horsey peeps -- i need your help!!!

dressage queen

dressage queen

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Aug 22, 2006
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#1
i have a TB stallion who is being retrained as a dressage horse. he's not a breeding stallion, but i haven't had him gelded because he's 10 years old and the vet recommends that at his age it should be done as a closed procedure. which would be pricey. (for any non-horsey folks reading, 'geld' means 'castrate' and it's usually done when they're young, right at the farm -- sedate them in a nice clean patch of grass and when the fall down hoist up a leg with a rope and snip-snip.)

since soul died i have an empty stall, and i decided to bring home one of the rescue horses i've been supporting since he came out of a meat lot. he's a cute little 2-yr old gelding named andros.

so here's the problem: trentino thinks andros is a filly!!! :wtf: he starts prancing and calling and waving his wiener around every time he gets close to him. trentino is a very manageable stallion, but it's still a HUGE pain in the patootie -- so i'd REALLY like trentino to figure out that andros is a BOY!

any thoughts???
 
#3
thanks, liza! i feel like a hypocrite because i don't advocate keeping horses intact unless they are outstanding specimens to be used for breeding. but trentino was himself a rescue (won $150k at the track and then dumped at a meat auction - grrrrrrr), and i really don't want to spend several thousand dollars to geld him. so as long as he remains a gentleman he gets to keep his cojones. but this is a real PITA from a management perspective -- i can't put andros in the stall next to him or in a paddock too close to him.

i do have one mare on the farm, and she happens to be in season right now. but andros hasn't been close enough to her to pick up any of her scent -- he's still in his 10-day semi-quarrantine in case he picked up anything from his travelling companions on the way here.
 
#4
OMG!! I had no idea you had added to your horse family!! All this talking purses, LOL. I wish I could help you, I will definitely ask my friend about it, but I have a feeling she will say let mr hot stuff figure it out the hard way, and I dont think that is the safest way to go.

keep us posted....
 
#5
CobaltBlu said:
OMG!! I had no idea you had added to your horse family!!
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well, he's just a little gimpy rescue boy who may never be sound enough for riding. but i have a farm and so i feel like i need to do my part to help the unridables. plus, he's a real cutie, remy needed a friend after losing seoul, and the last thing i need right now is another horse to have to keep in training! so it's win-win for all of us.
 
#9
How recently did you introduce the new gelding? Is it possible Trentino is displaying stallion behavior to show the new guy that he is the boss? I would hope he would stop after a short time and he got used to the newcomer.

I think it's wonderful that you saved that gelding from slaughter.
 
#10
Sorry this took so long DQ!
1. Stallion/Studdy behavior-medical management:
-Some people are using a drug called Regumate, which is simply progesterone, but it's somewhat controversial as to whether it works. You could try discussing it with your veterinarian.
-Kelly (DH) said Studdy behavior is usually additive-they seem to get worse, not better-dogs learn to tolerate each other, but the stallins seem to get worse.

2. The closed procedure is actually a scrotal incision-which is sutured shut-Kelly said it's great if done well-but every one he's ever seen as blown up like a basketball/hematoma. His preferred method for older studs is to ligate the cords(instead of simply clamp) and leave open for any drainage. I'm sorry to say we only get a few hundred$ for this (YIKES-WE SHOULD MOVE) !

Please let me know if you want his email-he'll be glad to answer any questions! This will, of course, make your vet irate! :yes:
 
#11
lizavet8 said:
Sorry this took so long DQ!
1. Stallion/Studdy behavior-medical management:
-Some people are using a drug called Regumate, which is simply progesterone, but it's somewhat controversial as to whether it works. You could try discussing it with your veterinarian.
-Kelly (DH) said Studdy behavior is usually additive-they seem to get worse, not better-dogs learn to tolerate each other, but the stallins seem to get worse.

2. The closed procedure is actually a scrotal incision-which is sutured shut-Kelly said it's great if done well-but every one he's ever seen as blown up like a basketball/hematoma. His preferred method for older studs is to ligate the cords(instead of simply clamp) and leave open for any drainage. I'm sorry to say we only get a few hundred$ for this (YIKES-WE SHOULD MOVE) !

Please let me know if you want his email-he'll be glad to answer any questions! This will, of course, make your vet irate! :yes:
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thanks, liza! regumate is sucha PITA with all the handling precautions that i don't think i'll go down that road.

what's so strange about this is that trentino is such an easy and well-socialized stallion -- my stalls have bars between them and he has a gelding right next to him with no issues. his paddock adjoins remy's/seoul's, and there's never been any problem with the proximity. twice the help (since discharged!) left the gate unlatched and i found him mixed in with geldings, and again no problems.

but this isn't a stud being boss -- he's doing that hubba, hubba let's make a baby thing. it's really odd. oh well, guess i'll just have to watch it develop -- maybe with time he'll figure out that andros doesn't smell like a mare!

please say thanks to kelly for the info! my vet is a sweetheart and won't mind at all if i ask him about ligating rather than clamping, but he's also the surgeon for all the equine practices in the area so i expect some reassurances that he can do the closed procedure well. ;)

and yes, you should move here -- unless you need horseshoes. in which case be prepared to pay $590 for four horses, fronts only, two regular, one bars and one bars with rimpads. :wtf:
 
#12
Holy CRAP-Thereputic shoeing by a vet referral farrier for my own old crippled Tb- $120.00. Four feet.

I just did a cystotomy (bladder surgery) with marshmallow sized stone removal, digital radiographs, bloodwork, anesthesia, etc.-The bill came to $600. I don't think I can move back home though-too much traffic! (originally Maryland!)
 
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