What do y'all think about the Balenciaga SS23 & Adidas collab "teddy" controversy?

What's your take in the Balenciaga teddy bear controversay?

  • It's harmless

    Votes: 23 3.2%
  • It's disgusting

    Votes: 554 76.7%
  • It's just to garner attention - Balenciaga being Balenciaga

    Votes: 94 13.0%
  • I don't know what to think

    Votes: 46 6.4%
  • What controversay? (links in post)

    Votes: 5 0.7%

  • Total voters
    722

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We'd like to leave this thread open, but political conspiracy theories, among other comments need to stop. Discuss the topic only please, let's keep the discussion open and all responses to others need to remain respectful.


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If that’s the case then no one should wear Chanel.
That’s a false, misleading equivalency given the founder is dead, unable to profit from the brand, the brand is owned by two people whom their grandfather(?) she tried to hijack the brand from, the designs are completely different from her vision, they have earnestly addressed how they do not support her political values.

And in recent times did Chanel do anything remotely as disgusting as pedophilia? Nope.

Balenciaga allegedly had Nazi ties too (being a couturier for the wives of Nazi’s) , but that isn’t something I’m holding against the brand either.

Please don’t misdirect the situation.
 
Wearing their designs will allow them to maintain their popularity. It doesn’t matter what era of the brand it is from.
So: keeping older Bal bags is corruptly keeping the brand popular, but you selling off your Gucci and Bal to TRR and thereby keeping them circulating in the marketplace (as you stated you will) is a higher, ethical stance against pedophilia? This logic is...badly broken.
 
That’s a false, misleading equivalency given the founder is dead, unable to profit from the brand, the brand is owned by two people whom their grandfather(?) she tried to hijack the brand from, the designs are completely different from her vision, they have earnestly addressed how they do not support her political values.

And in recent times did Chanel do anything remotely as disgusting as pedophilia? Nope.
Fair enough. I still don’t see a problem with wearing the early era bags. I won’t purchase anything new but will continue to wear my oldies. I don’t see wearing an 05 Day bag as something that would even be associated with the current stock so don’t adhere to the theory that it would help perpetuate the brand.
 
So: keeping older Bal bags is corruptly keeping the brand popular, but you selling off your Gucci and Bal to TRR and thereby keeping them circulating in the marketplace (as you stated you will) is a higher, ethical stance against pedophilia? This logic is...badly broken.
You’re absolutely right. I actually had a talk with a friend about my intentions yesterday and she told me that I would just be indirectly perpetuating their brand.

Unfortunately by the time I went to fix my post to remove that portion, I wasn’t allowed to edit anymore. And I didn’t feel I was that important to let people know about my change in action?

So I’m currently thinking of ways to not contribute to the circulation of my bags, but not harming the environment by destroying them. My friend suggested disassembling the bags and using the pieces to repair any stuff I have. But I’m not sure about that either…. still thinking of more options.
 
On the heels of Bal controversy,...
Kanye West says he's selling Balenciaga, Adidas, and Gap hoodies for $20
  • He showed 100 cut-up hoodies from Balenciaga, Adidas, and Gap, which he will sell for $20, so the luxury products (re-branded) are accessible to all.
  • The clothes are left over from when the companies cut ties with Ye after his antisemitic comments.
Nicole Kidman is still supporting them:
 
The lawsuit is for the one picture of the Supreme Court case document referencing child porn.

The photos of toddlers holding bondage-cladded teddy bears surrounded by "heart/love" pillows were on their online site. Impossible the major stakeholders at Balenciaga did not approve the ad campaign.
@PurseUOut - And there are flying demons depicted on the wall behind one of the little girls holding a teddy bear bag, and occult moon symbols on the pink headboard of the bed she is standing upon. What kind of sick messaging is that? This Balenciaga ad goes indecently beyond anything I have ever seen in any other ad from a designer house on so very many levels. Way beyond. Promoting/supporting/wearing this brand condones the brand's overtly depraved messaging. What a terrible and uncomfortable position in which they have placed their customers, who have spent so much money on their items.
 
I think the teddies would have been controversial enough on their own. Why even involve children?

I am at a loss for words actually (not my usual problem) :facepalm:
And why reference a Supreme Court ruling on child se*ual exploitation? Now that folks are starting to see what Balenciaga has been doing, many are doing a deeper dive into other images - and it's getting even more disturbing. It's one thing to push the envelope with adults, but not with children.
 
I don't even know how to start this post. Maybe we should all ask, "Why isn't the celebrities talking about this?" They have an opinion about everything. Isn't child pedophilia big enough to be spoken against? If you have a child, and someone commits a crime against your child, either sexual abuse or anything pedophilia related, are you going to be quiet about it, waiting for the perpetrator to issue an apology? These celebrities are not speaking up because we know who owns them. Kim Kardashian has been quiet about this and she has children. She is one of Balenciaga's biggest supporters. There are large groups of elites who have been running child trafficking and child sexual abuse rings for years. Why now?? They have been able to get away with their symbolism for many years, but they got too comfortable knowing that people were blind to it. They are being bold about their symbols and were expecting people to get on the pedophilia bandwagon. But this time, it didn't work. People are waking up and what do they do? "Oops ... we apologize if this was offensive to you." OMG ... these companies have a lot of resources to work on their brands, from analysts to psychologists, to anything you can imagine that will work on specific themes to brainwash people and make them hooked on their products. We do not know because we are not in the know. All we know is that we are addicted to these brands and we sit here waiting for them to release a statement so they can redeem themselves and we go on with our "tea room" lives as if nothing happened. We need to wake up and stop allowing these elites to take advantage of young women, children or anyone that they can use to profit from. Balenciaga has been in this pdophilia business for many years. Who ever heard of Rachel Chandler?? She was a big attendee at Epstein Island. She has a model agency that would "recruit" children and under age girls to shoot for Balenciaga and other brands. Where did Rachel get these girls from? She had pictures of Epstein house cameras. If you go to ther agency IG, you can't comment on anything. They are trying to shut us down. We need to stop being complacent and stop giving these people our hard earned money. This is not about teddy bears and bondage clothing. Look at how the theme of child sexualization was perfectly aligned throughout the pictures. Open your eyes and stand for what is right
 
Also, where are the parents?
This. Did they know how the ad was going to turn out or was it a “your child will be in a fashion house campaign!”.

Personally I think they wanted to do something controversial so yea, they knew what they were doing because any press is free press that keeps them relevant. It blew up more in their faces then they originally thought it would.

The brand was already faltering imho, this just set the trash on fire. Whether they come out of it like a phoenix or stay dusted, remains to be seen.
 
This is not about being edgy or controversial! This is about the sexualization of children. Are our consciousness and ethics so seared that we are incapable of seeing the gravity of this? Do we really think a brand would expose itself to a child sexualization/pedophilia theme for the sake of being relevant or controversial? Think about the thought process that goes behind a plan to actually get court documents on child pornography and place behind a bag. Did you see the paintings of Michael Boressman that was placed behind the model on the desk? He promotes child violence. Guys, wake up
 
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