Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

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  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
    Link:
    Comments:

  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#16,968
Catbird9 said:
Could someone please have a look at this one. Thanks!
Seller: igotadeal4you
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Aut...668572?hash=item1c6ee6435c:g:nM4AAOSwFe5Xzyx4
Comments: Creed font looks wrong; long underscore on the "o" in "No"; font and spacing of serial number; back of turn lock plate has indents.
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It's fake.

Compare the creed on igotadeal4you's fake to this authentic one from what would be the same month/year/plant:

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The following is genuine.
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BeenBurned said:
I can't read the creeds. (I'm not sure whether the pics are supposed to enlarge but I can't get them to work.) But if the first one is copied correctly, the bag is fake. For the other, the creed needs to be legible.
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Thank you! I suspected at least one fake. This person has a white bag listed which is definitely fake with a Creed that starts with NT.
BeenBurned said:
I can't read the creeds. (I'm not sure whether the pics are supposed to enlarge but I can't get them to work.) But if the first one is copied correctly, the bag is fake. For the other, the creed needs to be legible.
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#16,975
houseof999 said:
Items: two briefcases
Seller: Tityconteh
Creeds: M4N-6156 & 0211-319
Link: https://item.mercari.com/gl/m848308947/
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BeenBurned said:
I can't read the creeds. (I'm not sure whether the pics are supposed to enlarge but I can't get them to work.) But if the first one is copied correctly, the bag is fake. For the other, the creed needs to be legible.
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houseof999 said:
Thank you! I suspected at least one fake. This person has a white bag listed which is definitely fake with a Creed that starts with NT.
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I was able to enlarge the creed photos using a right-click. The serial number in the black one is actually M4N-4154 which is on both Fakes Lists. 4154 is a Soho sequence but never seems to have been used in a genuine bag of any kind and is always fake.
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-Part-2-/10000000179041909/g.html

From Part 2 of Daria48's Guide:
"M4N-4154 - Update:

Enough evidence has been found to say that the above serial number is ALWAYS FAKE, no exceptions. Not only was the N plant in the US apparently opened only for a very brief time if it was ever opened here at all, but it had apparently closed long before the end of 1994 (the fake date code is for December 1994). No genuine Coach handbag has ever been found with that 4154 style number. And every bag we've found that number in not only has serious production mistakes and date irregularities and are never the same styles, but so far the creed seems to always have "SCRTCHES" misspelled."
 
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houseof999 said:
@Hyacinth I've reported the white bag several times. Mercari won't do anything about it.
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You may want to write to the site owners that since they refuse to remove fakes when reported by users and confirmed at a major handbag site by TWO of its qualified authenticators, you can't trust them to prevent buyers from being cheated and will do your shopping somewhere else from now on. And then DO IT. You might also send them the link to Daria48's 2 Fake Coach Number Guides at Ebay, although I'm sure they won't bother reading them.

http://www.ebay.com/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-NT-4903-and-more-/10000000002744619/g.html

Fake Coach Serial Numbers, Part 2
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-Part-2-/10000000179041909/g.html
 
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Hyacinth said:
I was able to enlarge the creed photos using a right-click. The serial number in the black one is actually M4N-4154 which is on both Fakes Lists. 4154 is a Soho sequence but never seems to have been used in a genuine bag of any kind and is always fake.
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Fake-Coach-Serial-Numbers-Part-2-/10000000179041909/g.html

From Part 2 of Daria48's Guide:
"M4N-4154 - Update:

Enough evidence has been found to say that the above serial number is ALWAYS FAKE, no exceptions. Not only was the N plant in the US apparently opened only for a very brief time if it was ever opened here at all, but it had apparently closed long before the end of 1994 (the fake date code is for December 1994). No genuine Coach handbag has ever been found with that 4154 style number. And every bag we've found that number in not only has serious production mistakes and date irregularities and are never the same styles, but so far the creed seems to always have "SCRTCHES" misspelled."
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Thank you. It did enlarge by right-clicking! (I never knew that!)

I'm not questioning the authenticity of the bag on Mercari (which seems to be like ioffer, listia, poshmark and other sites that don't care about protecting members) but for the record, that "N" plant code is another pesky one that has gotten around!

This post shows authentic US N bags from March and May, 1994, Chinese-made from 2005 and in a previous post #13366,
the Mexican plant was used from 1998-2000. So apparently, was opened for a short while.
http://forum.purseblog.com/threads/answers-to-authenticity-questions.94198/page-103#post-30303836
 
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Daisy May said:
Item: Coach Weston tote
Seller: Etsy--COACHCROSSING
Link: https://www.etsy.com/listing/274642254/vintage-coach-11-x-11-weston-dark-brown

Comments: Please authenticate this bag for me. It is such an unusual,funky, cool bag and I want it! Lol
Thank you
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A seller who lists and sells as many Coach items as COACHCROSSING does should know the importance of SHOWING a full and legible picture of the creed in her listings. Clearly, she knows the creeds and serial numbers are important because in a number of listings, she describes the serial number though often not showing it.

The listing in question has inadequate pictures, particularly since it doesn't show the creed.

That said, I looked at her other listings and I question this one which does show the serial number though I can't read the text on the creed too well. The font doesn't appear correct for 1999 and the N plant. (perhaps showing this creed was a mistake!)
https://www.etsy.com/listing/290615217/vintage-coach-9-x-5-cameltan-leather?ref=shop_home_active_12
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Side by side comparison to authentic bag from same year/plant:

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