Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[Ravvie99]

It looks okay. It should have a 48 inch adjustable strap with dogleash clips. Probably about 1/2 inch wide.

Yesssss! Thank you - I've been pining for one! Thanks also for the strap info - you knew my next question.

ETA: Thanks also to everyone who ever authenticated a Winnie or got one authenticated here on tPF - I think I looked at all your posts!

 

[likecoach]

Addendum: If a seller's listing is questioned here and is deemed fake, there's no legal basis for a lawsuit against the authenticator. Sellers are required by US trademark law to know items are authentic before listing. If that seller didn't verify authenticity and got caught, that's not the authenticator's fault. And it's certainly not libelous to say "so-and-so's listing is a fake" if that statement is accurate.


Got it. Thank God for that. I most certainly would like the knowledgeable here to authenticate something I am interested in. And it is obvious any 'opinion' can be considered trustworthy here after reading through this site. It's why I joined.

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi all! I'm curious about others' opinions on this seller's charms. Personally, I'm not comfortable at all!

ebay seller: ekc80015

Listing 1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ON-SALE-Coach-Charm-for-European-Bracelets-Necklaces-/262658122791
Item: 262658122791
Note that above listing shows 15 sold and 5 more (ATM) available.

Listing 2: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Charm-on-Purse-Bail-for-European-Bracelets-Necklaces/262617075723
Item: 262617075723
This listing shows 1 already sold and 9 more available.

Listing 3: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-4-Coach-charms-For-Jewelry-Making-scrapbooking-/252612005763
Item: 252612005763
This listing shows 6 available and 5 already sold.

FYI, the seller is also dh11758 on Bonanza.

Images from listings:
View attachment 3568679 View attachment 3568680 View attachment 3568683

I think they are fake. The enameling is uneven. In some places, the silver of the word "Coach" is partially or completely covered up, and it looks chipped.

Duh! I should have read the descriptions more carefully. Each of the ebay listings states the following "disclaimer:"
"This is NOT of any major brands."

So, yes....we were correct!

 

[Hyacinth]

Duh! I should have read the descriptions more carefully. Each of the ebay listings states the following "disclaimer:"
"This is NOT of any major brands."

So, yes....we were correct!

NOW SHE'S TRYING TO SNEAK THEM THROUGH ON COMPLETED BRACELETS WITHOUT MENTIONING COACH IN THE LISTING.
There's only this one so far but I'm sure the others Ebay pulled will show up soon enough.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...3.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=252716370250&_sacat=0

http://www.ebay.com/sch/ekc80015/m.html?item=252716370250&hash=item3ad711c94a:g:zcsAAOSwZQRYcylA&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

There are a ton of fake Disney items too - since when can someone sell a genuine Disney charm for 99 cents and still make a profit? The cheapest charm of ANY kind on the Disney Store site not even including the Pandora styles is around $45.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/On-Sale-Mic...306856?hash=item3ad4622c68:g:-BUAAOSw-0xYSM4E

"These charms are not of any major brand
Check out my other items!For more Authentic Disney Charms!"

 

[BeenBurned]

NOW SHE'S TRYING TO SNEAK THEM THROUGH ON COMPLETED BRACELETS WITHOUT MENTIONING COACH IN THE LISTING.
There's only this one so far but I'm sure the others Ebay pulled will show up soon enough.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...3.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=252716370250&_sacat=0

http://www.ebay.com/sch/ekc80015/m.html?item=252716370250&hash=item3ad711c94a:g:zcsAAOSwZQRYcylA&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

There are a ton of fake Disney items too - since when can someone sell a genuine Disney charm for 99 cents and still make a profit? The cheapest charm of ANY kind on the Disney Store site not even including the Pandora styles is around $45.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/On-Sale-Mic...306856?hash=item3ad4622c68:g:-BUAAOSw-0xYSM4E

"These charms are not of any major brand
Check out my other items!For more Authentic Disney Charms!"

I was sure the Pandora and Disney items were fake but since I don't know those brands enough to report, I didn't report them. I admit to feeling somewhat guilty because I know buyers will be ripped off but I have to accept that we can't save the world.

I also notice that ekc80015 is also using Pandora as the brand in the item specifics so I'm guessing that the charms have "Pandora" markings on them. He's careful not to show those Pandora markings.

I will continue to check and report those with charms I know are fake, those with authenticity disclaimers and suggest that buyers avoid both
eBay seller: ekc80015
and
Bonanza seller: dh11758

ETA: This is one of the suppliers of Disney charms:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/pari719/m.html?_trksid=p3692

 

[Hyacinth]

I was sure the Pandora and Disney items were fake but since I don't know those brands enough to report, I didn't report them. I admit to feeling somewhat guilty because I know buyers will be ripped off but I have to accept that we can't save the world.

I also notice that ekc80015 is also using Pandora as the brand in the item specifics so I'm guessing that the charms have "Pandora" markings on them. He's careful not to show those Pandora markings.

I will continue to check and report those with charms I know are fake, those with authenticity disclaimers and suggest that buyers avoid both
eBay seller: ekc80015
and
Bonanza seller: dh11758

ETA: This is one of the suppliers of Disney charms:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/pari719/m.html?_trksid=p3692

I looked for a current list of VeRO members at Ebay to report the Disney items but couldn't find one. The link I have must be at least 6 or 8 years old and there's nothing that looks like it could be for a Disney rep. All I could do was send an email to [email protected]

I doubt if we'll see any results from that, they must get hundreds of reports a day.

BTW, are all genuine Pandora and Pandora-authorized charms and beads sterling silver, or do they use cheaper metals too?

 

[BeenBurned]

I looked for a current list of VeRO members at Ebay to report the Disney items but couldn't find one. The link I have must be at least 6 or 8 years old and there's nothing that looks like it could be for a Disney rep. All I could do was send an email to [email protected]

I doubt if we'll see any results from that, they must get hundreds of reports a day.

BTW, are all genuine Pandora and Pandora-authorized charms and beads sterling silver, or do they use cheaper metals too?

Here's the VeRO list but members aren't required to have ebay accounts stating that status and in fact, don't even need to use ebay. ANY rights owner can apply for VeRO or if they don't apply, they can submit a DMCA complaint.
http://vero.ebay.com/

In answer to your question about metals used by Pandora, for charms, they use sterling silver and 14k gold. Some charms have gemstones and/or enameling. There are also 2-tone metals and Pandora rose with is a rosegold colored metal. The prices of "Pandora rose" indicate that it's not gold.

ETA: I don't see either Disney or Pandora on the ebay list of Vero reps but I know both are very protective of their brands.

 

[usMichigann]

Wondering about this bag & wallet set
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Purse...b058bbe&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=122296173434

SELLER: jdjkow10
Coach Purse and Wallet
I don't know if the creed patch is clear enough to tell anything for sure

 

[Hyacinth]

Here's the VeRO list but members aren't required to have ebay accounts stating that status and in fact, don't even need to use ebay. ANY rights owner can apply for VeRO or if they don't apply, they can submit a DMCA complaint.
http://vero.ebay.com/

In answer to your question about metals used by Pandora, for charms, they use sterling silver and 14k gold. Some charms have gemstones and/or enameling. There are also 2-tone metals and Pandora rose with is a rosegold colored metal. The prices of "Pandora rose" indicate that it's not gold.

ETA: I don't see either Disney or Pandora on the ebay list of Vero reps but I know both are very protective of their brands.

Thanks, BB. I wish there was an easy way to contact them.

 

[whateve]

Wondering about this bag & wallet set
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Purse-and-Wallet/112260028733?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=40832&meid=0ca8890a9ef54d57a63503e9fb058bbe&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=122296173434

SELLER: jdjkow10
Coach Purse and Wallet
I don't know if the creed patch is clear enough to tell anything for sure

It looks good to me. More opinions are welcome.

 

[usMichigann]

It looks good to me. More opinions are welcome.

Thank You!

 

[BeenBurned]

Here's the VeRO list but members aren't required to have ebay accounts stating that status and in fact, don't even need to use ebay. ANY rights owner can apply for VeRO or if they don't apply, they can submit a DMCA complaint.
http://vero.ebay.com/

Thanks, BB. I wish there was an easy way to contact them.

Pandora: http://www.pandora.net/en-us/company/brand-protection/report-violations

REPORTING BRAND AND PRODUCT VIOLATIONS
PANDORA will continue to fight those who attempt to abuse our name and brand to sell counterfeit products and deceive our customers, and our Brand Protection team maintains the highest standards of brand protection. But we also need your help. As a consumer, you are an extremely valuable means of defence in our efforts to protect the PANDORA brand, and we ask for your help with identifying and reporting sellers of fake PANDORA products.

If you discover auctions sites, web pages, bazars, retail shops or adverts in magazines, leaflets or newspapers appearing to be selling counterfeit PANDORA products, please report the link and details in English to our Brand Protection team at [email protected].

Thank you - we appreciate your help in protecting the PANDORA brand and products.

It looks good to me. More opinions are welcome.

Looks good to me too.

 

[Ravvie99]

Hello again, I have another good one for you! Would you double check this beauty, please? Thank you!

Item: Courier
Seller: local seller off Offerup app
Dimensions: about 9.5 square x 4.5 deep, max strap drop=14
Comments: A few wobble stitches but I won't worry unless you tell me I should

ETA: it's in my possession

 

[blackcat22]

Item: City zip tote
Listing number: 182407000730
Seller: chicandpanache

• Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/182407000730?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
  Comments: Thought I'd take a gamble, but it seems super fishy now that I'm actually holding it.

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[Hyacinth]

Wondering about this bag & wallet set
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Purse-and-Wallet/112260028733?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=40832&meid=0ca8890a9ef54d57a63503e9fb058bbe&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=122296173434

SELLER: jdjkow10
Coach Purse and Wallet
I don't know if the creed patch is clear enough to tell anything for sure

It looks good to me. More opinions are welcome.

It looks good to me too. The bag is some kind of Bleecker, not sure about the wallet's "family".