Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

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Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:
  • Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
  • Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
  • FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
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    Listing number:
    Seller and site where listed
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  • FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
    Item:
    Where purchased or how obtained
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BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.
  • Front of item
  • Back of item
  • Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
  • Made in tags (when available)
  • Measurements
  • For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
  • For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
  • If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.
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#16,036
Hyacinth said:
I have NO idea what purse you think you saw that exact serial number on, but the bag in the listing is completely genuine. I REALLY hope you haven't reported it?

Did you ever stop to consider that maybe the OTHER bag you saw was a fake - assuming the serial numbers were exactly the same, of course? Or maybe the serial number was actually different?

Relying strictly on the memory of a number seen maybe once that you don't have in front of you is NOT a valid reason for reporting a seller. Human memory is flawed and fallible, DON'T depend on it

ETA - I just checked Completed listings at Ebay - not only are there 3 identical GENUINE Scarf Print bags with the same style number, but there are two obvious fakes with the identical number too. One is a fake Poppy Demi with a black-on-black Signature pattern that Coach NEVER made and that has a really bad Poppy applique, and the other is another obvious fake, a Tattersall bag with a crooked pattern that's not the same as Coach's genuine Tattersall, an off-center badly sewn emblem on the pocket (a style that Coach never made) and a cheap acetate lining with the creed patch in the wrong place, and really bad stitching all over the bag especially on the "leather" trim.

Always ask here before reporting, and always check the Completed listings at Ebay as well as the current ones.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-baguette-C05M-8F34-BLACK-with-multi-color-flower-/282101559337?hash=item41ae903029:g:8z8AAOSwARZXiCyk&nma=true&si=Td8T9mipKeAb%2BErmyOZSTwCxhTk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-Authe...689299?hash=item567f76f2d3:g:emMAAOSwfZ1WaciB
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BeenBurned said:
The bag is authentic. This is Coach's stock pic of 8F34.

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BeenBurned said:
In fact, 8F34 is a style number that is often seen on fakes.

At the bottom of this post, I commented on a fake 8F34 and posted a picture of what it should look like:
http://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.535153/page-28#post-13476568

Here's an example OF A FAKE:

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Thank you for responding, ladies.

No, I have not reported the bag - I posted this question first, which means I wasn't sure whether it was fake or authentic. When I'm positive it's counterfeit, I go straight to the Hall of Shame.

And yes, I always check completed eBay auctions - in fact, this is where I saw the other bag. Since I know that in many cases different bags with identical numbers are both fake, and since stitching on the scarf tote seemed pretty sloppy to me (in addition to uneven shape of the creed), that made me think I have to ask the experts.

Here's Optic Carly with identical creed number I was talking about:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-purse...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
#16,039
CoachHarvey said:
Good morning ladies: asking for help as I cannot find specific answers to this question on TPF. With regard to the Curtis Bag Style 9975, what colors were offered on this particular bag? I have only seen black and the color in the attached pic for your reference. Is it listed in the 1996 Catalog? Thank you in advance for your help. My apologies in advance if posted in wrong place. Other sections state no questions were allowed, which lead me back here.
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Here's a copy of the catalog page from Spring 1996. I don't like to guess colors for reasons I've talked about before, but this looks like Taupe

9975_Curtis Bag Spr1996-b.jpg
 
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#16,042
Couturexec said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/142054084846

Is it possible to authenticate this hanging thing?

Thank you for your time!
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If it's genuine it's probably a charm taken from a bag and a clip added to make it a sort of bracelet if your wrist is small enough. We've never found verifiable clear front and back pictures of a known genuine one that we could be confident enough about to use for comparison. So although there don't seem to be any obvious problems I'm really not comfortable authenticating it. And even if it's a genuine charm from a bag, it's not in the same condition as it originally came in.

ETA - The seller also has a large variety of hangtags for sale, and when I see that I wonder how they've been acquired. If they're taken off bags she has for sale, that's unfair to the buyers of the bags. If they're gotten free from Coach, that's not right either and similar actions by sellers who do exactly that is one of the reasons that Coach only makes the generic metal ones available at no cost now. There are also less reputable ways of getting hangtags which I won't go into. And it doesn't help that at least one of the hangtags appears to be fake based on the poor quality of the stitching.

And looking at the seller's Completed listings, I can't help but wonder how she managed to acquire so many Carriage Charms. AFAIK, those weren't sold separately on ball chains.
JMO, your mileage may vary.
 
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#16,044
Hyacinth said:
If it's genuine it's probably a charm taken from a bag and a clip added to make it a sort of bracelet if your wrist is small enough. We've never found verifiable clear front and back pictures of a known genuine one that we could be confident enough about to use for comparison. So although there don't seem to be any obvious problems I'm really not comfortable authenticating it. And even if it's a genuine charm from a bag, it's not in the same condition as it originally came in.

ETA - The seller also has a large variety of hangtags for sale, and when I see that I wonder how they've been acquired. If they're taken off bags she has for sale, that's unfair to the buyers of the bags. If they're gotten free from Coach, that's not right either and similar actions by sellers who do exactly that is one of the reasons that Coach only makes the generic metal ones available at no cost now. There are also less reputable ways of getting hangtags which I won't go into. And it doesn't help that at least one of the hangtags appears to be fake based on the poor quality of the stitching.

And looking at the seller's Completed listings, I can't help but wonder how she managed to acquire so many Carriage Charms. AFAIK, those weren't sold separately on ball chains.
JMO, your mileage may vary.
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Well, that'll definitely make ya think!
I'll pass on it then.
I was thinking I would use the pieces as a hangtag on an old bag that's missing the original. I've been cruising eBay looking for some to buy for rehabbing.
Thanks for all your time.
 
#16,045
catthecurious said:
Thank you for responding, ladies.

No, I have not reported the bag - I posted this question first, which means I wasn't sure whether it was fake or authentic. When I'm positive it's counterfeit, I go straight to the Hall of Shame.

And yes, I always check completed eBay auctions - in fact, this is where I saw the other bag. Since I know that in many cases different bags with identical numbers are both fake, and since stitching on the scarf tote seemed pretty sloppy to me (in addition to uneven shape of the creed), that made me think I have to ask the experts.

Here's Optic Carly with identical creed number I was talking about:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-purse-and-wristlet-set-/272245509595?hash=item3f6318cddb:g:7LIAAOSwiylXAeHi&nma=true&si=p0uXRCNaPPSOiyePcQSsQFmhXn4%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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The "Optic Carly" is another obvious fake. The fabric looks super-thin and really cheap, and the C lining should be a dead giveaway even if everything else on it was ok. That one could have been reported without even checking here just based on the C lining, but a fake sold in May is past the date limit for reporting..
 
#16,046
This is my first time on this forum and I hope I do this correctly. I purchased a couple of Coaches from an online Goodwill Stores auction. I am sure that one is authentic, but am having second thoughts about the second. I'm hoping someone on here can help. The thing that has me worried is that there is no serial number anywhere in the bag. It is a newer one and I also don't know the style name. Everything else seems to say it's authentic. The "C"s match up, the construction seems sound, the material is not flimsy. The link to the purse in question is: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=31343260. If needed, I can upload pictures that I have taken. Thank you in advance!
 
#16,047
catthecurious said:
Thank you for responding, ladies.

No, I have not reported the bag - I posted this question first, which means I wasn't sure whether it was fake or authentic. When I'm positive it's counterfeit, I go straight to the Hall of Shame.

And yes, I always check completed eBay auctions - in fact, this is where I saw the other bag. Since I know that in many cases different bags with identical numbers are both fake, and since stitching on the scarf tote seemed pretty sloppy to me (in addition to uneven shape of the creed), that made me think I have to ask the experts.

Here's Optic Carly with identical creed number I was talking about:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-purse-and-wristlet-set-/272245509595?hash=item3f6318cddb:g:7LIAAOSwiylXAeHi&nma=true&si=p0uXRCNaPPSOiyePcQSsQFmhXn4%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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Hyacinth said:
The "Optic Carly" is another obvious fake. The fabric looks super-thin and really cheap, and the C lining should be a dead giveaway even if everything else on it was ok. That one could have been reported without even checking here just based on the C lining, but a fake sold in May is past the date limit for reporting..
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A Carly is too recent of a style to have 4 digit style number. Manufacturers of fakes often use real numbers on the wrong bags. There are certain numbers that Coach never used and that are only on fakes. Usually these are obvious.
 
#16,048
DS Novak said:
This is my first time on this forum and I hope I do this correctly. I purchased a couple of Coaches from an online Goodwill Stores auction. I am sure that one is authentic, but am having second thoughts about the second. I'm hoping someone on here can help. The thing that has me worried is that there is no serial number anywhere in the bag. It is a newer one and I also don't know the style name. Everything else seems to say it's authentic. The "C"s match up, the construction seems sound, the material is not flimsy. The link to the purse in question is: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=31343260. If needed, I can upload pictures that I have taken. Thank you in advance!
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It's fine. Smaller bags or pouches like this didn't normally have a creed number.
Here is some more information: http://www.ebay.com/gds/Coach-Authenticity-Guides-Facts-and-Myths-/10000000062607882/g.html
 
#16,050
whateve said:
That creed is perfect for 1995 and the B factory. You can't compare creeds from different factories and expect them to be the same. Most of the older creeds tend to be very crisp like this. The overstamping marks above and below the numbers is normal since they were on a roller. The "made in" line along the bottom was changed to the newer format with that information in the body of the creed between 1994 and 1996, but not all plants changed to the new format at the same time.
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