit enter and the full sized picture will pop up!

You're so clever! Thanks!!

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi - Would like to get authentication/opinion on this listing.
I don't know if the pics are sufficient.
Thank you!
Auction No.
271777627427
Seller : brendalee281
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-lot-o...427?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f47357d23

Pictures are terrible but I think the first creed (Patricia's Legacy?) is probably fake. I think I spy some silver grommets.

You're right, but it's these MESSY listings that allow us to find good deals!
Best to pass on this one I think.
Thank you!

I'll add my 2 cents worth.

The creed font on that first one looks very thick, has what appears to be "marXings" in the text and A8M as the prefix. The size and placement of the M isn't like other US-made bags. The style number appears to be 4818, which isn't the correct style number.

Compare to this US creed, supposedly made at the same time, same plant:

Incidently, 2 other A8M creeds were made in Costa Rica.

 

[frenchieRU]

You're so clever! Thanks!!

Thanks! I found out that trick because I've gotten one too many teeny tiny creed photos from sellers.

 

[maramd]

Thanks! I found out that trick because I've gotten one too many teeny tiny creed photos from sellers.

I always get those postage stamp size creed photos. When a seller replies.

 

[angelinne]

I'm not very familiar with newer styles. I don't see any problems but wait for more opinions. There should be a tiny tag sewn inside the pocket with the serial number.

Thank you very much. Found the Serial Number and it seems to be the right one. =)

 

[Hyacinth]

I'll add my 2 cents worth.

The creed font on that first one looks very thick, has what appears to be "marXings" in the text and A8M as the prefix. The size and placement of the M isn't like other US-made bags. The style number appears to be 4818, which isn't the correct style number.

Compare to this US creed, supposedly made at the same time, same plant:

Incidently, 2 other A8M creeds were made in Costa Rica.

If you mean the two pictures in my post (the second one from the black bag is the one that thecollector629 asked about originally) I think both the pics I posted are the exact same stamping. The lighting on the black one distorts the numbers but when you compare the two the shapes and curves of the numbers are the same. Even the depth of some of the letters in the creed are identical, like the e in "cowhide" and the last two letters in "characteristic". The same fake stamp was used in both. So far every fake with that number seems to have used the same stamp.

Here's an old post from the Ebay Board showing the same exact fake stamping:
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archiv...ic-Vintage-Coach-Bucket-Bag-TIA/td-p/18411913

ETA - here's another old post - same stamp, just showing a little less wear & tear:
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Fashion/Coach-help-again-please/td-p/20316748

There are valid -4896 style numbers but ONLY in a leather Swing Wallet. They wouldn't have had an A8M- prefix because that style had been discontinued by 1998, the last catalog it seems to have been in was Holiday 1996. My Fakes List here at tPF says "A8M-4896 - style number belongs ONLY to an all-leather 7x4 club- or disco-style Swing Wallet on a thin 50-inch strap first made in 1995"

Any -4896 items with Costa Rica creeds should be Swing Wallets and genuine and would have been made in 1995 thru maybe early 1997. A8M- creeds by themselves are no problem and like you said, in January 1998 that plant code was only used for Costa Rica.

 

[Flushpuppy]

In order to view a bigger version of eBay message photos here's what you do:
Click the picture, right click on the small version of the picture and select "Copy Image URL" then open a new tab and paste it into the address bar. The small version of the picture will pop up. The file name in the address bar will always end in "(random letters)_0.jpg" Just add a 1 in front of that 0.jpg so it looks like "(random letters)_10.jpg" hit enter and the full sized picture will pop up!

Thanks! And another question which I don't know where to post, but does anyone know why I'm not getting notifications of replies to my posts anymore? It used to show up under Forums at the top and I'd get an email. But not for the last couple of days and I don't see anywhere to change that.