another genuine pebble
Seller: vandaln4077
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Rouge-Western-1941-Bag/153207883487?hash=item23abe6c6df
Seller: vandaln4077
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Rouge-Western-1941-Bag/153207883487?hash=item23abe6c6df
Oh wow! I've never seen this up close and it almost had me! They even used a liner that looks very similar to the real ones!another genuine pebble
Seller: vandaln4077
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Rouge-Western-1941-Bag/153207883487?hash=item23abe6c6df
another genuine pebble
Seller: vandaln4077
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Coach-Rouge-Western-1941-Bag/153207883487?hash=item23abe6c6df
The one I posted the creed is off. It should say genuine glovetanned leather, this just says genuine pebble. The bottom should be pebble not smooth leather, the zipper should be gold.I don't usually do newer styles, so can you tell me what the problem with that stamp is so I can explain it in my report? Do you mean the Pebble leather stamp on the bottom? Or is the problem with the creed or with the bogus prefix "ED"? I'm confuzzled.
An Ebay search using the 57230 style number on the creed brings up a similar bag with 57230 on the white tag inside the pocket but the creed has one of those totally bogus serial numbers that's hard to read but looks like RG-23375 or 23315, it's hard to tell. Is this one genuine and is this what the creed in the one being reported should say?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/COACH-ROGU...807370?hash=item1cba5e020a:g:rW4AAOSwNEdbp5B9
AUTHENTICATORS OR ROGUE EXPERTS - is there any fairly easy way for a dumb-arse like me to figure these out?
This is why I don't do newer bags. Whoever came up with those idiotic phony serial numbers should be boiled in oil.
PROBABLE FAKE FROM vandaln4077 -
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Possibly genuine 57230 with RG-23375(?) serial from la*mya*boutique* -
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and a thumbnail of the last, slightly enlarged:
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How about if I just leave the newer styles to the experts and stick to my classic and vintage stuff?
The one I posted the creed is off. It should say genuine glovetanned leather, this just says genuine pebble. The bottom should be pebble not smooth leather, the zipper should be gold.
The one you posted looks off too. The bottom stamp should say genuine pebble leather and be pebble, not smooth leather. The stripes down the front should be black/tan/black these look brown/tan/brown (unless it came in that colorway too) The trim just below the kisslock should extend and have a leather half circle embossed 1941.
I've included a link to one from Nordstrom's. @Galaxygrrl has one, maybe she can verify what creed should say?
https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/coach-1941-rogue-western-embroidery-leather-satchel/4454712
I have my suspicions about the second one. I found one bag that I think is genuine but the seller doesn't show the Creed. I'm waiting on additional photos from the seller.Thanks! If the second one turns out to be fake too, I hope someone posts here so I can change the name in my photo files.
But in the meantime it looks like letting the experts in that style do the reporting is still the safest bet, at least for me.
You know I went to eBay and found the same one I think you're referring to. The bottom is actually pebble leather like it should be. The 2 above both have a smoothbottom.I have my suspicions about the second one. I found one bag that I think is genuine but the seller doesn't show the Creed. I'm waiting on additional photos from the seller.
Ugh, someone bought itOh wow! I've never seen this up close and it almost had me! They even used a liner that looks very similar to the real ones!
Bummer. We can only try. eBay doesn't listen sometimes. I have seen other fake Rogues sold even after I reported them.Ugh, someone bought it
Here is the photo of the Creed patch of the Authentic (IMO) one. Additional photos in the listing.Thanks! If the second one turns out to be fake too, I hope someone posts here so I can change the name in my photo files.
But in the meantime it looks like letting the experts in that style do the reporting is still the safest bet, at least for me.
Here is the photo of the Creed patch of the Authentic (IMO) one. Additional photos in the listing.
https://bnc.lt/focc/N5tsEQw9NQView attachment 4215033
Thanks!
That shocks me. Just based ONLY on the quality of the creed and serial stamping, the second possibly fake one in my photos in post 5508 looks more professional than this one does.
I give up.
@Hyacinth also note the lack of contrast stitching of the zipper. Counterfeiters are getting very good at making excellent replicas.
The kisslock hardware comparison pics. The fake is another listing on PM by seller Sandra D aka qtsandra12
https://bnc.lt/focc/lMqy9nMcOQ
The authentic one is from a different style bag but I'm showing how the direction of the arms are positioned in the authentic Coach Rogue bags. View attachment 4215068View attachment 4215069