What would you do? (Battle of the authenticators)

LL777

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Is it possible to buy a bag from the Celine boutique that might be a counterfeit?
 

winstongeorge

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Is it possible to buy a bag from the Celine boutique that might be a counterfeit?
I guess if someone purchased a real one and then returned the real one with a super fake they may not know. Unfortunately in my case Sophia confirmed what I was thinking. I also connected with someone else today via the purse forum the received the same bag I did a month ago, from the same person masking themself as someone else. It was most definitely a scan.
 

LL777

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I guess if someone purchased a real one and then returned the real one with a super fake they may not know. Unfortunately in my case Sophia confirmed what I was thinking. I also connected with someone else today via the purse forum the received the same bag I did a month ago, from the same person masking themself as someone else. It was most definitely a scan.
I’m sorry for your bad experience!!! I hope you are able to file a claim and win.
 

winstongeorge

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I’m sorry for your bad experience!!! I hope you are able to file a claim and win.
Yes claim already filed and the seller didn’t even dispute it. It’s picked up and going back tomorrow. It’s just sad because they are just going to do it to someone else.
 

Luxeaq

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Hello dear. I am back to authenticating on here for a bit. Would you like to send me pictures of the bag in question? Would love to help you!
Hi Sophia,

Sorry, I was not able to PM you, I was wondering if you could help me with authenticating this bag as well?

Thank you in advance!
 

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I guess if someone purchased a real one and then returned the real one with a super fake they may not know. Unfortunately in my case Sophia confirmed what I was thinking. I also connected with someone else today via the purse forum the received the same bag I did a month ago, from the same person masking themself as someone else. It was most definitely a scan.
Happy to help!
 

jmc3007

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I bought a Celine off of eBay. Seller has been on the platform for 10 years, 100% feedback. Not a super seller and doesn’t have a high number of transactions so appears to just be a way to sell items one isn’t using anymore.

she is adamant that the bag is authentic as she bought it herself from a Celine boutique.
Had it authenticated...****************** and A4U both said counterfeit. Lollipuff said authentic.

I love the bag and would love to keep it. I just don’t know who to believe. Any experience with the strengths of these authenticators for Celine? Who would you believe?
you can and should email A4U to ask why their expert think it's not real. Lesley is always v accessible with questions. I've had extensive dialogue with her team in the past when I experienced complications.
 

fashion16

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you can and should email A4U to ask why their expert think it's not real. Lesley is always v accessible with questions. I've had extensive dialogue with her team in the past when I experienced complications.
Thanks for the advice. I did reach out and she said that on one side of the clip for the shoulder strap, the Celine stamp is deeply engraved and on the other side, it is far more faint and that was the driver in determining it was fake. I then went back to lollipuff and she stands behind her assessment that it is real and the difference in stamp is a production defect not totally out of the realm of possibility even for an authentic bag.
Kinda right back where I started
 
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hereforvintage

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Hello dear. I am back to authenticating on here for a bit. Would you like to send me pictures of the bag in question? Would love to help you!
Hi Ms Sophia, I could not PM you for some reason. Are you able to help authenticate a vintage celine horse carriage 24cm box bag? no serial number though. Thank you in advance for your time to read this message.
 

jmc3007

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Thanks for the advice. I did reach out and she said that on one side of the clip for the shoulder strap, the Celine stamp is deeply engraved and on the other side, it is far more faint and that was the driver in determining it was fake. I then went back to lollipuff and she stands behind her assessment that it is real and the difference in stamp is a production defect not totally out of the realm of possibility even for an authentic bag.
Kinda right back where I started
Yes I do see what they meant by the strap stamp, it’s possible that it’s a defect on quality from Celine. I think all the other markers are in compliance. You should ask for reconsideration. It’s never just one thing but a compilation of various characteristics together that should determine authenticity. The grade of stamps may seem different but review if the each letter is consistent.

lastly this part can only be done by yourself, does the zipper and other metal components feel heavy? The smell of the leather? I’ve handle faked Celine’s before, the zippers and other hardware are plastic and sound hollow.
 
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fashion16

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Yes I do see what they meant by the strap stamp, it’s possible that it’s a defect on quality from Celine. I think all the other markers are in compliance. You should ask for reconsideration. It’s never just one thing but a compilation of various characteristics together that should determine authenticity. The grade of stamps may seem different but review if the each letter is consistent.

lastly this part can only be done by yourself, does the zipper and other metal components feel heavy? The smell of the leather? I’ve handle faked Celine’s before, the zippers and other hardware are plastic and sound hollow.
yes, the hardware is very substantial, doesn’t feel hollow at all. The bag feels sturdy, the leather is thick and the bag smells heavenly...like that rich leather small that hits you as soon as you take a bag out of a box or dust bag.

nothing seems off except the stamp on the clasps of the shoulder strap
 

jmc3007

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I do think it’s genuine, especially when comparing/contrasting each letter of the faint stamp with the other side. The font is consistent in each, it’s unfortunate of the poor quality, that said Celine QA can be maddening from time to time even under Phoebe Philo’s reign.

and never underestimate the smell test, their leather smells amazing even 5-7 years out.
 
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