Bears repeating!
Also, let’s stick closely to topic, it really helps preventing tangents and drama.
Also, let’s stick closely to topic, it really helps preventing tangents and drama.
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What do y'all think about the Balenciaga SS23 & Adidas collab "teddy" controversy?
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Advertising blatantly -- subject matter CHILDREN. I will quit trying to explain myself to someone who is committed to misunderstanding me.
Start speaking up then! Start a thread exposing Chanel. Why not? We are here, gathering, as citizens to protect the children and we don't feel we need to be silenced because other brands are doing this and that. If you don't agree with what Chanel has done, use your voice to speak up against Chanel, instead of rationalizing it. We will stop voicing our disagreement with what Balenciaga did.
Right???? The lack of education when it comes to sexual matters involving children is absolutely mind-boggling. I can't fathom the level of blindness that permeates society. I fear for our children. People simple can't see. How is that even possible? Wow!
Maybe Balenciaga has a better read on society than we thought.
That's what I was hoping they'd do -- the fact they haven't just indicates that they're completely ok with what they did and content to keep having the current creative team push the envelope in a questionable direction. So their apologies and future plans... not meaningful or indicative of any major change.
They just keep shifting blame. If they came out and said, this was purposeful, we signed off on it, it was a horrible mistake and clearly it’s indicative of our failed culture here at Balenciaga. Therefore, we are changing our culture, cleaning house, and want to rebuild. Boom. People would give them that.
I understand what Coco Chanel did during... WW2? in the 1940s. Yes, it was racist.
The Hermes thing not a huge deal IMO.
D&G is or at least has been racist and homophobic since 2012.( They also like Kim K.)
Nike, absolutely responsible for what they did.
No passes for any of them.
Now it is 2022 and most adults are painfully aware of the overwhelming amount of sexual abuse against children. It is discussed with young students at school. It is discussed at home. People my age are coming forward with their stories from 40 years ago- those things just weren't spoken about back then.
The prevalence of abuse is overwhelming. It is very much on people's minds.
So this year, when we are more aware than ever about what can, might, or has happened to children, Bal decides this campaign is a great idea? That is the topic of this thread. BALENCIAGA, and how they used children in an attempt to normalize things that SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN.
Exactly this!! The fact that Balenciaga went from a weak apology, shifting blame/lawsuit and now to a more sincere apology with a lot of empty promises to “learn”/donations etc. it does not sit right with me. It speaks volumes about the brand that they’re not parting ways with Demna & co. after this.
At this point, those involved with this campaign need their hard drives checked out by authorities.
So how do you explain it? I'm really interested because if you can convince me that they were all some innocent coincidence, I would have a much better day. Tell me why when people see these ads they don't even notice the items being sold.
Qanon has been linking this to some kind of satanical cult as usual. No surprises there.
Nobody here has done that and for you to make that comparison, whatever that's your choice.
I would never condone any of the actions mentioned, ever! That was never my point. I am saying that pretty much every brand with any longevity has something in their background like this. I think Balenciaga will clean house, Demna’s days are numbered. I do take exception when people are saying anyone wearing Balenciaga agrees with the ads, that is NOT true.
How did at least one of the campaigns (the one featuring children) get this passed at the brainstorming stage?
Why does someone in the/a Bal team know so much about all this sh*t?
Why isn't Demna CREATIVE DIRECTOR apologising to everyone who works at Balenciaga for putting all their jobs in jeopardy?
Why muddy the name of the BDSM community (who have strict codes based on consent)?
Why are children in a campaign to sell to adults at all?
I went to Kering HQ in London today and posted a handwritten letter inside a Christmas card. Something along the lines of how disappointed I am with the management of this crisis, before and after they got 'found out'.
Saturday in London and every store had a queue outside today, I observed not a single customer in Bal.
I am going to continue to wear the BAL I have, although I haven't purchased anything for a long time. I don't see what customers who buy a product on its own merits maybe years and years ago should be made to feel like a leper.
Why does someone in the/a Bal team know so much about all this sh*t?
Why isn't Demna CREATIVE DIRECTOR apologising to everyone who works at Balenciaga for putting all their jobs in jeopardy?
Why muddy the name of the BDSM community (who have strict codes based on consent)?
Why are children in a campaign to sell to adults at all?
I went to Kering HQ in London today and posted a handwritten letter inside a Christmas card. Something along the lines of how disappointed I am with the management of this crisis, before and after they got 'found out'.
Saturday in London and every store had a queue outside today, I observed not a single customer in Bal.
I am going to continue to wear the BAL I have, although I haven't purchased anything for a long time. I don't see what customers who buy a product on its own merits maybe years and years ago should be made to feel like a leper.
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I also do not think that anyone who owns something from Bal should be judged. I think it is horrible that Bal SAs are being threatened. It is unacceptable and not productive for the message they are trying to send. It screws things up for the rest of us, I don't want to appear crazy and vindictive. I don't want to be compared to Q for stating my opinion. It's such a predictable cop out.
I realize other houses have had their scandals but the topic here is Bal.
Clean house, get rid of Demna is great, I hope they do. But there were many other people who signed off on this as well.
Agree 100%.
Also, the reason someone knows about this sh*t? They looked for it.
This is exactly “whataboutism” yet again. Every time someone or some brand is under fire it’s always, “well what about xyz, they did blah blah blah, don’t come for me unless you come for them”. Maybe it’s time we deal with it issue by issue.
and that’s the tactic people doing bad things always do, damage control. How can we shift the spotlight? How can we create reasonable doubt? How can we spin? Many may not be aware that PR firms have a lot of connections with all media including newspapers, magazines, influencers, celebrities etc. that is how they shift public perception. We should all keep in mind the information we take in, who is the source, what is their motive, how do they stand to benefit from saying xyz. Also just to add, just bc some nobody said something online doesn’t make it not true. Vice versa just bc some “credible expert” said it does not make it true either. People can make mistakes.
How many times have we heard people take the word of an older relative vs a child? Similar scenario bc there is an assumption of credibility and trust in the adult va the child.
I don't want to "cancel" any brand, I would just respect them a lot more if they said they made a horrible error in judgement. I don't like Demna but maybe he could put his energy into designing some innovative, useful items. Right now his energy is being used to troll customers and see how far he can go.