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#316
Wow, I have Apple conditioned all of my wallets (ranging from light to dark colors) and have never seen a problem like that occur! I know you should not use Apple cleaner on coach leather. Just the conditioner. I am afraid that the color has permanently lifted off of that beautiful mauve wallet. Maybe she rubbed too hard and too much on that spot. I don't know what can be done for it.
 
#317
bunnymasseuse said:
I do believe what you are seeing is the underside beneath the colored top. It is also possible that the wallet rubbed up against something and caught the color, but conditioning won't lighten it if it really is the under color beneath the purple. If it's a stain, then it SHOULD lighten, but no guarantees.

If you rub on hard on QUITE a few bags/items you will find that the color is not as perm. as you might think, and with any abrasive rubbing (soft cloth hopefully was used!) you have the chance to rub to hard and break the surface color.

I had a pebbled bag that if I rubbed to hard I was actually rubbing off the top color/buff and exposing the other layer, so yes, hard rubbing and consistent can break the surface protection.
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Oh no! I'm not sure how that could have happened. I believe that my sister conditioned the rest of the wallet without any problem though.

She showed me the cloth that she used. While it seems soft enough, of all the colours in the world, she had to use a (light) pink coloured cloth, which basically means that I can't ascertain whether there is any colour transfer on the cloth.

Is there anything that I can do? Can I try any other method to remove the stain (if it is a stain) or do have to live with it? Is it possible to redye the leather? How can I tell for sure if the stain is actually the colour showing from beneath?
 
#318
oopsididitagain said:
Wow, I have Apple conditioned all of my wallets (ranging from light to dark colors) and have never seen a problem like that occur! I know you should not use Apple cleaner on coach leather. Just the conditioner. I am afraid that the color has permanently lifted off of that beautiful mauve wallet. Maybe she rubbed too hard and too much on that spot. I don't know what can be done for it.
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I didn't know that I am not supposed to use Apple cleaner on Coach leather. Is there a reason for this?

I don't remember for certain now, but the picture could have been taken before Apple cleaner was used. Post cleaning, the 'stain' could have become slightly lighter, but I'm not sure.
 
#319
I've read here on the Coach subforum about Apple and people say do not use the Apple cleaner. It will lift the dye. I don't even buy the cleaner. Just the conditioner. I suppose I would use the cleaner on some old leather shoes that were filthy but not Coach things.
 
#320
oopsididitagain said:
I've read here on the Coach subforum about Apple and people say do not use the Apple cleaner. It will lift the dye. I don't even buy the cleaner. Just the conditioner. I suppose I would use the cleaner on some old leather shoes that were filthy but not Coach things.
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I have lightly use the apple cleaner on my legacy items and have had no issues. Same goes for some of my classic bags I've gotten from consignment shops, they have also been cleaned w/ apple cleaner and had no issues.
 
#321
tastangan said:
Is there anything that I can do? Can I try any other method to remove the stain (if it is a stain) or do have to live with it? Is it possible to redye the leather? How can I tell for sure if the stain is actually the colour showing from beneath?
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W/o knowing what the stain was caused by (water, oil, rubbing, etc) it's hard to know how to fix it. A leather shop MAY be able to re-dye the wallet, but it's hard to know if they'd be able to match the color 100%. If you were to use your nail and scratch a bit on the edge or in a non-discreet place you could find the underneath color, but not advised unless you realize that your scratch will remove coloring.
 
#323
oopsididitagain said:
I've read here on the Coach subforum about Apple and people say do not use the Apple cleaner. It will lift the dye. I don't even buy the cleaner. Just the conditioner. I suppose I would use the cleaner on some old leather shoes that were filthy but not Coach things.
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I read this page again and I found an old post from baglady39 about not using Apple cleaner with Coach. Not that I think of it, I probably read the very same post a long time ago but just forgot about it. In any case, I don't think that the Apple cleaner made things any worse but I guess I would need to remember this in the future and be very careful if I really need to use it.
 
#324
bunnymasseuse said:
W/o knowing what the stain was caused by (water, oil, rubbing, etc) it's hard to know how to fix it. A leather shop MAY be able to re-dye the wallet, but it's hard to know if they'd be able to match the color 100%. If you were to use your nail and scratch a bit on the edge or in a non-discreet place you could find the underneath color, but not advised unless you realize that your scratch will remove coloring.
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It's hard to believe that this started because of a small little spot. In hindsight, I wish that I had just told my sister to skip the conditioning process for now. :sad:

I'll have to ask my sister what she wants to do. Thanks for the advice, bunny and oops.
 
#328
tastangan said:
Thanks for the link. I'll have to ask my sister what she wants to do.
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IF there is nothing else you can do to clean this off, I would buy some Tarrago leather dye in a similar color and just re-dye it. Tarrago has many colors, and you should be able to find one just like this wallet.
Tarrago is sold on Amazon and many other places. Good luck!
 
#329
oopsididitagain said:
:amazed: Aw! Really? You're brave, bunny. I would not put the cleaner on my beloved legacy!
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I've used the cleaner on my white legacy long slim wallet, used it on a small spot on my thompson hobo (no issues) and cleaned up my recent two-tone blue legacy wallet also. I use very little of the cleaner, set the item out to dry, and then condition it VERY thoroughly.
 
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