I posted this earlier and was directed to this thread. I don't know if this is something everyone already knows but on eBay auctions for Marc Jacobs Multipocket bags I have asked numerous times about the handle ring at the base of the strap and determined fraud. I have owned a few MP's and the ring at the base of the strap stays stationary, it doesn't move at all. The strap moves back and forth on the ring but the ring doesn't turn. I justed asked the seller of auction Item number: 220109105974and her answer first was that it turns but doesn't spin. I wrote back to her telling her that I didn't understand her answer as I think turn and spin mean the same thing and she said it moves around but not easily. Al I wrong or id this another way to spot fraud?