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#751
whateve said:
I have seen samples like that as well. My sample is the worst - it doesn't have the 99999 - it has the wrong style number! I was sure it was fake because of that. The seller was a photographer who was given the bag for a photo shoot. It came with some documentation from the factory that supported his story and the ladies at tpf determined that was enough proof of its authenticity.

I think you would have trouble selling these though. We have seen fakes that don't have a number or have the 99999 so a lot of buyers would be leery of them. Some of them are scary good.

The seller you bought your bag from should have disclosed that it was a sample.
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yes he should have and I think I am returning it unless he refunds some money back to me,
 
#752
coachdon said:
Thanks whateve, that was very helpful.

So do all sample bags have 99999 as the last 5 digits?

I know of another bag that the bag looks, feels and acts just like a coach. All the stitching is beautiful, the bag leather matches its "real coach sister" and the lining is exactly the same as on the real coach, but this questionable coach has no number on the creed. What are your thoughts on that one?
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whateve said:
I have seen samples like that as well. My sample is the worst - it doesn't have the 99999 - it has the wrong style number! I was sure it was fake because of that. The seller was a photographer who was given the bag for a photo shoot. It came with some documentation from the factory that supported his story and the ladies at tpf determined that was enough proof of its authenticity.

I think you would have trouble selling these though. We have seen fakes that don't have a number or have the 99999 so a lot of buyers would be leery of them. Some of them are scary good.

The seller you bought your bag from should have disclosed that it was a sample.
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We just saw some of those fakes yesterday on the AT Coach thread. It was discussed here. It started but there are followup posts with pictures.
http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-763164-345.html#post23710336
 
#753
Since this thread is meant as a reference thread only, I want to emphasize that, although Coach does make Sample bags and has been known to use different numbers in them, there's really NO way they can be positively authenticated. We've seen at least 2 sellers so far who have claimed their bags without serial numbers were samples but many of those seem to be very questionable and so do the sellers themselves. Coach only makes a small number of samples and ONLY sells them at special sales, usually in New York. A flood of "samples" onto the market with missing or wrong serial numbers is a major red flag.

Please DON'T buy full-size Coach bags without serial numbers or a bag the seller claims is a sample unless you're willing to risk your money by buying a fake. And they're dangerous to resell because a buyer can easily claim that the bag is fake because the serial number doesn't match the style.

Also a reminder - please try to keep this as a reference thread - use the "Authenticate This Coach" thread to ask specific questions about individual bags and other Coach items, sellers and websites. Read the first post in the thread for the information and format we need to authenticate, and then go to the latest reply and use the blue Post A Reply button to ask your question:

http://forum.purseblog.com/coach-shopping/authenticate-this-coach-763164.html
 
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#755
Another serial number that has been showing up on fakes is:
A05U-1482

I've reported 3 of them today -- all different styles and materials. (There are previous posts asking about bags with the same number.

This is what 1482 should look like:
 

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#757
FAKE SERIAL NUMBERS - ADDITION

22096-08 seems to be the newest popular fake number, and I'm sure there are, or will be, similar fake numbers that use the same format. Coach bags will never ever have serial numbers where the style number OR the part of the number after the dash has only 2 digits. That last group of numbers in bags or other items made in 1994 or later is always the style number, and Coach style numbers ALWAYS have at least three digits. They can be all numbers or a combination of numbers and letters, but there will always be at least 3 of them.

Styles from before 1994 where the last set of number DOESN'T include the style number and are all numbers and no letters will still fit that Rule - pre-1994 serials will never have just 2 digits after the dash.
 
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#762
I have a 2 general questons about Coach fakes.

1. If the creed reads Made in USA (not United States) is it fake?

2. If the numbers under the creed are all numbers, no dash, is it fake? I can see how the plant could accidently roll the dash to a 9, making it 8 digits...(so could a faker)
 
#764
mermaidcms said:
I have a 2 general questons about Coach fakes.

1. If the creed reads Made in USA (not United States) is it fake?

2. If the numbers under the creed are all numbers, no dash, is it fake? I can see how the plant could accidently roll the dash to a 9, making it 8 digits...(so could a faker)
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1. "Made in U.S.A." is fine with an all number creed.
2. 8 digits with no dash sometimes happened accidentally so it could be authentic.
 
#765
mermaidcms said:
Are bags with a number like: XXH-1234 genuine? I am thinking that the H is not a genuine plant.
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I believe that all letters of the alphabet were used for plant codes before they started using numbers. H was a valid US plant at one time. Some letters were reused for more than one plant at different times.
 
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