William and Catherine, Prince and Princess of Wales
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Honestly, I just want to tell Sparry to nut it up. He’s near 40. Stop whinging and making yourself look bad for money bc you have no skills.
Jeebus. No one cares about your ugly necklace or that cheap dog bowl. They are probably better off broken, anyway.
Jeebus. No one cares about your ugly necklace or that cheap dog bowl. They are probably better off broken, anyway.
It's just another inconsistency that someone should ask Harry to explain. Why does he want his father and brother back exactly, since he clearly does not like either of them, and how does he think his book will help in that endeavor? I think "the shove" was not really that big of a deal to Harry. But, it was a way to embarrass his brother for losing his temper (if it indeed happened) and he wouldn't pass up the opportunity since he clearly has issues about being #5 or #6 or wherever he is in the hierarchy currently.
been caught in numerous lieCurious to see if William will respond to these allegations.
Harry says William attacked him after calling Meghan 'difficult'
In an extraordinary excerpt from his upcoming autobiography Spare, Harry recalls what he describes as a physical attack by his sibling, now the Prince of Wales.www.dailymail.co.uk
IMO if there were any shred of truth to this, why wasn't it mentioned in the Oprah interview? Or their Netflix shows? Or Meghan's podcasts? What I see is a drip drip drip for a buck buck buck. All Harry and Meghan have for income is to slam the BRF any way they can. They've already been caught in DOCUMENTED numerous lies. Their credibility is at about zero. Take into account Meghan's own personal history. She has burned every bridge she's ever been associated with. Her father is dying. She flew to Uvalde, Texas for a photo op but can't be bothered to see her own father.
In Chicago news today, Frank DeLuca died at age 84 in prison. I'm trying to make an analogy here. Here's a partial cut/paste in an attempt to portray how a woman manipulated her lover into killing her own family.
"DeLuca and Columbo were convicted of the shooting deaths of Columbo's parents, Frank and Mary, and the death of her 13-year-old brother Michael, who was stabbed 87 times with scissors.
Patricia Columbo instigated, planned and participated in the crime, according to Rose, who said the then-19-year-old attempted to recruit two hit men eight months before the murders occurred. Ultimately, Columbo manipulated DeLuca, her married 37-year-old lover, into killing her family by falsely claiming her father planned to have her and DeLuca killed, Rose said."
I think we can all agree that Harry isn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier. I'm not saying Harry could be talked into killing a 13 year old by stabbing him 87 times with scissors. What I am saying is that if one takes away all the allegations made by H&M against the BRF, what do they have left? Nothing. Zilch. Nada. They are making a living by slandering the family that gave them a 50 million dollar wedding, a multi million dollar house, servants, private jet travel, all the perks of royalty, designer wardrobes, and whatever else. Was Meghan attacked in the media? Sure. Media coverage was IMO about 99.99% favorable. So there were a few nasty things. Oh effing boo hoo. Their claims that the BRF were mean and racist toward her? Considering their credibility track record, they have a high bar to clear before being given the benefit of doubt.
If the BRF were soooooooooo horrible horrible horrible, then why didn't Harry break off before meeting Meghan? Why would he bring her into a family that was so "vicious" that you'd want to leave all the perks of royal life? Meghan appears, moves in with Harry, gathers nosegay bouquets from the kiddies, (says "I can't believe we're not getting paid for this" as if being given everything they have isn't enough, but I digress) goes back and forth to Paris for wedding dress fittings, gets Harry to the altar with the Clooney's, Beckham's, Oprah, etc en tow.
When they broke off they said they "wanted privacy". Once they got to Montecito all they've done is to elbow their way into every hired camera. Cameras that "bring flashbacks" to Diana's death for Harry. He loves the cameras now!
Allegations? Harry's word against William's. Let's consider motives. Who's making the money off the book? Not William. Between Oprah, Netflix and Spotify these particular allegations haven't come up. Oh wait! NOW THERE'S A BOOK TO SELL!
What necklace? What dog bowl? The only thing real is the money he has to make off the book. So he badmouths his family. Yet, yet, yet, yet "he wants his father and brother back". Good luck with that.
Harry is promoting a book and certain things are designed for sensationalism.
Secondly, if the altercation is true, it's understandable how Harry may love William but also know how deeply mentally disturbed he is and want him to get professional help. For a man of pedigree bred to be King of England, assaulting your brother behind closed doors is very deranged. Harry would also know if that behavior has translated to other areas of William's life outside of the KP leaks and trash articles about his sister-in-law. Maybe there are additional motivations for leaking this incident - is he also protecting other, more vulnerable members of his family who may not have a voice? What about the affair rumors? Nobody knows. At this point, all I care about is whether this is true or not. If Harry is lying, then he deserves to be sued out the ass because abuse is never something to allege and ruin someone's reputation behind.
Secondly, if the altercation is true, it's understandable how Harry may love William but also know how deeply mentally disturbed he is and want him to get professional help. For a man of pedigree bred to be King of England, assaulting your brother behind closed doors is very deranged. Harry would also know if that behavior has translated to other areas of William's life outside of the KP leaks and trash articles about his sister-in-law. Maybe there are additional motivations for leaking this incident - is he also protecting other, more vulnerable members of his family who may not have a voice? What about the affair rumors? Nobody knows. At this point, all I care about is whether this is true or not. If Harry is lying, then he deserves to be sued out the ass because abuse is never something to allege and ruin someone's reputation behind.
All the Harry defenders conveniently ignore the fact that the background to William’s anger in all this is Meghan bullying palace staff, as explained in Lacie’s book (which H&M never sued him for, so we know what that means). I’m sure Harry was calm, collected and respectful as he’s always been (racial slurs and assaulting photographers aside) when defending his wife against horrendous allegations with plenty of proof, while William (the abusive mentally deranged bully) is the only one whose temper flared. Because there were never any accusations of Harry and Meghan acting in a deranged way, lying or manipulating people to fit their narrative. NEVER. So the truth must be that William is deranged and poor lamb Harry is innocent.
Also gotta say I envy people who never had an altercation where their sibling pushed them or they pushed their sibling in the heat of an argument. They might want to teach enlightenment in the closest ashram to their home.
Also gotta say I envy people who never had an altercation where their sibling pushed them or they pushed their sibling in the heat of an argument. They might want to teach enlightenment in the closest ashram to their home.
Do adults just go around shoving people to the ground and fighting whenever there is conflict? Like how can any defend that. We just saw that poor football player who went into cardiac arrest supposedly caused from impact to his chest. Anything could happen when you put your hands on someone. I've had my share of verbal knockdowns with my siblings and silent treatment but never physical altercations as adults with children of our own.
Let’s play a scenario:
- Harry and William heatedly arguing about dear Meg’s bullying of staff in a tight space (that kitchen doesn’t look huge from the photos)
- Harry is pissed (say like he was with that photographer he assaulted) and gets aggressive with Will, stepping into his personal space and pointing a finger at him
- Will shoves him away to get some space
- Harry slips on the dog bowl and falls
Harry: “Will assaulted me”.
Reality: Harry is just as much to blame and it was an accident anyway.
When you flat out lie for 3 years, the chances you all of a sudden tell the absolute truth when the other side never complains never explains are… minuscule.
But if you believe Harry tells the whole truth and nothing but the truth after being caught in endless lies I have a Nigerian prince for you.
I think I'm going to give more credence to the guy who was silent about his family outside of one interview for 6 years prior to his book release vs. the guy who consistently leaked BS to the press about his sister-in-law most of that time.
I'm also going to give more credence to the guy who knows how to master his emotions and have physical restraint than one who doesn't.
Also going to give more credence to the guy who speaks and owns his truth instead of passive aggressively hiding behind the press to 'communicate' what he feels.
I'm also going to give more credence to the guy who knows how to master his emotions and have physical restraint than one who doesn't.
Also going to give more credence to the guy who speaks and owns his truth instead of passive aggressively hiding behind the press to 'communicate' what he feels.
Well… We are only hearing one side of the story. There are probably three sides: Harry’s side, Will’s side, and the truth.
No one was there to see it so we don’t know if Harry instigated some aspect either verbally or physically.
We don’t know if getting physical is the norm for these two in how they hash things out.
Given Harry’s track record for not telling/twisting the truth (he seems to take the revisionist history approach), I have a very hard time believing that he stood there like a limp dick and allowed himself to be shouted at and pushed around.
No one was there to see it so we don’t know if Harry instigated some aspect either verbally or physically.
We don’t know if getting physical is the norm for these two in how they hash things out.
Given Harry’s track record for not telling/twisting the truth (he seems to take the revisionist history approach), I have a very hard time believing that he stood there like a limp dick and allowed himself to be shouted at and pushed around.
Brothers fighting? Never ever heard of it… Dumb sh!t like Harry… would easily tick off any brothers…. The bad part is Harry selling it for millions… what a complete piece of work he is…. making William out to be the bully-please … no one with a brain is going to believe it…
The other thing that’s weird to me… Harry called his therapist after the fight. But that same year TW was allegedly suicidal and he couldn’t figure out how to get her some help? Someone please help me understand this.
Whether or not Will pushed Harry, I feel sorry for Will being put in this position. Having private family matters being published like this is so wrong. If there’s more in the book about Will and Catherine then Harry better not go to the coronation. How could he even show his face, be around Will, etc.
Several times you've mentioned the King of England. There is no King of England. The actual title is King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (and its other realms and territories)
Thank you.