and if you need any help / advise what to do if Tradesy doesn't help you, please PM me, I can be useful. I've been through a very tough situation with Tradesy for weeks recently, but everything ended well and I won those fight.
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and if you need any help / advise what to do if Tradesy doesn't help you, please PM me, I can be useful. I've been through a very tough situation with Tradesy for weeks recently, but everything ended well and I won those fight.
They have price drop for Louboutins till midnight today, but in fact it's only for Loubies from Tradesy closets, not for all the sellers. Not happy
Thanks for the support. It means a lot to me. My situation is a little different. I have learned to not always make decisions with my heart with people I don't know because they don't always think like me, have the same values, or appreciate the act of kindness.
I hope the last sentence is not about my offer to help, as we don't know each other
Good luck!!!
Oh, no! I thanked you because I can tell that you generally care. It really made me feel better. Thank you! I am not as open as a famous blogger or YouTuber in my life, that's my personality. I feelt violated by someone online. My last sentence deals with what I have learned to protect myself online. I learned a powerful lesson with being more cautious. I love reading this thread and talking to the members on this thread like you.I hope the last sentence is not about my offer to help, as we don't know each other
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Oh, no! I thanked you because I can tell that you generally care. It really made me feel better. Thank you! I am not as open as a famous blogger or YouTuber in my life, that's my personality. I feelt violated by someone online. My last sentence deals with what I have learned to protect myself online. I learned a powerful lesson with being more cautious. I love reading this thread and talking to the members on this thread like you.
yeah, I am trying to learn that lesson for years (not to trust people), but no success lol
run into the same trap over and over, both online and offline.
So sorry to hear this! I tried to give people a benefit of the doubt, but do enough due diligence to protect myself. I have just started selling on Tradesy and had sold a couple of items with luck and good buyers. There are good people still out there!
it's more about life in common, then about online sales. Most of my buyers were nice people, many of them keep returning to me, and I can hardly remember when I had any serious problems with any of them
but life is more then just Tradesy or eBay or any other online platforms
I'll have to agree with you on this one... I think it's only OK to use the original photos and descriptions if you purchased it from someone on Tradesy and are trying to flip it because you had a change of heart, realized it was more you could afford, or for some cases.... profit. I totally agree if the seller got their money then who cares?
I think some people on this forum take too much time trying to find out about the afterlife of their items once it's sold.
I've sold over 400 items on Tradesy, so at this point i consider myself a pretty "seasoned" seller. i've spent hours photographing, coming up with descriptions, answering peoples questions, etc. Once my item is sold... I'm happy, I get my money I move on and enjoy life!!! Lol....
I assume you're referring to my post where I gave the reasons why I don't like my work being used. And if you read my post, you'd see that it has absolutely nothing to do with the "afterlife." In fact, in my post (#5406) I even said, "And if you paid $100 for my item and can flip it for $500, that's wonderful and I'd be honestly happy for you." I know there are sellers who won't sell to resellers because they don't want a flipper but instead, they want someone to "love" their bag as much as they did. I'm not one of those sellers. I'll sell to anyone willing to buy the item.
But.........
I spend a ton of time taking pictures and writing descriptions. It often takes 2 dozen pictures to get 10-12 good ones with clear focus, accurate color, good lighting, etc. I have my own personal photographing and writing style for my listings. I upload my pictures to a photohosting site because I think they look better in a listing. Preparing a single can take a full hour, sometimes more!
So no, I don't appreciate it when someone thinks that just because they paid for the bag they also have ownership of the listing that went along with it. And in fact, as I read your post, I assumed you weren't a seller because I can't imagine a seller who takes good pictures, writes good descriptions and does her own work advocating plagiarism and picture theft (or borrowing).
Aside from the wrongdoing of using someone elses work comes the potential of SNAD claims. If your buyer receives the item after purchasing from a listing with MY pictures, how will you prove condition when your listing doesn't show the condition of the item in your possession? You might have received the bag, used it for days, weeks or months and relisted with my pictures. Buyers don't know whether you're the original seller and whether the pictures are your own. And even if the pictures are the "actual item," condition would have changed.
Another reason I don't like having my work used (and you should consider this too since you say you sell), is that you can be a victim of mistaken identity. If a scammer with fakes uses your pictures, buyers who have done business with you might recognize those pictures and think it's you. It could easily become a reputation killer.
I stand by the opinion I stated in the previous post, both for ethical reasons as well as logistical reasons:
But IMO, good sellers (including Tradesy's own closets) should take the time to do the work involved in preparing listings from start to finish. Also IMO, good sellers DON'T take the easy, lazy and unethical copy-and-paste route, especially without getting permission.
I will speak for myself. I do not have a problem with what people do after they buy my bag unless it affects me. I can see with your examples why someone might want to reuse the pictures. It is common sense why. When people reuse my pictures on Tradesy, I take it as complement that my listing was that good. However, I really want people to use their own work for the reasons Been Burned explained. I am skeptical when people reuse others pictures because I know some of the games bad sellers play. I have seen it with the buyers that have brought my bag. Some lied and said brand new with tags. I am not calling you a bad seller. I really value seeing what the bag looks like with that seller. Condition can change in the seller's home or shipment. I love art (pictures and writing style), and I value individual work more. The effort the seller puts into their listing tells me how much they value the bag and selling to their customers.
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I can see your point and agree in some aspect. Although Tradesy reached out to me to join their "tradesy for business" program and have, I personally am not exactly trying to run a business I just have a lot of stuff....
That being said... I also spend tons of time with photographs and descriptions, mostly due to the fact that I want my items to sell at a price that I'm content with. Also if I'm selling luxury brands I feel like i need to provide the adequate photos.
Realistically I don't think one listing that was "copied" would kill my reputation as a seller on TS.
I don't have so many items that I would feel people could easily tie back to my listings. I guess if you using watermarks or some sort seller name on your photograph then that would be an exception.
As far as the SNAD, I would hope that the original buyer would be honest about the condition.
Again, The only situation I see this being OKAY is if you are the original purchaser of the item. If you are a scammer trying to sell a bag using my photos, of course that is not okay. If you are selling the same item and use my description, that is also not okay.
I think with Tradesy it's kind of a give and take. In my opinion I can live with a few of my return listings reposted by Abbey R or Penney lane especially since i'm so satisfied with 1) The $8.50 Tradesy Labels, I feel like I've sold items at prices that I am satisfied with that I couldn't otherwise due to high insurance costs. 2) The return service in general, So far tradesy has sided with me for all but ONE listing out of the 412 items i've sold.
Just my perspective [emoji5]
You explained really well why some sellers do not care for other sellers reusing things that are tied to them. Tradesy is my favorite place to sell my handbags. I don't like the policy on others reusing my work. I deal with it because I really don't like how returns are done on EBay. It is not fair and balanced to me. I just want to say all of my sales have been great on Tradesy.
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You're missing the point and I think most sellers who have good listings would get what I'm saying. I'll try to explain my point of view one more time and if you don't get it, so be it.
It's irrelevant that Tradesy "reached out to you to join their "tradesy for business" program." I guess you're implying that they believe you're a great seller because not everyone is reached out to. And if it's the case, I'd think you'd understand why it's so much more important that you prove your honesty and ethics by doing your own work.
It doesn't matter whether it's just one listing with stolen pictures or all your listings that have stolen pictures. Rationalizing that "just one listing" won't "kill your reputation," is BS. Sure you might not get caught but that doesn't make it any less wrong.
Even if you are the original purchaser of the item (from another Tradesy seller), that doesn't mean that reusing the pictures is an accurate depiction of the item and its condition at the time you're reselling it. Whether you only used it a day, a week or not at all, the condition may not be exactly as the pictures show. Even using for an hour, you might have dripped coffee, scraped a corner, or made another ding that may not have been there before.
If as you say you use your own pictures, why wouldn't you do it for every listing? Prove your sense of ethics!
Hi Beenburned, I really respect your point of view. It has definitely changed my perspective and I will no longer relist an item using someones pictures as now I am aware that there are sellers who would be offended. The last thing I'd want on a stressful day at work is to be served because I used someones picture of an item I bought from them. I think it's best not to assume anymore how the seller might feel. Honestly, it never crossed my mind that it was wrong. But now I know and that information has saved me from future could be's.
BUT, I have items that I have bought from reputable sellers that have gotten ruined in the shipping process. There really is no guarantee when you are buying online. Things get ruined more often in the shipping process and also in the storing process of someone who has 300+ items for sale. So pictures, from my perspective, have not been accurate. It does happen and it's happened to me a few times. Nothing too bad, but there were creases from storage, scratches, extra marks... Etc. i don't know if it was from shipping or them storing it. I think it's all important how a seller packages too, but even plastic and newspaper wrapping can ruin an item!
I think everyone has vocalized their opinion regarding this subject and now we all are more aware of how people might feel. Moral of the story: use your own photos. It's just not worth anybody's time or effort to do otherwise.