Ashley Graham - "plus sized" Sports Illustrated cover

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I will always find it very interesting how women are so much more bothered by another woman's body than men. Be it breastfeeding, braless, in a thong bikini, not so perfect post baby body, sagging boobs post baby or anyone of the negative comments from the vast catalog of criticisms consistently made here on a daily basis...it's just fascinating, to me at least. I just don't know how some of it doesn't slip into one's psyche and I often wonder, sometimes, if some of it is a product of group think. The marketing of how women should be through religion, politics, magazines, the fashion industry, the beauty industry, etc has certainly done a number. Just random thoughts....this is what happens when you quit your job...lol.


Anyway, carry on....what's that about Ashley's saggy ass again?
 
I will always find it very interesting how women are so much more bothered by another woman's body than men. Be it breastfeeding, braless, in a thong bikini, not so perfect post baby body, sagging boobs post baby or anyone of the negative comments from the vast catalog of criticisms consistently made here on a daily basis...it's just fascinating, to me at least. I just don't know how some of it doesn't slip into one's psyche and I often wonder, sometimes, if some of it is a product of group think. The marketing of how women should be through religion, politics, magazines, the fashion industry, the beauty industry, etc has certainly done a number. Just random thoughts....this is what happens when you quit your job...lol.


Anyway, carry on....what's that about Ashley's saggy ass again?

Good post! Women have been reduced solely to babymaking machines, and regaled for primarily their appearance only, which has to conform to a certain standard. Through the spheres you mentioned above, they are viewed through this very narrow lens, their (our) potential remains astonishingly untapped. I don't know if the gossip section of a celeb forum is the place to discuss this though, lol. But what Ashley is doing to make the not-skinny feel more comfortable and accepted, is getting sidelined by the 'zomg she's faaaaat!!' noise.
 
To be fair, skinny gals can have saggy bottoms too. Also, I didn't know Ashley had a baby, so not sure what that comment is about.

If a fat man with a saggy ass wore a thong bikini, I would comment on that too. It's not gender specific, but the subject here is female.
 
To be fair, skinny gals can have saggy bottoms too. Also, I didn't know Ashley had a baby, so not sure what that comment is about.

If a fat man with a saggy ass wore a thong bikini, I would comment on that too. It's not gender specific, but the subject here is female.
Ashley doesn't have a baby. No one mentioned her having a baby. Which comment are you referring to?
 
I'm actually referring to you, miss berry. when you mentioned that women are critical of other women's post-baby bodies & just of not-so-perfect bodies in general.
My comment was general about comments made on this board not localized to this thread. I didn't single out yours in particular hence me not quoting anyone. Perhaps reread it with that context....not sure why you feel it was specific to anything you said.
 
I will always find it very interesting how women are so much more bothered by another woman's body than men. Be it breastfeeding, braless, in a thong bikini, not so perfect post baby body, sagging boobs post baby or anyone of the negative comments from the vast catalog of criticisms consistently made here on a daily basis...it's just fascinating, to me at least. I just don't know how some of it doesn't slip into one's psyche and I often wonder, sometimes, if some of it is a product of group think. The marketing of how women should be through religion, politics, magazines, the fashion industry, the beauty industry, etc has certainly done a number. Just random thoughts....this is what happens when you quit your job...lol.


Anyway, carry on....what's that about Ashley's saggy ass again?
IDK about that
some men are pretty critical
My DH is. If we see a woman who we haven't seen for a while and she's put on weight, he's the first to notice and estimate how much. "She's gained 30 lbs!"
 
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IDK about that
some men are pretty critical
My DH is. If we see a woman who we haven't seen for a while and she's put on weight, he's the first to notice and estimate how much. "She's gained 30 lbs!"
I didn't suggest men aren't critical....I'm suggesting that from, my experience, women are far more critical and we do it so often that it's almost second nature to us. A woman walking down the street without a bra doesn't draw the same level of criticism from a man as it does a woman. A woman breastfeeding in public is less bothersome to men than it is to women. Obviously, I'm making general observations...maybe my post wasn't clear....dunno.
 
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I didn't suggest men aren't critical....I'm suggesting that from, my experience, women are far more critical and we do it so often that it's almost second nature to us.
you may be right in general but I don't know if you can really generalize. some men are quite critical and some women are more forgiving. When it comes to people IRL I think my DH is more critical than I am. I tend to be a bit more forgiving if it's someone I like. There is one woman I don't like who's put on a lot of weight and I find I don't mind criticizing her so much :blush:
With celebs, if they're being presented as an example of beauty it's easy to criticize them
 
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