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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#19,472
BeenBurned said:
I knew the sold bags were fake. I posted them to show the seller's history. The one I questioned was the weird *9G bag.
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It has the same crooked "Coach" inside the cartouche as the other fakes. Whoever made all those fakes knew just enough to change the prefix codes, but they didn't understand what the codes meant and got a lot of them wrong. But the crooked Coach is a dead giveaway.

ETA - here's another apparent fake where the H in Coach is going uphill instead of downhill:
 

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I just want to thank you for your prior authentication. Sorry I didn't get back sooner, but I'm not very tech savvy, I was having phone problems and weather storms over here in the bay area. If you can, please authenticate the following Sutton bag:
COACH SUTTON ~ Black Leather Vintage 3-Compartment Shoulder Bag #9814
eBay item number:
201780526679

Seller information
boristhekat (8359
I'm trying to have the seller send a better picture of the creed. Thank you for all your help
 
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Hyacinth said:
It doesn't look right to me either. The back of the male part of the turnlock looks like it has prongs that come through the leather to the front of that piece to attach it. The coin purses I have like that have a completely different back on the female piece, none have the Coach name stamped like that on the inside, and the shape of the purse itself looks wrong. It's supposed to be a City Bag but it's too round at the base. The very first one they made, style 7248 from 1995, had a smaller rounder base too but the turnlock was bigger than this one The chain for the keyring has too many links too. Below is a pic of the original 7248 from Spring 1995.

There's one pic in my files of the very early version 7248 from 1995 that seems to be genuine and actually does have the handbag-style turnlock with the 4 prongs, but that style of turnlock was replaced in later versions. It doesn't have the Coach logo stamped on the inside though. None of my actual pouches or any of the ones in my photo files do.

Coach played with details on those over the years but I've never seen any with the details we both mentioned. Hard to be 100 percent sure that it's fake, but I know I wouldn't buy it. Those HAVE been faked so it's best to be cautious.
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BeenBurned said:
Another big difference with dstrub1 's item is in the thickness and style of grommet through which the chain and hang tag feed. I've never seen ridges like that.

EDIT: There's also a slight difference in the size and shape of the front of the female part of the turnlock. The side-by-side comparison shows that the seller's item is slightly less elongated (left to right) and slightly thicker.
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Thank you ladies, those were my thoughts exactly. I have 11 of the little city bags in 10 colors and as soon as I saw that bag, it immediately looked 'off ' to me. I think this is the first fake one I've seen.
 
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Suzanne B. said:
Thank you ladies, those were my thoughts exactly. I have 11 of the little city bags in 10 colors and as soon as I saw that bag, it immediately looked 'off ' to me. I think this is the first fake one I've seen.
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And we almost immediately found a second fake. I've seen a few that were questionable. Yesterday I saw a fake daypack key fob.
Do you have a picture of your 11? I'd love to see it.
 
#19,478
kiyakaboom said:
I just want to thank you for you prior authentication. Sorry I didn't get back sooner, but I'm not very tech savvy, I was having phone problems and weather storms over here in the bay area. If you can, please authenticate the following Sutton bag:
COACH SUTTON ~ Black Leather Vintage 3-Compartment Shoulder Bag #9814
eBay item number:
201780526679

Seller information
boristhekat (8359
I'm trying to have the seller send a better picture of the creed. Thank you for all your help
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Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-SUTTO...526679?hash=item2efb0e7e57:g:TXMAAOSwnHZYdaL8
Although I can't read the entire creed, I am 99% sure it is authentic from what I can see. The seller is a member of the forum and often gets her items authenticated here.
 
#19,481
Suzanne B. said:
Thank you ladies, those were my thoughts exactly. I have 11 of the little city bags in 10 colors and as soon as I saw that bag, it immediately looked 'off ' to me. I think this is the first fake one I've seen.
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whateve said:
And we almost immediately found a second fake. I've seen a few that were questionable. Yesterday I saw a fake daypack key fob.
Do you have a picture of your 11? I'd love to see it.
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Give me a few. I think I found another different and odd one.
 
#19,482
Hyacinth said:
I agree about reading those very long threads, but keep something in mind especially with the Answers to Authenticity Questions thread. You don't want to go back more than maybe 3 or 4 years because Coach has changed a lot of details in their bags and other items since that thread was started, and a lot of the older information is out of date. Even something as basic to Coach as stamping serial numbers in their bags was discontinued in 2014.

And reading old posts about authenticating bags does help a lot, but some of the details we use to authenticate are so specific to certain plants, months and years that what can indicate "real" on one bag can indicate "fake" on another. The ONLY way to be sure a bag or any other Coach item is authentic is to post photos. Once you get comfortable with that process it gets easier, but good clear photos are absolutely essential. There are things like lists of problematic or fake serial numbers, but no one can make a list or a cheat sheet of what proves that a Coach is genuine. Every single bag has to be looked at individually because Coach changes things constantly, and different plants sometimes do things differently. There are no shortcuts, which is something that all those "authenticity guides" fouling up the internet never mention..

Here is a set of six Coach Guides posted at Ebay that IS accurate, except for some recent changes like the serial number issue that I mentioned. (The UGGS Guide isn't part of the Coach set).
http://www.ebay.com/gsr/i.html?uid="salearea"&rmvSB=true
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#19,483
Thank you, Hyacinth. The EBay salearea site has been inaccessible the few times I tried to access it but I will keep trying. As to the long posts, I am happy to read and learn. And as I am looking mainly at information on the older bags, that information would still be relevant . When I was in college in the early 60's, I couldn't afford those bags. Now that I can, the new Coach bags don't appeal to me. I like the wonderful thick soft leather of the older bags, along with their classic, simple, unpretentious, timeless lines.
 
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hi there, whateve said she was 99% sure it was authentic, so I while I was waiting for a response from my earlier request on the Sutton bag from 2 hours ago, the seller sent a better picture. Please let me know, thank you.
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