Authenticate This COACH - **see first post for format**

[Vlad]

IMPORTANT READ-ME

Please post authenticity questions related to COACH in this thread. No PMs please.
For further information, please refer to the first post on page 1 of this thread.

Please follow the following requests:

• Before you submit a request for authentication, please search this thread to make sure that the item has not previously been authenticated by searching the seller ID and/or item number. This is not a thread to ask general questions about COACH, please refer to our main Coach forum for such information.
• Note that authenticators have the right to refuse any requests. This is a free service, but it is imperative that you help our authenticators by using the following format:
• FOR ITEMS LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Listing number:
  Seller and site where listed
  Link:
  Comments:
  
  
• FOR ITEMS NOT LISTED ONLINE:
  Item:
  Where purchased or how obtained
  Comments:

BASIC PICTURES REQUIRED (but more may be requested): If necessary pictures are in the listing, it's not necessary to upload and duplicate them.

• Front of item
• Back of item
• Full clear and legible creed text and serial number
• Made in tags (when available)
• Measurements
• For bags with turnlock closures, show pictures of back of female side of turnlock
• For bags with magnetic snaps, show pictures of the male part of the snap so that the numbers and letters on it can be read
• If applicable, search interior of bag and/or pockets for small white tag with production information and include a picture of that.

Thank you and be safe!

 

[tas_lawas]

Hi... Would you help to authenticate this bag? It's my friend's bag. She thinks it's fake.
Thanks

 

[tas_lawas]

And also this one. It's mine. Thank you...


* If it's a real one, can I also know it's name/style. Once again.. Thank you

 

[BeenBurned]

Hi... Would you help to authenticate this bag? It's my friend's bag. She thinks it's fake.
Thanks
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Did she say why she thinks it's fake?

It's an authentic signature carryall from 2004.

 

[BeenBurned]

And also this one. It's mine. Thank you...
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* If it's a real one, can I also know it's name/style. Once again.. Thank you

It looks okay. Madison leather chain tote is the style (20466), I believe.

 

[Morrigan3]

If something's fake, we say so right up front.

The six Salearea Coach Guides at Ebay can explain how to read Coach's date codes

http://search.reviews.ebay.com/members/salearea_W0QQcpnameZmembersQQprZsaleareaQQuqtZg

Thanks, Hyacinth, for the Six Salearea guides. I printed them out, although I will probably have better luck teaching myself Mandarin... I will keep reading and taking notes until it seeps in.
Oh, and does anyone have the ability to get that Ebay, Coach Authentication Guide, that insists on YKK zippers, removed or edited? I know 2 other re-sellers and they always look for the YKK zippers as a 1st rule. I keep telling them to come to this site, but resale is not that easy.

In the meantime, I hope you mods don't mind being bombarded with 'authenticate this' posts. I try to reference past posts, but usually the only pictures were in a sale that was deleted, so, it doesn't give much to go by, unfortunately. ;/

 

[Paintingneko]

Item: Coach Swagger
Listing number:231955888711 (ebay)
Seller: shopheroic
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Coach-S...888711?hash=item3601a5fa47:g:vYQAAOSwa81XReTj
Comments: Does this look authentic?

 

[BeenBurned]

Item: Coach Swagger
Listing number:231955888711 (ebay)
Seller: shopheroic
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Coach-S...888711?hash=item3601a5fa47:g:vYQAAOSwa81XReTj
Comments: Does this look authentic?

I'm not comfortable with that bag from that seller.

For any Coach, the pictures aren't adequate for authenticating. But for a style as well-faked as this, there would need to be a ton of VERY clear and close pictures of the bag and it's details.

As is posted on another thread, the Swagger style is highly faked and very closely faked. ALthough this seller isn't one of those mentioned as being part of a suspected ring of sellers, shopheroic doesn't appear to sell a lot of Coach and I'm not sure she'd recognize a close fake. (This is not meant to disparage the seller but point out how close the fakes are.)

See post #1 for the required pictures for authentication requests and if the seller is willing to comply and supply very clear pictures, I will look again.

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach/warning-swaggers-912206.html

 

[tas_lawas]

Did she say why she thinks it's fake?

It's an authentic signature carryall from 2004.

Her friend saw her with this bag and said it looked so fake. Then asked her the serial number. She will search at google. The next day she told my friend that her bag is absolut fake.
Thanks to you we can tell her 'fake? Oo really... '
Thank you so much BeenBurned!

 

[whateve]

Thanks, Hyacinth, for the Six Salearea guides. I printed them out, although I will probably have better luck teaching myself Mandarin... I will keep reading and taking notes until it seeps in.
Oh, and does anyone have the ability to get that Ebay, Coach Authentication Guide, that insists on YKK zippers, removed or edited? I know 2 other re-sellers and they always look for the YKK zippers as a 1st rule. I keep telling them to come to this site, but resale is not that easy.

In the meantime, I hope you mods don't mind being bombarded with 'authenticate this' posts. I try to reference past posts, but usually the only pictures were in a sale that was deleted, so, it doesn't give much to go by, unfortunately. ;/

When getting a bag authenticated, it isn't really a good idea for you to reference past posts if you are trying to find one like yours. There could be subtle differences between your bag and another so just because you think it looks like another one posted doesn't mean that they are the same. We need to see your exact bag in order to authenticate it. We don't mind answering AT requests usually. It takes a long time to learn everything we know, and we are still learning. We have a lot of information in our personal files that isn't in the guides. If you want to be sure if your bag is authentic, you should post a request rather than try to do it yourself.

I don't think ebay cares that half their guides are wrong.

 

[vintagecoachie]

Picked up this fixer-upper, can you confirm authentic? Since this bag is older, do you know a ballpark for when it was made?

- NY made bag 739-5835 (name?)
- In my possession
- 8"x6" with adjustable crossbody strap, two interior slip pockets and a back slip pocket

 

[BeenBurned]

I don't think ebay cares that half their guides are wrong.

I agree.

In fact, in the past, there was a box in guides where you could vote for or against the helpfulness of guides.

Ebay removed the ability give a guide an "unhelpful" vote. If they really cared, they wouldn't have removed that feature.

 

[Hyacinth]

Thanks, Hyacinth, for the Six Salearea guides. I printed them out, although I will probably have better luck teaching myself Mandarin... I will keep reading and taking notes until it seeps in.
Oh, and does anyone have the ability to get that Ebay, Coach Authentication Guide, that insists on YKK zippers, removed or edited? I know 2 other re-sellers and they always look for the YKK zippers as a 1st rule. I keep telling them to come to this site, but resale is not that easy.

In the meantime, I hope you mods don't mind being bombarded with 'authenticate this' posts. I try to reference past posts, but usually the only pictures were in a sale that was deleted, so, it doesn't give much to go by, unfortunately. ;/

One important thing to remember is that eventually, MOST information in any Guide, no matter how accurate it was when it was written, can change over time. Coach constantly changes details of things like creeds, straps, hangtags, serial numbers, etc. For instance the Salearea Guides emphasize that full size bags should have serial numbers - unfortunately, Coach made an incredibly DUMB and short-sighted move in 2014 and eliminated stamped serial numbers from all creeds, so that proviso has changed just in the last 5 years. Now you have to burrow deep inside one of the inside pockets to find a tiny white tag that has the production codes and style number, instead of stamping it right on the creed patch where it could also be used as an authentication tool.

As has already been said, there's no way of fitting every little detail we look at into ANY guide. The best thing to do is let the experts here take a look - each style has its own details that need to be examined. Trying to self-authenticate can be very dangerous, as some tPF members have found out.

 

[Hyacinth]

Picked up this fixer-upper, can you confirm authentic? Since this bag is older, do you know a ballpark for when it was made?

- NY made bag 739-5835 (name?)
- In my possession
- 8"x6" with adjustable crossbody strap, two interior slip pockets and a back slip pocket

It looks like a genuine Collegiate Bag, style 9815, introduced in 1988, possibly made in late 1987 or early 1988..

 

[vintagecoachie]

It looks like a genuine Collegiate Bag, style 9815, introduced in 1988, possibly made in late 1987 or early 1988..

Aw it's as old as I am! Neat! Once again, thank you for your help!!

 

[Pinky T]

Please, is this authentic? Thank you.