Very disappointing service at Hermes Manhasset

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That's awful. I'm sorry you've been consistently getting lousy service. I guess I have been lucky so far. Hopefully, if you feel like bothering, you will find an H store that can provide you with the service you deserve. :smile1:

Oh, and by the way asa... I did read your post and was going to pm you... but thanks so much for the reply. You do sound like a really pleasant (and courteous! :flowers:) person, and I definitely didn't mean to single you out in particular, it's just a sentiment I feel has been voiced around the board...

I don't know, maybe it's just me... I look like I'm homeless or something, shouldn't be touching the precious H! :rolleyes:
 
Oh, and by the way asa... I did read your post and was going to pm you... but thanks so much for the reply. You do sound like a really pleasant (and courteous! :flowers:) person, and I definitely didn't mean to single you out in particular, it's just a sentiment I feel has been voiced around the board...

I don't know, maybe it's just me... I look like I'm homeless or something, shouldn't be touching the precious H! :rolleyes:

I'm sure it's not how you look; it sounds like really bad luck. Do you have a friend who is happy with his/her SA that you could work with?

p.s. Believe me, I'm no saint...(otherwise, I'd be boring!) ;)
 
You are cool BlueGenes:tup: Now, give me my prize:supacool:j/k. Just don't take all the negative close to your heart and keep buying what you want anywhere you want. You don't ask them for a favour, don't you?
 
I've continued to follow this thread and just didn't post my thoughts b/c I kinda wince whenever the title is bumped to the top... but here's the thing, for me, anyway. I love Hermes products, to the point where I just don't feel interested in spending money on other things anymore. So no, (even though I do realize the above quote wasn't directed at me) I personally wouldn't buy from other brands. But it's just been so unhappy for me every time I walk into an Hermes store, even when the service turns out to be friendly, because I walk in with so much dread that I might encounter meanness and criticism. Just recently I wanted to return a gift my DH had purchased for me - and by policy the H boutique had to accept the return - and the entire time the SA and manager talked about me like I wasn't there, criticizing my taste and shopping habits (I hadn't mentioned that it was a gift from DH). I said nothing the entire time, because I hate confrontations and didn't think anything could be gained from interjecting, but I am never walking in there again. Why is it so awful for me to return something? I can return things anywhere else without a problem. I don't happen to think that color worked on me - why was it such a huge deal for me to exchange it with another color? I don't know, but the event left me simmering, and I just... I have enough stress in my life, and I don't need MORE stress when I go to get nice things for myself.

I started buying a lot from H.com, even though I'm smack dab in the middle of an area with THREE H boutiques, just to avoid unfriendly service. As has been pointed out, luxury shopping should be a pleasant experience. And yes, there are "other" stores, but when you've tried 3 stores and have had really poor experiences or heard about poor experiences from other people who've developed long-standing relationships with those stores, at some point you're just not quite as eager to keep searching for a good store, and yes, you start thinking of H as an unpleasant place to shop. Right now I have no hope of placing the SO that I dreamed of getting, because I'm just so frustrated with my boutique experience that I just can't bring myself to "build up" a relationship with a store or SA, and because I've heard of other SO false promises from my nearby stores and SAs. I'm just going to wait on eBay for my particular leather and color combo to come up. It'll probably take about the same amount of time as an SO, anyway, and won't give me the grief.

I try to be uber-polite to everyone wherever I go. As I said before, I tend towards NOT saying anything - I'm not super chatty, but I don't complain or demand, either. I feel like there's an undercurrent of assumption that customers who receive poor service somehow "deserve" it... that they came off as demanding or thinking they needed to be treated like the Queen of England just because they've purchased something previously at the store. I don't want to be treated like a Queen, and who knows, maybe I just "look" like I shouldn't be buying H products, but whatever. I don't like reading negative posts all the time, either, especially about my favorite brand, but part of me is RELIEVED that it's not just me (i.e., not because I in particular deserve to be treated this way, but other people have received the same treatment I have). And maybe, just maybe at some point, with enough support from dissatisfied customers, treatment at H stores will begin to change so that it WILL be a pleasant experience to shop there. Maybe H corporate will read these posts and care enough to do something; maybe the dissatisfied customers posting here will get together and write a joint letter... I don't know. I'm just saying that not all negativity is unconstructive, and maybe some of it is even worth listening to.

(Okay, that was a novel - if anyone actually read it all they deserve some kind of prize!! :p)

Gosh, I'm so sorry you've had such bad experiences at H. I know this may sound totally over the top but could you try having fun with this and see if a change in the way you approach this would make a difference. I realize that we are the customers and should not have to do this but....

What if you go to the store... feeling very confident... standing straight... holding your head up high with a big friendly smile on your face. Look the SA in the eye and tell her what you are looking for. Convey an air of confidence that you belong there and that you are knowledgable, etc. Interact with the SA as an equal.... I really think that how we present ourselves can make a difference in how we are treated ... at H and most places, too.

Indulge me a minute for an example. Usually at work I answer my phone in not the friendliest manner... The caller is usually someone selling something, so I am put off by the ringing phone interrupting me. And I'm usually not very friendly to callers... not mean or impolite ... just usually to the point.... very businesslike and obviously in a hurry to get off the call.

Sooo, I got a call the other day from a lady in Minnesota (why is it that everyone in MN seems to be soooo nice!) Anyway, she was just the sweetest lady ... She spoke so lovely and polite and was just a pleasure (even though she was trying to get me to look at her products). So I found myself being really nice, too! I have never been so darn nice!! I was majorly polite and nice!! I found myself being as nice to her as she was to me! I was amazed at myself!!:p

So anyway... not sure if any of this will help you, but I'd really love to see you have a pleasant shopping experience at H!!:heart:
 
awwww, thanks asa, aminamina and kalliegirl! you guys are so sweet! :heart: i love tPF!

kalliegirl, thanks for the advice. i'll definitely try that the next time i walk into the store... :yes: well, when i summon up the energy, guess. it would be sooooooo nice to find a "home" store where i can chat with the SA and one day place an SO.
 
I don't know, maybe it's just me... I look like I'm homeless or something, shouldn't be touching the precious H! :rolleyes:

OMG, why are you looking like homeless? Are you pushing a supermarket shopping cart in front of you with bottles and soda cans collected thru the trash receptacles on Madison Ave?
You go to H for a reason, and the reason is to shop, to buy something, to make a business transaction.
What makes you feel so inferior and undeserving? All luxury goods SA's are snobbish a little bit or more, but not that awful.
Or just dress more nicely than usual for your own conscience, so you feel yourself more dressed up. Take your best bag, nice shoes and you will experience a different feeling of yourself. Do not put evening gown, but dress as if you are going go to a very important meeting. You would see the difference.
 
OMG, why are you looking like homeless? Are you pushing a supermarket shopping cart in front of you with bottles and soda cans collected thru the trash receptacles on Madison Ave?
You go to H for a reason, and the reason is to shop, to buy something, to make a business transaction.
What makes you feel so inferior and undeserving? All luxury goods SA's are snobbish a little bit or more, but not that awful.
Or just dress more nicely than usual for your own conscience, so you feel yourself more dressed up. Take your best bag, nice shoes and you will experience a different feeling of yourself. Do not put evening gown, but dress as if you are going go to a very important meeting. You would see the difference.


LOL, I didn't mean that literally, like I actually dressed like I was homeless, haha... :nuts:

It's just the first time I walked into an Hermes store, I picked up some agendas to look at them, and the SA took them out of my hands, saying "They're just agendas" and to stop touching them. Then my mom and I started look at scarves, and the same SA took the scarves out of our hands (almost slapping my mom's hands away) and saying that these were reserved for buying customers. My mom was carrying an LV bag (maybe that's what made the SA hate us?) and I was carrying a Chloe paddington. We were more perplexed than furious at the time why she would treat us like that - honestly, it was so extreme, it's kind of the way deli owners shoo away homeless people wandering into their stores, like we should keep our grubby hands off their products - but no, Luna, trust me, we are clean, we're not head to toe in Oscar de la Renta but we don't really walk around in our pj's either... haha... and actually we had just come from Bottega Veneta and purchased a bag, so I don't know what the fuss was about.

and no, that's not happened since, but my mom and I joke about it these days, and say "we must look like we're homeless or something" - cause we just have NO idea why someone would treat us like that!
 
LOL, I didn't mean that literally, like I actually dressed like I was homeless, haha... :nuts:

It's just the first time I walked into an Hermes store, I picked up some agendas to look at them, and the SA took them out of my hands, saying "They're just agendas" and to stop touching them. Then my mom and I started look at scarves, and the same SA took the scarves out of our hands (almost slapping my mom's hands away) and saying that these were reserved for buying customers. My mom was carrying an LV bag (maybe that's what made the SA hate us?) and I was carrying a Chloe paddington. We were more perplexed than furious at the time why she would treat us like that - honestly, it was so extreme, it's kind of the way deli owners shoo away homeless people wandering into their stores, like we should keep our grubby hands off their products - but no, Luna, trust me, we are clean, we're not head to toe in Oscar de la Renta but we don't really walk around in our pj's either... haha... and actually we had just come from Bottega Veneta and purchased a bag, so I don't know what the fuss was about.

and no, that's not happened since, but my mom and I joke about it these days, and say "we must look like we're homeless or something" - cause we just have NO idea why someone would treat us like that!

OK, now I am understanding better what the problem may be. I think the issue was that you were handling the items without an SA's help. What I suggest is... to go in the store and "connect" with an SA and say that you are interested in seeing some agendas and some scarves. I would then let them direct you to the items you want to see and let the SA handle them first and show them to you.

Honestly, in a store like H I just don't feel right handling the products by myself without an SA with me. I let them take the lead to show me what I am interested in. For example, if I am trying on a bracelet, I let the SA put it on me and close the clasp. If it is a scarf, I let the SA either put it on me or take it out of the case and hand it to me.

I'm not sure that H is set up to just have people browsing on their own.

I hope this helps....
 
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BlueGenes - There are many wonderful SA's out there. Sometimes it's a matter of finding a good fit, or at least a good one who knows how to treat you well. Anyone in retail should know - never make assumptions! The nerve to treat you and your mom like that. That SA must be so unhappy in their own life to not even know any better as to how to act towards a potential customer. I feel sorry for them. But my heart goes out to you too!

Hope you find a great SA and store. They are out there!
 
OK, now I am understanding better what the problem may be. I think the issue was that you were handling the items without an SA's help. What I suggest is... to go in the store and "connect" with an SA and say that you are interested in seeing some agendas and some scarves. I would then let them direct you to the items you want to see and let the SA handle them first and show them to you.

Honestly, and maybe I'm not the norm, but in a store like H I just don't feel right handling the products by myself without an SA with me. I let them take the lead to show me what I am interested in.

I'm not sure that H is set up to just have people browsing on their own.

I hope this helps....

Kallie Girl - I forgot to add this is a very good point. If a SA does not realize or recognize a regular customer - they may be very nervous of people handlig the goods. Notice how they have keys to drawers, and even pull out the gloves when handling certain items.

Hermes does not usually have guards at the doors, unlike the standard policy with some high end jewellery stores.

Maybe they are being extra cautious. Albeit, perhaps not in a friendly way eh?

Just a thought! :heart:

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone of course. But I just thought of when I've been in clothing stores and customers pull items off the shelves and just dump everything on the counters or even the floor! I feel sorry for the poor SA's who have to pick up after these people. (Okay, I think it happened in THE GAP. But you get what I think I'm trying to say.)
 
Thanks, KallieGirl and MiaT! You might be right, KallieGirl... and actually, since then I haven't dared touch anything until someone comes by... though, I have to say, at subsequent visits to different H stores, I've seen people touch the scarves and examine the agendas without an SA reprimanding them... and what do you do if you've been standing around for 15 minutes by the scarf table without an SA helping you out? :shrugs:

but there are DEFINITELY nice SAs who will let me try everything out... and despite all the negative stories out there, I'm really really really thankful for everyone's stories of how great some SAs/SMs have been for them, because it makes me think I just need to find the right one :yes:
 
I've continued to follow this thread and just didn't post my thoughts b/c I kinda wince whenever the title is bumped to the top... but here's the thing, for me, anyway. I love Hermes products, to the point where I just don't feel interested in spending money on other things anymore. So no, (even though I do realize the above quote wasn't directed at me) I personally wouldn't buy from other brands. But it's just been so unhappy for me every time I walk into an Hermes store, even when the service turns out to be friendly, because I walk in with so much dread that I might encounter meanness and criticism.grief.

BlueGenes, I'm so sorry that your Hermes encounters have been so unpleasant, and I certainly didn't mean to make you feel worse, so if I did, please accept my apology. The fact that you're able to put the negative feelings aside and still enjoy your Hermes purchases, says a lot about you and your love of the brand.

I think KG and MiaT have some excellent suggestions, and here's another one you might try to build up your H. confidence. Do you have a friend who loves to shop (a friend who buys and loves H. as much as you do would be ideal)? If so, take that friend for morale support, or heck, take two or three. You know what they say - there's strength in numbers. Make a day of it and celebrate with a nice lunch afterwards. Carry your lovely Blue Jean Birkin and just sail in there with your head held high and "own" that store. Ask to see what you want to see, and let them take it from there. You have every right to be there, and don't you ever forget that. You're an established Hermes customer, and they certainly should recognize and appreciate that.

Walking in that door next time may be stressful, but I bet that as you build up your confidence, it will get easier and much more enjoyable. Good luck. We'll all be thinking good thoughts, and we're all right here if you need moral support.

P.S. The first time I went to Hermes, I changed my outfit three times before I thought I had it "right" enough for H. Now? I don't even give it a second thought. They just have to take me as I am that particular day.
 
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BlueGenes Wow what an experience! Even if you were unassisted I would hope someone could politely ask you to not touch the merchandise. I am sorry but if you every need a shopping partner or a courage partner, I could always go out of my way to come to NYC to go shopping with you! I know I am sacrificing alot (my wallets screams as I type this!) but your worth it!:graucho:
 
Thank you guys for your support - I really, really really do appreciate it... :blushing: I do want to reiterate that everything was subsequently smoothed over... yeah, the SA could have been a BIT nicer (I think her words were "This is where you stand, this is where I stand" - pointing us to move several feet away from the counter :rolleyes:) but whatever, it was awhile ago. It's clear from everyone else's stories, especially lilyhermes's wonderful, wonderful letter from the head of H himself, that this is not typical of H customer service. I'm just lucky like that :p. But I will DEFINITELY take everyone's advice, about going in with a positive/confident attitude, plus going in with friends.

Thanks so much for the responses :heart:. But I feel bad about hijacking this original thread... and if anyone has additional comments NOT pertaining to the original thread, but to my particular story, it'd be wonderful if you pm'd me... I just feel bad for digressing from this thread and also for bumping up this thread constantly... Manhasset does have its good moments :yes: so... I'd rather not this be the first thing everyone sees when they first get onto the H forum, esp. since the conversation kinda moved away from the original PO problem...
 
i am also a new yorker and shop at all these stores.
as i posted earlier manhasset can run hot and cold and i am not surprised that the special order wasn't placed. i had a similiar experience there having to do with a different issue. i tend to go there only if i am doing something else in manhasset and mostly for enamels. i haven't found them very knowledgeable re leathers except for the manager.
BlueGenes- please feel free to pm me if you want to discuss any of the local h.
i love the madison ave store but you can't compare it to bottega on 5th.
 
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